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Location: Wichita, Kansas | 61 Dodge, and since it looks to be a two door sedan, it'd be a small series, such as a Seneca. As to the where, no idea....
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Location: DFW, TX | What's with the cryptic posts and photos? Just tell your story and show off the car man!!
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well, I am not yet finished with the car. I can say that I have been viewing this web site for years as a guest. I have always loved the FL cars and, since I was a little kid looking through my dad's old magazines etc. been in LOVE with the '61 Dodges. (the handful of pics there are of them!) I do not really know any of you guys, but I think some will like and some won't. That's the beauty of this hobby/life. I don't want to come across as an A** right out of the gate but I would like to beat NEIL to the punch and let you all know the car has been repainted !!! The "PLAN" was to have the car completed by June however I am waiting on a certain wheel manufacturer to send me my wheels . . . Oh, and get the motor and trans in !!!! |
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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK) | Probably something to do with weight transfer when coming off the Line. Also, it just looks "COOL".
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Location: Big pimpin' | Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM
What is the advantage of a straight axle ?
That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM
What is the advantage of a straight axle ?
That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....
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Thanks for the smart-axx non-answer. Some guys around here try to share their knowledge and be helpful when others ask straight up questions. If you have done all this "skying the tires" like you mention, you are no doubt NASA certified and even more awesome than you let on. But I was just asking a simple question.
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While I may not get to it real soon, when I unpile the DeSoto and organize the finish strategy (probably this winter), I should have an extra 3-speed floor shifter - in case that is the route you are thinking of going. Somewhere in the pile I have the complete unit, right down to the floor hump and linkage.
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That is very nice of you. I may want to talk later once you dig that stuff out. I am putting a Borg-Warner T 85 in it. I have an original Hurst 3 speed shifter and linkage made for the T 85 so I'm hoping it falls together nicely. Im WAY behind schedule on this project but . . . I guess I can't complain too much. |
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Location: Big pimpin' | Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-17 7:53 PM
dukeboy - 2009-06-16 9:32 AM
Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM
What is the advantage of a straight axle ?
That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....
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Thanks for the smart-axx non-answer. Some guys around here try to share their knowledge and be helpful when others ask straight up questions. If you have done all this "skying the tires" like you mention, you are no doubt NASA certified and even more awesome than you let on. But I was just asking a simple question.
Somehow, I am betting there is some real science to why a guy would go to such lengths and if anyone would care to get into the nuts and bolts of it, I'd love to learn more. Thanks.
Lemme hit you with what you hit me with there Doc..."You really as high strung as you seem?" "You need to lighten up a bit guy"...
I put my two cents in, you didn't like it, moving on....
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Location: Lemoore CA | Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM
What is the advantage of a straight axle ?
I have wondered the same thing myself, for a fast car you want to distribute weight to the rear wheels for better traction on takeoff, correct? For maximum effect you want to avoid lifting the nose of the car, right or not? What about all the drag cars I see or have seen with the rear end jacked up and the front end low so that the car essentially sits down level on the rear when it takes off, what is the differance in these two styles? Are they for differen't types of racing, different theories or what? |
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Location: Parts Unknown | A huge problem with hot cars back in the day was there were no really good tires. The slicks/cheater slicks were better than street tires, but not by much.
So, the Ram Chargers found that raising the heighth of the car (center of gravity) and the motor up in the frame, this got more weight transfer to the rear of the car on launch. This worked well however, people started making CRAZY high (and dangerous) machines. NHRA put a limit of 24" from the crank to the ground. SO, raising the front of the car does the same thing, transferring weight to the rear on launch in an effort to gain some traction. As tire technology improved, the nose-up attitude disappeared into history. Also, there was this wind resistance theory . . . Blah, Blah, Blah . . . |
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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK) | In both cases, high rear/low front, or straight axle/high front, the idea is the same, weight transfer when the clutch is dropped and the torque hits the rearend.
The low nose comes up as the weight is 'transferred' by the lifting action of the rearwheels gripping the surface. Watch the Sunday NHRA Draag Races on the tube. The last thing the tire man does is to check the wheelie bar's distance from the surface. The torque will still lift the front wheeels of those Top Fuel Dragsters, even with thier 20+ foot length. (I'm gonna go take my nap now, it's been a long day for an old man)
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Location: Lemoore CA | As far as I can tell, a wheelie is produced when the rear wheels are not allowed to turn fast enough to be a sufficient outlet for tourque, because of traction, but there is enough tourque produced to lift the weight of the car. An example (don't try it at home) would be to place the chuck of a powerful hand drill in a vice so that it was not allowed to turn, and then try to hold the drill down while applying power. Depending on how strong the drill motor is and how strong you are, the body of the drill will want to spin (and might do it) instead of the chuck.
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It's either that or you break s**t....
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | dukeboy - 2009-06-20 1:16 AM
Now you got it MO............
It's either that or you break s**t....
I used to think that, but I have reason to question it. I like my wierd theory better-- I am bored, just trying to start an argument ..........................MO |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Getting all this new-found horse-power to the ground was a problem due to the limitations of tires in the late fifties. Troy Simonsen joined Chrysler in 1958 and the Ramchargers shortly there-after. He relates how they solved the problem of traction.
"With the High and Mighty, we sat down and thought about the vehicle dynamics of drag racing. The problem was getting all the traction you can. We wanted the car high, to get weight shift. We had a unique suspension that was intended to transfer the weight equally to both the rear wheels so that the torque of the driveshaft and the tendency to lift the right wheel was offset.That car," Simonsen remembers, "was tall enough that you could crawl under it on your hands and knees, almost."
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Location: bishop, ca | What category or car-class would this resto-mod-rod compete in, at the Nats, Yikey?
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Location: DFW, TX | Holy crap... straight axle '61 Dodge!
I'm late to the discussion I guess, but wheelies are an effective yet inefficient way to increase traction. In a perfect scenario, 100% of the vehicle weight would be distributed to the drive wheels at the rear to maximize traction, 0% of the weight would be on the fronts. This is exactly what happens in a wheelie, so that is good. The downside is that the energy used to lift the front wheels UP is energy you aren't using to go forward down the track! For a perfect example of 100/0 weight distribution and little or no wheelstand, look at modern Pro Stock cars. Pinion angle (the angle of the rear axle's pinion gear with level ground) is important too. You can use a severe angle to give a downward thrust to the engine's torque, which plants the tires more firmly than just the weight of the vehicle. However, too severe an angle delivers power inefficiently after the vehicle is in motion and wheelspin is no longer a concern. |
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | WHAMPA-WHAMPA!! That thing gonna have fenderwell headers?It really should.
Back to my theory that a wheelie is produced when the rear axel is accelerating quicke4r than the front axel.. If the front end does not lift, then the back axle tries to pass going around the side = fishtail. You remember when they used to drag race four wheel drive cars? I think Olds Toronado with driven front and rear axles. They did not try to wheelie or fishtail cause the front was accelerating as fast as the rear........................MO |
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Location: Big pimpin' | I gotta hand it to 'ya B/G 61, NOT a big fan of the '61 Dodges, but that thing is gonna turn some heads when done!!! VERY well executed IMO....I can see that thing with a fat BB and fenderwell hedders, maybe a roots blower or at least a tunnel ram, with the biggest solid roller cam you can safely get in it and a 4 gear....YEAH!!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | MOPAR-TO-YA - 2009-07-23 1:35 AM
WHAMPA-WHAMPA!! That thing gonna have fenderwell headers?It really should.
That will be ANOTHER thing to delay this - I'm not sure how I will make them. I fear the Rams will get in the way . . . |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I want to have the collectors "dump" behind the front wheel - hopefully I can get them to that point . . . I'm going for this "look" to get the headers under the rams . . . sorry for the blurry pic, it's all I got . . . This is supposed to be the Ramchargers '61 motor . . . Looks like a '62 and later B-body firewall to me ???
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well, gettin ready for the Nats this weekend - goin without the car still not done (or close) - I think I have the steering figured out . . . ? Gonna fab those do-hickey thingy's on the top of the drums to accept the ORIGINAL steering components . . . Wish me luck . . .
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Location: bishop, ca | Yikey, have you cut out the inner fenders, to allow not only for the phsical-location of the ram-carbs, but also
to allow access for the spark plugs to be changed (after the WHEELS are removed, of course)?
There's a thread, on the GEN DISC board, that shows the appearance of the necessary inner fender cut out areas.
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Location: Parts Unknown | No cuttin needed - the rams will fit just fine - I have the rams in my pioneer and there is plenty of room - as far as the plugs are concerned, they can be had from underneath the car and as long as the motor is cold, it can be done - I will most likely get rid of the inner fenders eventually once I make the fenderwell headers . . . |
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Location: bishop, ca | And, the removed intact inner fenders are probably worth a couple bucks, too.
No inner fenders, huh?
But, won't the car be terribly loud, without inner fenders?
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well, the front end is FINALLY finished . . . I put about 60 miles on it today with no issues . . . NOW the motor and trans gotta go in - sounds simple enough . . . . . . The stock steering components worked well with the "home-made" bars off of the drums . . .
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, I am impressed.
Yikey, you should change your nom-de-FWDLK to:..... "Rammie Muchacho" !
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Location: bishop, ca | When you're done, it would be neat to get your car together with that black 61 PLY rammie which one of our
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2009-08-20 5:39 PM When you're done, it would be neat to get your car together with that black 61 PLY rammie which one of our members created a couple years ago. [insert Thread Reference here]. Yea, that 61 Plymouth is NICE ! I don't have any of that high dollar, high tech stuff though - just made it like I woulda in '61 (prob '62-'64 when I could have got one and built it for WAY CHEAP !!!!! I really like the effort that went into that Plymouth - naturally I would crank the bars up on the front, but that sure is one nice '61 Savoy . . .
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Location: Parts Unknown | dukeboy - 2009-08-20 10:23 PM
NO MORE Torsion bars...Headers should be a BREEZE! That thing is lookin' SWEET!!! I LOVE IT!
Thanks - Still feels like it has a LONG way to go . . . It was supposed to be done in June - I actually have been "building" this car since I was just a little Muchacho . . . DON'T LAUGH (remember I was just a kid when I made this pic) here is the start of it all . . .
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On that black rammie's thread, I posted that I thought that the car would look 'badder' with having only the whites being put
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Location: Parts Unknown | O.K. - coming soon as in we're lookin at next year for the finished project I hate how life gets in the way of living ANYWAY, the project continues in my mind - Do I mount the tank on a bracket off of the bumper or do I hack up the grill and set it inside (well, half in and half out) I was 99% sure I was gonna hack up the grill, but I put the tank up to the grill and I might have to notch the bumper to get it like it was in my mind . . .
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Location: bishop, ca | Two gallons won't get ya much farther, than a couple trips down the strip, but, for weight-transfer purposes,
why install that mini tank at all when there's a S-Load of available fuel-weight, sitting there, behind the rear axle,
and just in front of the rear bumper????
I mean: this car IS a POSER, right?
And, too slow, for a roll bar (altho, it just might NEED one, anyway)---OOPS; there it is, I see it, there,
ready-to-install!
Safety FIRST!
(I thought that roll bars were only required for 11-second cars).
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Location: Parts Unknown | Not a full blown race car, but not a poser either - IT WILL SEE SOME 1320 ft ACTION - as far as "fast" I dunno - we shall see - If I thought it was gonna be real fast, I would not use a bolt in roll bar for sure - I do like the "look" (poser I guess ) of the Moon tank - gots me a Stewart-Warner tach too - It's actually "dated" from '61 !!!! |
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, you answered your own question, about possibly cutting-up that beautiful grille, or KNOT!
If there's room for it, it would look cute sitting there, behind the grille.
You gonna go install one of them truck-bus batteries, in the trunk? I would.
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Location: DFW, TX | d500neil - 2009-09-30 6:19 PM
I mean: this car IS a POSER, right?
And, too slow, for a roll bar (altho, it just might NEED one, anyway)---OOPS; there it is, I see it, there,
ready-to-install!
Safety FIRST!
LOL Neil. I don't think any self-respecting B/RB-engined car could be called slow.
Car is making good progress. I gotta say it may be a little too high up front, Gas-class rules stated the centerline of the crankshaft should be no more than 24" off the ground. Cool looking car! Keep up the work- |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 57burb - 2009-09-30 10:10 PM
Car is making good progress. I gotta say it may be a little too high up front, Gas-class rules stated the centerline of the crankshaft should be no more than 24" off the ground. Cool looking car! Keep up the work-
Yea, it's gonna be close. I think the front will drop some once the B/block goes in. (still has the 6 in the pic) The front tires are 27.5" in diameter for a visual ref. Actually the "gasser classes" changed so much from the beginning, I will be "misrepresenting" with the B/gas thing unless we all jump in a time travel machine back to 1961 . . . The classes were as follows for '61 -
A/G - 0 to 8.99 pounds per cubic inch
B/G - 9.00 to 10.99 pounds per cubic inch
C/G - 11.00 to 12.99 pounds per cubic inch
D/G - 13.00 to 13.99 pounds per cubic inch
E/G - 14.00 or more pounds per cubic inch
For that matter, depending on the ACTUAL weight of the car, I may STILL be "misrepresenting" . . .
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Location: DFW, TX | B/G 61 - 2009-10-01 5:26 PM
Yea, it's gonna be close. I think the front will drop some once the B/block goes in. (still has the 6 in the pic) The front tires are 27.5" in diameter for a visual ref. Actually the "gasser classes" changed so much from the beginning, I will be "misrepresenting" with the B/gas thing unless we all jump in a time travel machine back to 1961 . . . The classes were as follows for '61 -
A/G - 0 to 8.99 pounds per cubic inch
B/G - 9.00 to 10.99 pounds per cubic inch
C/G - 11.00 to 12.99 pounds per cubic inch
D/G - 13.00 to 13.99 pounds per cubic inch
E/G - 14.00 or more pounds per cubic inch
For that matter, depending on the ACTUAL weight of the car, I may STILL be "misrepresenting" . . .
:stressed:
I figured with a username like "B/G 61" that you would be on top of the game!
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Location: Big pimpin' | B/G, You runnin' a straight gear in that thing? If so, that will be THE car to watch at the local drags..You got me thinkin' bout a sertain '57 Ply. Savoy 2dr sedan now...Hmmm, Big Block, Straight axle, big and littles, Lots a HP, 4 gear, and a Dana 60...Hmmmmm..... |
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Location: Parts Unknown | lawrence - 2009-10-01 9:21 PM
Wow that Dodge looks tough!!
I'll bet you get some of this..."Is that an Impala" :laugh:
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Location: Parts Unknown | dukeboy - 2009-10-01 10:10 PM
B/G, You runnin' a straight gear in that thing? If so, that will be THE car to watch at the local drags..You got me thinkin' bout a sertain '57 Ply. Savoy 2dr sedan now...Hmmm, Big Block, Straight axle, big and littles, Lots a HP, 4 gear, and a Dana 60...Hmmmmm.....
Yes sir !!! If you don't have a clutch, you don't have much !!! Anyone have any experience with a Borg-Warner T-85 3 speed is MORE than welcome to chime in . . . |
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | B/G 61 - 2009-10-02 4:46 PM
lawrence - 2009-10-01 9:21 PM
Wow that Dodge looks tough!!
I'll bet you get some of this..."Is that an Impala" :laugh:
People don't have a clue what this car is or where it came from (most ) :laugh: Take all your name-plates off and have fun challenging people to tell you what kind of american car it is and what year. My Chrysler has only one small name over by the right side of the dash..........................MO |
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Location: lakeview, ny 14085 | holy cow batman check 61 dodge seneca in members rides, we got the same car..!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | dukjupiter - 2009-10-04 9:20 PM
holy cow batman check 61 dodge seneca in members rides, we got the same car..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate to admit it , although we have the same make and model, your car is nicer !!!! I keep asking you to post some pics of that BEAUTIFUL interior so, now I'm TELLING you - POST SOME PIC'S ! ! ! ! "We" have to show these guys and gals that these '61 Dodges are "good-lookin" cars ALL the '61 Dodge owners agree with that, right people ??? |
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Location: Parts Unknown | HELP ! ! ! The motor and trans are out of my Seneca and the Long Ram is out of the Pioneer . . . What I need now is the engine frame mounts (SMITTY can/will get me some motor mounts once I send him my old ones) but the welded in brackets that they bolt to is what I need to find now. Anybody have a cross member thingy that I can buy ???? Or does anyone have one they want to hack the brackets off of ??? ALSO, I need a bell housing that will bolt up to a 383 low deck motor and a Borg-Warner T85 3 speed trans . . . That's pretty much it . . . FOR NOW Here are some bad cell phone pics I took today . . .
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Location: lakeview, ny 14085 | don't know if you can see this, came with my 61 seneca.
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Location: Parts Unknown | WHOO ! ! ! PLEASE tell me you can make that pic BIGGER !!!??? What is the story on that pic ??? also, what other treasures came with that AWESOME '61 ???? |
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | You still need a subframe? If so PM me
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Location: bishop, ca | WhatsUP with the front/rear wheel displacement, on that 4x4 '61 ????
Maybe it's turning a corner, but, the car body is seen in profile---4-wheel steering?
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Location: Parts Unknown | The front tires are slightly turned and don't forget, the bars are cranked UP ! ! ! (and the front end is not aligned because of it ) |
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Just keep those pic´s coming, heck this will help me thruogh the winter:) |
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Location: bishop, ca | WHAT winter; over here, I think that we had our winter weather sometime in the middle of last week.
(Does 'that' help ya, any???)--Shirt sleeves and sun burn city, around here.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well, ANY HELP ANYBODY WANTS TO GIVE - FEEL FREE ! ! ! ! I may have a lead on the subframe with the big block mounting "pads" I have nothing as far as getting a bellhousing . . . Also, anybody out there want to buy my Pioneer ? It's an actual D500 car (361 4bbl) NO MOTOR and it seems to have its share of body work - I have two great front fenders for it. PM me if you want more details.
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Location: Fredrikstad, Norway. (Europe) | These motor mount "pads" are not to hard to make B/G 61. And they are the same on all '60-'61 and some '62 MOPAR uni-body semi-frame models. Especially the "bolt on" frames. I have made several of them. Some for myself, and some for friends. I sure like the Pioneer tho'. Good Luck.
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Location: lakeview, ny 14085 | sorry thats is big as i can put on here, i'll try to send to your email. i got know info on the picture. when i bought the seneca the guy had some pictures of it before it was painted so i asked him if he would email me them when i was there to pick up the car (he wanted to keep his originals) so he emailed 4 pics of the seneca and that picture of this 61 gasser, but no info nothing. tell me more about the pioneer like how much? |
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Location: bishop, ca | Yikey, does your Pioneer have the 61 D500 emblem on it, and/or do you have its Broadcast Sheet or IBM card copy from
the Historical Society?
What do you know about its history?
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2009-11-09 1:18 AM
Yikey, does your Pioneer have the 61 D500 emblem on it, and/or do you have its Broadcast Sheet or IBM card copy from the Historical Society?
What do you know about its history?
No and Yes, Yes and NOTHING . . . When I first got the car, I thought that it was an original 383 4bbl car, of which it would be extreamly rare (like 1 of less than 5 or somethin) I just like Doc, I was under the impression only the "Ram" cars had the emblem - I still think this. The car I have (for sale; Pioneer) did NOT have a D500 emblem on it. There was and is evidence of body-work throghout the car but NO signs of the holes patched for the emblem. I have an emblem (D500) on there now that I picked up a few years ago - I have the info from the Historical Society that shows this car IS A D500, 361 4bbl car (from the factory) - The emblem will go with the car and I will let the new owner decide if it will stay on the car or not - One could always sell it and put the $600 or so towards sheet metal. I will post more pics later of the fenders I have that go with the car. I also posted this in "cars for sale" here
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Location: bishop, ca | Funny you should mention "$600.00", as that is what a List member, here, --ok: $610.00---paid for a 61 D500 emblem
very recently, unless he bought it for you.
So, $600.00 IS a very fair figure/price for a NOS 61 D500 emblem!
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Location: bishop, ca | Brent, the 361/4-bbl information is available in the historical, and factory, literature; but, that info is what THIS website's
existence is all about.
Interesting theory, about only the Rammies having D500 emblems on them....that's a problem that results from having
only a very limited 'population' to survey.
Automotive anthropology!
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Location: Parts Unknown | I got my emblem years ago - but I do watch Ebay for them . . . ANYWAY, I will be posting pics and what-not over on the "cars for sale" thread on this forum . . . CHECK IT OUT ! ! ! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well living here in "Parts Unknown" aka SNOWVILLE is becoming tiresome and my guess is by June all the snow should melt Although today seemed a little warmer due to the fact that Mike M and I worked out a deal for the bellhousing I have been needing (thanks again Mike) - I would also like to add that the bellhousing was professionally packed and arrived safe and sound (thanks again, again Mike)
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Location: Parts Unknown | Discoquik - 2010-02-26 11:10 AM
Your Truck use to be in our stable. We brought it back from WA if I remember correctly. We have 3 61 Plymouths and a 61 Imperial 2 door now. Are you in Ohio too?
Yes I am, but shhh I think I have some people thinking there is a place called "parts unknown"
Were you the one who cut the slots out of the bed on each side ??? I was told it came from Oregon . . . I love that truck but its goin for sale IF the snow ever melts !!!!! (runnin out of money ) |
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Location: Parts Unknown | O.K. - Looks like I'll finish this thing up in the next couple of years -
I set ANOTHER due date of June 1st . . . we shall see . . .
I got my fire-wall heater delete block-off today still lookin for the
dash block-off (PLEASE keep an eye out for one )
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Location: bishop, ca | Mike, do you have the smaller secondary heater-delete panels, too?
They're more difficult to find, than even the large block-off plate that you now appear to have.
'You' can see part of them, in the 'Stripper Windsor' thread, on this message board.
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Location: Parts Unknown | The other block-off on the firewall(1) should be a circle on a '61 Dodge . . . I will get
something fabbed up (dare I say it shouldn't be that hard ) I'm gonna have
to get the one pictured fixed a little - rust has kinda run havok with the metal on the
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Location: Parts Unknown | B/G 61 - 2010-04-14 5:57 PM
I'm gonna have to get the one pictured fixed a little - rust has kinda run havok with the metal on the
bottom lip - two rust holes and I'm sure once it gets media blasted, they will get bigger
Well, I was right holes, holes and more holes !!!! This thing was worse than I thought -
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Location: Parts Unknown | This should do it . . . When it's in the car, it shouldn't be noticable . . .
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Location: Parts Unknown | O.K. - Workin on this heater delete plate is fun, but I'd like to be DRIVING this
stupid thing ANYWAY, I used Por-15 on the back because of the mass
amounts of rust there. I used primer (gray and then black) on the front and will
gloss black the front tomorrow . . . I am going to visit the rod shop that is going
to slap the engine and trans together tomorrow as well. I sent in my registration
for the Mopar Nats (Aug.) so . . . We shall see . . .
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Location: Parts Unknown | O.K. - The fire-wall block off plate came out decent - I do not have the small round plate
to block off the blower motor so if anyone wants to give me one I'll take it That actually
brings up the question of was there a diff blower motor or diff location for it in a heater delete
car ? They did have an "off" and "cool" button to kinda have a defrost type thing goin on if
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I got the battery today - I hope to have the motor mounts this week so the process of setting up the motor/trans/rear
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Location: bishop, ca | Mike, I think that the "Off" & "Kool" control was probably just a shunt to allow outside air to enter
the car via the cowl vent, or not.
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Location: Oley, PA | Yeah I had a 61 Belvedere with no heater and that is correct, no blower either. Very inconvenient when the windshield got foggy.
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O.K. - No good news (as usual . . . like for the last um-teen years !!!! ) The rod/resto shop
that rebuilt my engine, put my car in thier latest ad - prob to calm me down cuz I'm not driving the
stupid thing - ANYWAY, gotta lot of work to get done before the end of the year . . . Time goes by
too fast !!!
Goin to the MoPar Nats - If you see the coolest lookin '65 Coronet 500, stop by and say hi
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OK - Nothin 'BIG' to report - this pile of steel is gonna be my battery hold down for the trunk . . .
Warning: bad cell phone pics to follow . . .
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Well, its not like the ones a person could spend a billion dollars on, but it'll do - it was made outta scrap - everything
but the washers and nuts - just copied the real deal
Hopefully by tomorrow I'll have pics to show of the cars "stance" . . .
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Location: bishop, ca | Function-over-Form, but didn't Mike say that he copied an original tray, to create this guy?
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | d500neil - 2010-09-07 7:24 PM
Function-over-Form, but didn't Mike say that he copied an original tray, to create this guy?
Well in some forms, those battery trays can be made of special super dooper polymer and double polished certain grade of stainless steel . with a acid proof non leak top and vented into a container to not rust up the factory overspray. But bottom line is, it functions as a battery hold down tray. ................MO |
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Location: bishop, ca | 10-4, but I think that Mike is trying to effect the appearance of an era-correct and/or a MoPar-Correct early-
60's dragster, so, he has copied the appearance of a correct-style battery tray, here.
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Yea, they sells repro's for BIG BUCKS (my opinion) so I went with the "home-made" job . . .
Given the size and way the battery is, I figured no sense re-inventing the wheel so I made a copy
of what works . . .
Here is what some one with money can pay . . .
Battery Tray -Trunkmount (1/4" Steel Plate Rubber Coated).......................$95.00
Battery Tray Insert - Trunkmount (White Plastic).........................................$40.00
Battery Top Holddown (Rubber Coated)& J Bolts w/nuts - Trunkmount.....$120.00
AND YES THAT ADDS UP TO $255.00 ! ! ! ! !
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O.K. it's almost there . . . as far as ride height - I have a few ideas which have since been thrown out the window !!!
I am leaning toward making it semi-adjustable - prob the height it is at in the pic will be the highest "setting" and I'm
hoping to have 2 more "settings" wich will be incrementally lower . . . Gotta go to the drawing board some more . . .
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and/or rear end and/or anything else (as I "adjust" between the three) ??? Also, I am thinking of using some
kind of "home-made" Cal-Trac type set up - prob just a bar welded to the axle housing to the frame (above the springs) . . .
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Well, we shall see what she looks like with the engine and trans in. For now without the drivetrain she sits like this . . .
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I'd love to give an update. Problem is, there is nothing new to
post about the car. My dad has been in a pretty good fight with
Leukemia. Then there is my kids takin up a good chunk of my
time (2 yrs and 1 yr old - and I'm lovin every second of it)
Oh, and there's that little issue of money - like I don't have any !!!
I plan on gettin the transmission down to the shop in the next few weeks
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | WOW ! I have wondered about you for quite some time. Glad to see you are back on the project...Maybe this June?
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | you've been missed Muchacho . just thinkin about ya yesterday and about every time i see a gasser -------------------------------------later |
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | B/G 61 - 2015-02-05 3:08 PM
Thanks guys - I'm realistically expecting this thing to be done before the snow melts.
I still have a hard (and not so intelligent) head and I'm runnin a T-85. I thought that was what you were using Borg-Warner T85.. There were several of those speced for different applications. Can you tell me what yours came from? .................................MO
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Location: Parts Unknown | MOPAR-TO-YA - 2015-02-05 8:35 PM
B/G 61 - 2015-02-05 3:08 PM
Thanks guys - I'm realistically expecting this thing to be done before the snow melts.
I still have a hard (and not so intelligent) head and I'm runnin a T-85. I thought that was what you were using Borg-Warner T85.. There were several of those speced for different applications. Can you tell me what yours came from? .................................MO
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=32479&...
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | B/G 61 - 2015-02-05 9:54 PM
MOPAR-TO-YA - 2015-02-05 8:35 PM
B/G 61 - 2015-02-05 3:08 PM
Thanks guys - I'm realistically expecting this thing to be done before the snow melts.
I still have a hard (and not so intelligent) head and I'm runnin a T-85. I thought that was what you were using Borg-Warner T85.. There were several of those speced for different applications. Can you tell me what yours came from? .................................MO
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=32479&...
It's a MoPar specific T-85 - still crazy to me that they (Borg-Warner ) made so many different (model/make specific ) transmissions...
Thanks for the link, that brought me up to speed. Just a couple weeks ago, I had reason to research Warner T-85, and found that indeed BW had several versions of that tranny and different tail shaft housings. Looks like you have what you were looking for. Reason for my research? I found a Max Wedge T-85 with the original factory Hurst shifter. This tranny had been lost for nearly 50 years! I knew about it since 1963 when a local guy here ordered a new 63 Ply with Max Wedge and never titled it--- first thing was to make a late modle stock car out of it. I have the full story posted somewhere here on the forums.
I could have hooked the guy that owns it, as he had no idea what is was other than having a Mopar input shaft. He had bought it for cheap and would sell to me for a little profit. He is a Mopar guy, and I don't operate that way.
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BTW, the engine pictured is for sale. It's a 1961 383. Carbs, air cleaners and linkage I'm keeping for the engine that's going in the gasser. Long rams and block-offs go with the rebuilt '61 383. Make offer if you are serious... Located in North East Ohio... |
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| that my friend is COOL. why the long rams, did u ever consider the max wedge motors that bob mosher builds , these an awesome utube video, 63 dodge 330 black with like a 500 cub max wedge, idling with open headers check it out , if u ever wanna sell that 61 - the motor , send me a pm again very cool car |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | man that is crazy kool . never dreamed you were along that far . will it be street ohio legal -------------------------------------------------later |
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I love Moshers work - a true artist. I went with the short (long) rams cuz many, many, many years ago when I first built this in my head, that's what I wanted. Thank you for the kind words 196061savoy- I'll send that PM, hopefully we can work something out...
Chuck my friend, I HOPE it's street legal. I have a title and historical plate for it so I won't have to get it inspected. Still haven't fired it up yet to see what the baffles at the end of the headers will do- that's the only exhaust on the car. All the lights work as well as the wipers (not that I'll be taking it out in the rain with the slicks and all) so, we shall see if Johnny Law harasses me or not !!!
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Location: Perth Australia | I recon if you opened the garage door and johnny law saw it they would hassle you about it here
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Steve, I have thought about lettering and have (what I think is) a great idea. Don't have the money to get vinyl wrap stuff right now, but prolly someday...
Chuck I got the store bought ones- they came with extra stainless padding (which I'm not using at first, maybe never) and that's what made me go with the manufactured ones. My first thought when I opened the box was, why didn't I think of this ! Very simple and the dude that manufactures and sells them is probably on a beach somewhere...
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | JMO. but with the theme you have going, I don't think I would do a wrap. The places that do custom vinyl lettering can come up with really cool lettering styles, or you can provide them with a style that you like. They can show you how they will look before actually making them. And they are easy to put on and very affordable.............................MO |
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Location: bishop, ca | Howabout naming it "(A) Ghost of a Chance"?
"Ghostly"?
Yeah: "Ghostly" !
"(The) Friendly Ghost"
"The Gone Ghost"
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Yeah, the vinyl lettering would be the way I'd go. Just didn't do a good job describing it. I had no idea it wasn't that expensive - I'll look into it for sure. I will be satisfied with driving it as is for now. It came together and made it for the show this weekend. I'll post some pics... |
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Well, the best thing about this finally being finished is not this show, but the fact that once the weather cooperates, ima drive this pig !!!
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It was pretty cool to see people's reactions - not too many folks even knew what kind of car this was. I wasn't at the display much, but whenever I would stop by, I was told even "MoPar" guys didn't know Chrysler made a car like that (guess it is opposite end of the Cuda spectrum) (it also tells me there's not too many TRUE MoPar guys!!!)
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Went to the shop today (Seme and Sons, Euclid Ohio - awesome guys) to hear it run, and I was met with the finished drawing (I had to leave the show early) and a fourth place in my class (had to leave the show early)
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Congratulations, B/G 61!
That's a great looking car!
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| now that's a trophy, that's a keeper, very cool and u deserve it, u should have gotten 1st place |
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Well, it's home. I missed the summer but hope to get some riding in this fall. Seems like something always goes a different direction than my plans, but I really can't complain. The old T85 is gonna be a learning experience for sure. Non-sync first gear, an engine that wants to die out (dash pot works, but I'm missing some vacuum from the cam) will provide for some entertainment for sure. Not to mention open headers on the streets. Should be fun...
Said goodbye to my truck. 1960 D100. Lots of fun, but time to let it go...
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Still haven't taken it to the track yet (no seat belts/harness) but it's doing fine around town ! No tickets yet for noise or anything !!!
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What engine mounts did you use?....I might of missed what you used reading through the thread.....as I have a factory set of 1961 D500 "HP" engine mounts I'm thinking of selling if your interested...I pulled them off a 1961 D500 police car...and the police car did have the D500 badge on the rear..i have a 1961 Dodge parts catalog with the part #'s.........i'll go see if the car is still there and take a photo of it...the badge is gone but the outlines are still there....I pulled and kept the VIN and Data tag off the car...its laying in a wash here in AZ.....I got the torsion bars and 12" brakes off it too....but have since sold them |
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After putting way too much effort into posting pics here, I finally can post that the mounts are home made and lookie here; PICTURES !!!
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