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Location: Adelaide Australia | hello, im after as many pictures as possible of '61 Plymouth suburbans (sportsman, custom and deluxe models). so if you have one or just have a picture saved to your computer of one, please post it here! id like to see the different colour combos, interior styles, etc. because im trying to decide whether to buy the one i have found or not... if you could help me out it would be fabulous! thanks |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Hi Herman - I don't have any pictures, but check this thread - there could be some there http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6558&p...
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Hello....Here are some pics of my '61 wagon..........
BTW Buy It! Let me know if you have any questions. I would be more than happy to help out whenever I can!
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Location: Adelaide Australia | thanks, the deals done! my daughter is now the proud owner of a 1961 plymouth deluxe wagon! she's wanted one for ages, and now here first car is her dream car! it hasnt left the states yet, but hopefully it will be on its way to australia soon. she wants to paint it maize yellow with an alpine white roof. your wagons colour combo looks great, is it robin egg blue? thanks for the kind words, and as soon as it arrives i'll get her to download some photos on to the website. cheers |
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what it would look like in maize yellow with an alpine white roof.... hope you dont mind i gave your wagon a digital colour change. |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | whoops ill try that again.... [IMG]http://i26.tinypic.com/2l8g0hf.jpg[/IMG] |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | ok, well that didnt work..... here it should show up now..... |
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Very cool! I have an ad for a 61 suburban wagon that is that color combo. I'll try to scan it in for you or locate it out here on the internet.... |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | is it the one with all the cows surrounding it? if so, my daughter has it hanging on her wall, to keep her motivated and on focus, lol. so you reakon the colour combo would look ok, the car has silver and black interior/ trim. |
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Yup. thats the ad. I think it would look great, especially with that interior color. Please send/post pics as soon as you can! I have never seen a 61 in real life, that color let alone a wagon. |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | it may be a while.... it is still over in the states and then it has to have paint and panel done when it arrives.... here is a pic of a '61 i found in scandinavia in the maize yellow duco.... i think it looks fabulous! adriana
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Location: Adelaide Australia | rob, here are a few more wagon pics thought you might be interested to see, adriana
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Location: Adelaide Australia | rob, here are a few more wagon pics thought you might be interested to see, adriana
the black deluxe is the one thats in New Zealand.
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Location: Maryland | Keep 'em commin'!
The pic: (1961-Plymouth-Fury-Sport-Suburban-Wagon-robin-egg-blue-A-640.jpg) is actually an old pic of my car! I know of many of these wagons and have been talking to all of these folks! Very cool crowd no doubt!
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Yeah, I talked to the guy. I think his name is Mike. Cool dude. I believe the car you are talking about was a "Salmon" colored car? |
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But that is my car! Since it was never driven in the winter, it pretty much looks just like that today. But as I noted in my email to you, the air force blue is not the original color. I was back in Ohio this weekend but had no time to even lift the garage door to take a peek at it.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hello all. sorry dad lost his password and we couldnt log back on! swept57, i got that pic of a website some guy is trying to locate the car. i'l try and find the website again and send you a link to it. the car looks nice and straight! im still interested in it, when you have the photos and info! as for the salmon wagon, is this the car? its gorgeous! after looking at the french wagon, maybe my wagon isnt that bad after all! i love it anyway and i will start work on it as soon as it arrives! keep the wagon pics coming! adriana
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Location: Adelaide Australia | thanks for your contribution fireflite60! nice looking wagon! you dont know how much it sold for do you? did you ever see this car in real life? was the car red or more of a deep red? my wagon is red (but faded) so im not sure what colour to paint it. i like the red of the 2door wagon though! thanks so much! adriana |
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Location: Finland | Mr Fins - 2008-04-21 3:04 PM thanks for your contribution fireflite60! nice looking wagon! you dont know how much it sold for do you? did you ever see this car in real life? was the car red or more of a deep red? my wagon is red (but faded) so im not sure what colour to paint it. i like the red of the 2door wagon though! thanks so much! adriana Picture was taken 1984 so I don`t have any clue how much it sold for. Same problem with the colour... Pictures are scanned from paper pictures so true colour is very difficult to see. Here is another one from the same wagon. 
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I am so glad to see wagons finally getting the positive attention they deserve. Three cheers for Wagon Fever ! 
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Location: Adelaide Australia | thanks doctordesoto! i feel a little better now. im importing a '61 plymouth wagon to australia, and i have never seen a '61 plymouth in real life in any model/ body type. i just adore them in photos! so i was hoping that they look as good in real life. so im stoked that you reakon that they look better in real life than they do in photos! cant wait for it to arrive here! cheers adriana |
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Location: bishop, ca | Adriana, FWIW (not-much) , I really like the 61 PLY's front end appearance without that optional grille guard guy disrupting
the appearance of the waterfall-like grille.
If anyone recalls Paul Garlick's having created a 1961 Plodge, by adding a PLY front clip to a DOD body, you will recall
that the over-all appearance of the car was VERY attractive.
As the 61 DOD/PLY's were completely different from the 60's, it's too bad that the DOD didn't have what turned out to be
the 61 PLY grille, and, the 61 PLY grille is not all that different, from the 62 DOD, AND.....the 62 PLY has a grille not-all-that-
different, from the 61 DOD!!!!
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Location: bishop, ca | Ian has forcefully argued 'this' point, in the past!
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Location: Adelaide Australia | what does the front of that '62 wagon look like? the back is almost the same except for the tail lights. i attached a pic of the garlick car... it has the dodge tail end and the plymouth front end! looks fabulous! yeah neil, i dont like the fury bumper much either, makes the car look angry! my wagon has the standard bumper but also comes with an extra fury bumper. cheers adriana
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thanks doctordesoto! i feel a little better now. im importing a '61 plymouth wagon to australia, and i have never seen a '61 plymouth in real life in any model/ body type. i just adore them in photos! so i was hoping that they look as good in real life. so im stoked that you reakon that they look better in real life than they do in photos! cant wait for it to arrive here! cheers adriana
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Look, we are all a little "whacked" for liking these cars, but those who have to hop oceans to get them have to be a little "extra whacked" ! I can only imagine how this wagon is going to stand out like some lunar lander in Australia ! You must be very driven to own such an out of place rig, but I trust with all this effort, you are going to love every minute of it ! Photos do not capture the "presence" these have very well. You will be very happy, I am sure ! 
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Location: Adelaide Australia | i am very happy! it is my dream car! and i hunted one down and took the plunge and bought it! mad thing to do when you are only 19, but what can i say. it will be the only '61 plymouth suburban over here! there are 2x 4-doors and a coupe over here though (in another state, only one of the 4doors is on the road) so i am very excited and cant wait to start restoring it when it gets here! i absolutely adore the '61 plymouths and inparticular the suburbans. ive been bought up with american cars my whole life, so thought id save up and get one of my own! thanks for all the kind words and info. as soon as it arrives i'll take some pics and post them! cheers adriana |
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Location: bishop, ca | I'm a fan of factory options as much as anyone, but , MAN! that 61 PLY grille/bumper guard just ruins (imho) the shape-
apearance of the water-fall grille.
It gives the car a sort of 'under-bite' , or angry Bull Dog, look.
You will REALLY like its "Jetson's" space age dashboard and square (optional, right?) steering wheel!
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Location: Adelaide Australia | yeah i know what you mean! some options i like for the '61's is the astro wheel! and the mascara inserts (not sure of there proper name, but the chrome inserts that fit above the headlights!) if anyone has either of these two things spare id be interested in purchasing them! my wagon has the am radio and heater options, for a (bottom of the range) deluxe suburban thats ok, i guess! cheers adriana |
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Location: northern germany | i like the bumper grille bar and can't stand the "mascara inserts" it looks mean and powerfull without but with the bright headlight trim it looses the sinister look, makes it look like bambi, also that headlight trim looks out of place looking from the side, it spoils the lines. also the front end looks less unique since the headlight trim makes the headlight area look like a part of the grille, giving it a squarish look. but i love the optional front fender chrome spears. |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | people either love or hat the fury bumper or mascara inserts. i kind of agree, i think that the mascara inserts look good on some body colours (usually the darker ones) and out of place on other (usually lighter colours) i like that little chrome bit that goes down the side of the fender, gives it a kinda custom edge! i dont like the fury bumper for the sinister reason, looks like it will run you down and eat you! lol. what are the fender spears? have you got a picture? i really need to get my hands on a '61 accessories catalogue! cheers adriana |
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | And here are some pics of the 61 fury sedan Adriana is talking about, owned by me! I love these cars good to see that they are begining to get noticed, bout time I also own 50's ch***vys, Cad**ys and F*%ds but my fury is my fav probably because of its futuristic space age, jetsons styling and it was the car I learned to drive in at age 11! She is a Canadian built rhd unit (60 ply dash),built for export to India where it was owned by a catholic bishop.
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Location: NY & VT | Having had a '61 also - my take is they look best without the grill bar AND without the headlight inserts - less is more! But TEHO, and it's a good thing that we don't all like the exact same things! I think they look best in light colors also.
I'd certainly consider the '62 Chrysler wagon as a FL - it had the exact same body as the '61, and the Dodge Custom 880 continued that body right through '64 - while the styling was toned down and refined slightly, it is clearly still a Forward Look car, the very last of the breed. Chrysler Corp continued with that body due to popular demand for a full size Dodge car and they didn't have the resources to reskin it in the way that they did with the '63/64 Newport/NY/300. Forward Look was basically an advertising slogan that was not used in ads after '59, as far as I can recall. We now arbitrarily label all the cars 55-61 that way, but the '62-64 cars above were the carryover version of the same cars. They are classic FL cars, as opposed to the stillborn full size '62 DeSoto/Dodge which was cancelled for production by late 1960, and which looked like a larger 62 Dodge Dart/440 & 62 Plymouth cross. I have pics of it in Richard Langworth's excellent Postwar Chrysler book - (now out of print).
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Location: northern germany | Mr Fins - 2008-04-23 7:47 AM
i like that little chrome bit that goes down the side of the fender, gives it a kinda custom edge! i dont like the fury bumper for the sinister reason, looks like it will run you down and eat you! lol. what are the fender spears?
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Location: Adelaide Australia | yes, too true roger, if we all liked the same thing, it would be very boring to go to a car show/ cruise. all the cars would be same colour, same model- how boring! and even though you wouldnt choose to own certain cars, or choose to option them like someone else has, you can still appreciate them for what they are! roger, tell the new owner of your plymmie to post pictures of his resto progress, would love to see them! thankyou chris for your pictures! sid, i know what you mean now, think i miss read, thought you meant bumper spears! lol. fabulous! keep the photos coming! cheers adriana |
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Location: bishop, ca | What's interesting, about this '62 wagon, is that in 1961, the CHRY wagon body was a 100% carry-over, from 1960's
finned body, but the front clip was pretty-much identical to what you see HERE, carried over to the 1962 model, and,
this 1962 wagon-body was carried-over, from the 1961 small-body wagons.
So, THIS car is PURE FWDLK!
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Location: Enfield, CT | Agreed.......it's all FWD LOOK.
BTW look under 60 Plymouth there's a Suburban wagon being parted out with the Bumper Overrider auction bids over $200.00 and climbing............
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hmmm, that '62 wagon looks funny to me (now seeing the front view). i adore the '61 plymouth wagons and i adore the '61 chrysler wagons, but i would rather one of each not them both warped in to the same car! i find it wierd. anyway thats just my opinion. found the auction, ozzie. Gees, $200! mine is in heaps better nic than that one! if anyone comes across the mascara inserts for sale could you please let me know, or if you have a spare pair yourself that you wish to sell! cheers adriana |
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Hi Adriana! I got the pics you sent of your car! It looks way cool and think it should be an easy restoration! If you need any parts or help with your car, there is local guy, Smitty, who you may find on the FL.net every now and again who may be able to help you out with some of the parts your looking for. Here is his website......
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P.S. I've been working on the '61 Plymouth web page and hope to get it finished up soon! I'll be sure to let you all know!
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Location: Adelaide Australia | i saw your email on the '61 blog, rob. didnt realise it was you.... anyway glad you like the photos. how bad is the red, yuk! yeah, ive emailed smitty regarding the mascara inserts he has on one of the fury coupes that he is wrecking but have recieved no answer as yet. cant wait for the '61 plymouth website to be up and running! i have heaps of ads here if you want to do a page on advertising/ sales literature! let us all know when it is up im sure it'll get a few hits! was that coral wagon pic that i posted, the one that you guys were talking about? cheers adriana |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | swept57, theres a pic of your wagon on this site! http://www.histomobile.com/1/Plymouth/1960/Suburban_.htm this is not the site where the person was trying to locate your suburban (cant seem to find that site again) but when you do get pics of your wagon, please email me some would still love to see them! cheers adriana |
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Location: Seville, OH | Adriana,
That picture was taken in front of Jerry Junemann's (sp?) Mopar museum in Hayes Kansas. I don't know if that museum is still open, but Jerry had some fantastic MoPars. He had seen the wagon running around locally for years and tracked down the owner to buy it because he was sure it would otherwise end up a derby car. The guy he bought it from used it as a fishing wagon, but if you could see what he had etched into both quarter windows, he used it for a little more than fishing. I bought the car from Jerry through an ad in a MoPar magazine.
Also, there use to be a web site run by a guy named Dave (Smith maybe) devoted only to 1961 Plymouth Suburbans. It was a cool site and he had the same picture on the site with an inquiry as to who owned it. I told him I had it. The site was developing nicely then just disappeared a number of years ago.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | oh nice wagon todd! great to see another 2door suburban! have you talked to a guy called bill, if not you ought to cos hes got a white 2door also! is that another 2door '61 behind it?!?! dave what was etched into the windows? well least you saved it from disaster! keep those suburban pics coming everyone!! cheers adriana |
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Location: Seville, OH | A little side story on the wagon when I went to pick it up. I flew into Hayes to pick the car up and drive it back to Ohio. Jerry's place was really busy and I spent a lot of time in the museum but late in the day I hit the road. About two hundred miles into the trip back a feeling of panic overtook me because I had not checked the VIN with the title. I pulled into a rest stop and checked the numbers....not even close. I called Jerry and he told me I would have the correct title by the time I got to Ohio and I did. So... I guess I own two suburbans. But I have no idea where the other one is! |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | ive seen a few for sale that dont have a title, maybe you have the title! lol. well lucky he had the correct one or you would have been in real strife! can you tell by the title if its a deluxe or what colour it is? when i found that pic, i wondered if it was a pic of your car, cos i havent heard of another deluxe wagon or any '61 suburban for that matter with the airforce blue. alpine white colour duo! it looks great in that colour by the way! |
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Location: Perry, OK | No that is a 60 behind the 61. It is under construction for my buddy Tom. He owns the 61 as well, but I may inherit it! We will see.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | dave, my dad just read this blog and noticed that your suburban came from the same guy that his '62 imperial did! although his business was called wheels and spokes back then. you wouldnt have a number or contact for jerry junemann would you? he wants to try and find out some history for his '62. cos dad bought it from the guy that imported the car from junemann in kansas. how long have you had your sub? adriana |
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What's interesting, about this '62 wagon, is that in 1961, the CHRY wagon body was a 100% carry-over, from 1960's
finned body, but the front clip was pretty-much identical to what you see HERE, carried over to the 1962 model, and,
this 1962 wagon-body was carried-over, from the 1961 small-body wagons.
So, THIS car is PURE FWDLK!
After Mopar killed Exner's "S" series for 1962, Chrysler needed a cheap way to dump the fins for 1962. Thus they took the 1961 Dodge Polara (no fins on the doors), attached the 1961 front clip and came up with new rear quarters.
For the wagon they took the 1961 Plymouth (no fins anywhere), attached the 1961 Chrysler front clip and came up with new rear taillamps. The 1961 Plymouth wagons were on a 122" wheelbase, same as the Dart, Polara and Newport wagons. Thus the ease to convert a Plymouth wagon into a Chrysler.
When the decision was made to bring back the big Dodge, Chrysler simply took the 1962 Newport with its 1961 Polara body, 1961 Chrysler front clip and new rear quarters, and put the 1961 Dart/Polara clip back on the body. The Custom 880 wagons used the same body as the Town & Country but with that 1961 Dodge nose.
Should point out that the 1960-61 Plymouth and Dart actually shared their bodies with the Polara, DeSoto and Chrysler. The front firewall, windshield, front floorpan, rear seat floorpan, and trunk floorpan were shared by all. The extra 4" in wheelbase was all in the floor or the rear seat area. The front doors are all the same size (though the 1960-61 DeSoto/Chrysler doors had fins) while the rear doors on the 122" wheelbase models are longer than the doors on the 118" models. Thus the front clips are interchangeable - you can put a 1961 Plymouth nose onto a Dodge, DeSoto or Chrysler.
The 126" wheelbase Chryslers placed the extra 4" in the front clip. Thus you can take a 1961 New Yorker front clip and put it onto a 1961 Plymouth wagon and land up with a 126" wheelbase. Put it onto a 1961 Plymouth sedan and you have a 122" wheelbase.
The 1962 Plymouth, Dodge Dart and Polara shared a totally new body. It shared nothing with its smaller siblings (Valiant & Lancer) or the larger models (Custom 880 and Chrysler) and was, in size, between the two.
(Small note - Chrysler modified the firewall for 1962 and thus had to modify the attaching points on the 1961 Dodge & Chrysler front clips where they attach to the firewall. Thus you can swap around 1961 front clips and 1962 front clips but not place 1961 clips on a 1962 body or vice versa.)
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The 126" wheelbase Chryslers placed the extra 4" in the front clip. Thus you can take a 1961 New Yorker front clip and put it onto a 1961 Plymouth wagon and land up with a 126" wheelbase. Put it onto a 1961 Plymouth sedan and you have a 122" wheelbase.
i don't think so. true, all the extra lenght is in the front fender/subframe BUT the 126" wb cars have the subframe/body attaching bolts in a different location. its very hard to believe and it makes no sense but even the body dimensions are marginally different although all the trim is exchangeable. so you can't bolt the longer 126" subfame on a 118"/122" wheelbase car or vice versa, at least not a 1960. |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | i have some fabulous news! my '61 suburban is finally getting shipped the 1st june and is due to arrive here in OZ 8th july!! im so excited i cant wait! i'll be sure to post pics as soon as i get my hands on it!  adriana |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | yes that is right, roger, and i have been waiting patiently.... its because the dollars so good, and everyones importing cars from the states at the moment, that there are containers leaving the states left right and centre, but none returning, so there is a massive queue of cars at the ports and a shortage of containers... but its finally time for my sub to make its voyage out here, i cant wait! hope everything goes to plan though! cheers adriana |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hey all! does anyone know if you can get repro rubber floor coverings for '61 subs? and also if you can get repro floor pans? (cos mine are a little rusty!) cheers adriana |
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Location: Perry, OK | I struck out on the rubber floor mat for the 60 Suburban. I looked all over. If you find one let me know, I ended up putting in carpet for a 2 door Sedan. Floor pans I went with X-Treme Metal Works. Their number is 978-988-8755. They are listed for a 60-62 Chrysler but they are the same, they worked out great! They have rears as well I think, all I did was front. Can provide pics if you need. |
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Location: bishop, ca | North, East and Mid-Western cars tend to have lousy sheetmetal, but good soft/rubber pieces & trim.
Western cars have great metal parts, but petrified soft/rubber pieces & trim.
Southern cars (not near the coastline) may have the best of both 'worlds', but, probably not-great sheetmetal.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | thanks 60suburban! ive been looking for the rubber floor coverings, cos thats what mine has originally, but havent had any luck finding them either. i was told that only the front floor and the spare wheel well is rusty (we'll see when it gets here!), so if i could get the floor pans it would be ace. cheers adriana |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | 19 days and my Subs due to arrive here in SA. today i recieved some paper work from the guy i bought it from which he had forgotten to put in the car... theres various paper pieces, but a few pieces that stood out to me was what i believe to be the first rego paper dated 30/1/1961, the owners service certificate and the certified car care booklet! it was delivered on the 23/11/1960 from White Plymouth Dealership, WA! so exciting! cant wait for the car to arrive! cheers adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | good to see more people that love the 61s, i have a 61 suburban here in nz , it came in new as a hearse , i am giving it a tidy up at the moment it is in my workshop all bare metal and in very good cond, should be back on the road in the next 2 months. will be good to see more pics of yours when it gets to oz adriana, how do you post pics on here?cheers vaughan |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hey ya vaughan! u go to the reply button & then click add file/ pics after posting. had any luck with headlight rings yet? 13 days 2 go and my sub is set 2 arrive! cheers adriana
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it was delivered on the 23/11/1960 from White Plymouth Dealership, WA!
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Location: Adelaide Australia | washington is in the USA. lol.... nah seattle washington, thats where it has been its whole life. thats what the owners certificate stated. cheers adriana |
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washington is in the USA. lol.... nah seattle washington, thats where it has been its whole life. thats what the owners certificate stated. cheers adriana
Yeah, ... I got THAT ! ( I am in Washington State, also)
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | no head light surrounds yet adriana, i am trying to find out more about mine but a abit hard as the funeral home that bought it new has changed owners since 61 , but i did get some pics of it when new out side the place that they sent me, i will get them on here soon, mine has a 225 slant 6 and push button auto, factory electric tail gate glass and the cool glitter steering wheel. i would love to get any spares i could for it if any come up. it is all bare steel at the moment and only 2 panels have been damaged before so it is in super good cond for age, i am only painting the out side as all inside is still original paint and good enough cond for me, car is black with black/silver interior, was built in onterio canada in rhd to come out here new, body number is 145.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | vaughan! im jelous, you have an astro wheel!! my steering wheel doesnt even have a horn ring! and an electric tail gate! mine has a heater, radio and padded dash! lol, you have much cooler options! doctor desoto, sorry for being a smart arse, i couldnt resist, do you know anything about the white plymouth dealership then? would be interested in any info. maybe you even remember my wagon driving around? the guy i bought it off was from McKenna washington. cheers adriana |
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vaughan! im jelous, you have an astro wheel!! my steering wheel doesnt even have a horn ring! and an electric tail gate! mine has a heater, radio and padded dash! lol, you have much cooler options! doctor desoto, sorry for being a smart arse, i couldnt resist, do you know anything about the white plymouth dealership then? would be interested in any info. maybe you even remember my wagon driving around? the guy i bought it off was from McKenna washington. cheers adriana
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Location: Adelaide Australia | well maybe if they had been even slightly appreciated 10-15 years ago, they wouldnt have all been scrapped and youd actually be able to find one now.  adriana
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WHITE PLYMOUTH DEALERSHIP IN SEATTLE WASHINGTON? IS IT STILL AROUND? PICS/ INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hey all! i recieved my '61 decoder yesterday, so if anyone needs/wants any decoding for their '61 plymouths, im dying to try it out! cheers adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | what is a decoder and what do you need to try it out,
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Location: Adelaide Australia | it decodes the VIN and VNP number, and it tells you things like the production number, model, plant it came from, interior colour, exterior colour, engine etc. very interesting.... vaughan, the VIN number is on a metal plate in the door jam of the front left door and the VNP is in a metal plate in the engine bay somewhere.... if you email the numbers to me ill decode them and let you know what the numbers stand for (let me know which numbers are VIN and which numbers are VNP tho, or ill get confused.... how the progress on your sub goin? cheers adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | sounds good i will get the numbers on friday and email them to you .thanks
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it was delivered on the 23/11/1960 from White Plymouth Dealership, WA! so exciting! cant wait for the car to arrive! cheers adriana
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Here I thought I had really hit the jackpot, but if WHITE was the name of your dealership, then I guess I am off the mark. Anyway, ... thought you might think this was a fun find.
I was asking around about your dealership and this sign came out of the woodwork last weekend.
WAY, .... WHITE, ..... close, but no cigar !
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Location: Adelaide Australia | no, no cigar, but cool anyhow.... did you find any info on the illusive White Plymouth Dealership? my sub is somewhere in the country but still havent got my eyes or hands on it! cheers adriana |
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Hello Adriana! Its been a while since I have checked back on the site. Congrats on getting your car soon. I'll have to send you the info to my car so you can decode it for me! Post pics when you get the car! |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | hi all ,adriana your new baby must just about be there cant wait to see some more pics , keep forgeting my numbers will try to remember tomorrow,
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hello all! still dont have my sub! bloody catastrophy to say the least.... i was meant to get it 2 weeks ago.... but i am now informed that the ship is arriving tomorrow.... but funny how i was told the container had been redlined in melbourne a week ago!!!!! i am infuriated about the whole thing!! when my sub finally gets here ill be sure to post pics! anyway.... now that i have vented my frustrations, vaughan hows your sub resto goin? find out anymore history on the car? rob, how you been? hows your sub goin? im getting better with my decoding now too, so im more than happy to decode em if you guys want me to. cheers adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | hi adriana , gutted to hear about your sub being late.finally got my numbers.on the tag on the left pillar is 25/19121142 ,on the tag in the engine bay model is R P 1 L 4 5, body # 145 , paint AA, trim RLB , be interresting to see what it says about the car, thanks in advance, will post some more pics soon, cheers vaughan |
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Location: Adelaide Australia | hello vaughan, ive always wondered if it's work for an export or canadian car....well it kinda works....
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2= plymouth 6cyl
5= savoy station wagon
1= 1961
9= assembly plant [there is no 9, because it only lists US plants]
121142= 21142 production number
the VIN worked ok, but the VNP doesnt...
there should be two sets of four numbers, the first indicating the shipping order number and the second indicating the production sequence.... then the 145 is supposed to equal the body style [but there is no 145 on the sheet] the AA is supposed to equal the body colour [but AA= maize top and maize lower] and the RLB [the first two letters should be numbers]
so im not sure what has gone wrong, my friend randy mistook some of the letters for numbers so maybe check it again, as his were GG's not 66's.... sorry this didnt turn out.... always wondered if it would work for export cars, i guess my questions been answered..... cheers adriana |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | Mr Fins - 2008-07-16 7:35 PM
hello vaughan, ive always wondered if it's work for an export or canadian car....well it kinda works....
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2= plymouth 6cyl
5= savoy station wagon
1= 1961
9= assembly plant [there is no 9, because it only lists US plants]
121142= 21142 production number
the VIN worked ok, but the VNP doesnt...
there should be two sets of four numbers, the first indicating the shipping order number and the second indicating the production sequence.... then the 145 is supposed to equal the body style [but there is no 145 on the sheet] the AA is supposed to equal the body colour [but AA= maize top and maize lower] and the RLB [the first two letters should be numbers] so im not sure what has gone wrong, my friend randy mistook some of the letters for numbers so maybe check it again, as his were GG's not 66's.... sorry this didnt turn out.... always wondered if it would work for export cars, i guess my questions been answered..... cheers adriana
Vaughan has a Canadian Plymouth, so the tag under the hood is different.
The "9" in the VIN for Windsor, ON.
You are right about 121142 - it was the 21,142nd 1961 car built at Windsor. For 1961, Chrysler of Canada built Valiants, Plymouths, Dodge Darts and Chrysler Windsor/Saratoga models. All convertibles were imported as were Chrysler New Yorker/300-G and Imperials. No 1961 Dodge Lancer, Dodge Polara or DeSoto models in Canada.
Canadian Plymouth and Dart models used the U.S. Plymouth instrument panel along with U.S. Dart upholstery and door panels.
For the Canadian tag, which was used from at least 1935 through 1965 -
Model No. : R P 1 L 45
R - 1961
P - Plymouth
1 - 6
L - Savoy / Suburban
4 - 4-door
5 - 2-seat wagon
Body No. : 145
145th 1961 Plymouth 6 Suburban 4-door, 2-seat wagon built
Paint : AA
A - Upper colour - Black
A - Lower colour - Black
Canadian colours were different from the U.S. prior to 1966, although 1965 was almost the same. In 1961 Chrysler of Canada had a "Sunlight Yellow", code R, which was lighter and brighter than Plymouth's "Maize", code A.
Trim : RLB
R - 1961
L - low series (Plymouth Savoy & Dodge Dart Seneca)
B - Black & silver
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Location: Adelaide Australia | fabulous! thanks Chrycoman.... very interesting.... where did you get the canadian/ export decoder from? im intrigued by the difference between the US-Canadian and Export '61 plymmies.... i have a few of the canadian sales pieces... they had some cool colours available! cheers adriana
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Location: Vancouver, BC | Mr Fins - 2008-07-20 4:13 AM
fabulous! thanks Chrycoman.... very interesting.... where did you get the canadian/ export decoder from? im intrigued by the difference between the US-Canadian and Export '61 plymmies.... i have a few of the canadian sales pieces... they had some cool colours available! cheers adriana
I have Chrysler of Canada parts books from 1936 through 1966, except for 1938 and 1946-48. Plus the Canadian Plymouth master list to the beginning of the 1933 model year and the 1934 Chrysler Airflow (6 & 8).
Plus I have various CIL and DuPont Canada colour lists from 1937 through to now, except for 1942 and 1946. I have the actual colour chips sheets for 1940-41, 1949-50 and 1954 to date, plus 1946 trucks.
As well I have brochures, etc. from the early 1950's to date, plus 1940 Plymouth and 1941 Dodge Kingsway. And Canadian ads going back into the 1920's.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | how cool, im jelous.... do you have the '61 plymouth canadian colour chips? ive been looking for a set everywhere but havent been able to find a set. the canadian stuff is hard to find, but you seem to be having no trouble at all if you have pics of the canadian '61 brochures id love to see em!! adriana |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | d500neil - 2008-07-21 12:40 PM
Bill, tell me, again, why neither Chrysler (Detroit) nor Chrysler CAN (---where were/are they located; Windsor?) kept any IBM-type production records on the CAN production ?
I suspect they were kept at the main Chryco Parts warehouse in Chatham, Ontario, and not the factory in Windsor. They were kept to assist the dealers and distributors in ordering the correct body parts, interior trim, carbs, etc. By quoting the serial number on the car, the people at Chryco Parts could look up the equipment installed on the car. The Chatham warehouse even supplied painted body parts for a dealer if they did not have access to a spray booth.
Chrysler also had a warehouse in Regina to supply western Canada into the 1950`s and I suspect they would have had copies of the records as well. (Regina had no paint facilities, though.) The Regina warehouse was augmented by warehouses in Red Deer and Vancouver in the mid-1950`s as Chrysler dumped the distributor system of selling their vehicles. The Regina warehouse was replaced by one in Winnipeg. Both the Red Deer and Vancouver facilities were replaced by new, larger units about ten years ago. Interestingly, the old Vancouver site was to have been developed by Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart also bought the old AMC plant in Brampton from Chrysler around 1994-95.
Apparently the build records were destroyed after about seven years as by that time such things as interior upholstery and most exterior body parts were no longer available. No one viewed them as having any historical context, just information for supplying the customer with the correct parts. The head office in Detroit never got a copy of these records as they were of no use to them.
Studebaker of Canada also kept their records for about six or seven years. When the Hamilton plant shut down in March, 1966, they sent all their build records to the Studebaker Museum in South Bend, where they still reside. Studebaker of Canada`s build records only cover 1960 through to the end in 1966. The Hamilton plant opened in 1948, and Studebaker had a plant in Windsor from 1911 until 1942, although production ceased in 1936.
GM of Canada has information on post war vehicles, but nothing on prewar. Ford of Canada is much the same. All of Hudson of Canada`s records were destroyed when they moved to the Toronto Nash plant in late 1954. Hudson engineers apparently arrived at the Toronto plant with seven file cabinets filled with engineering documentation on Canadian-built Hudsons. The plant manager at Toronto declared all the information was useless, given that Hudson was forced to merge with Nash to survive. And all those documents were destroyed.
Seems Canadian auto managers did not have much sense of history. Ford of Canada has decent archives, thanks to the late Herman Smith who scrounged around to collect as much historical documentation as he could back in the 1960`s.
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Location: Vancouver, BC | Mr Fins - 2008-07-20 3:48 PM
how cool, im jelous.... do you have the '61 plymouth canadian colour chips? ive been looking for a set everywhere but havent been able to find a set. the canadian stuff is hard to find, but you seem to be having no trouble at all if you have pics of the canadian '61 brochures id love to see em!! adriana
I have been searching for this stuff for about ten years now. As I live in Canada, I suspect it is a little easier for me to find the info than you in Australia!
I am attaching the 1961 CIL sheet along with the supplementary for the spring colours.
I have three items for the 1961 Plymouth -
- brochure (booklet style) with illustrations of all the models.
- folder with the same illustrations plus the Canadian Valiant
- the Ross Roy data book for Canadian Valiant, Plymouth and Chrysler. It also has info on the imported Imperial.
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Location: Adelaide Australia | fabulous! were the same colours used for the whole canadian chrysler range of 1961? love the parakeet green!! i have a canadian double page add for the new fury coupe, the canadian fold out brochure [with orangey/ yellow cover] folds out to a massive poster with illustrations of all the plymouth/ valiant models. and ive got the canadian owners kit [little folder with owners manual, certified car care plan booklet] plus tonnes and tonnes of gear for the US '61 plymouths. even though i have a wagon i collect the sales/ advertising merchandise etc for the whole '61 plymouth range. thanks for you info, help and pics... very much appreciated, and very interesting! cheers adriana |
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Yes, in Canada Chrysler, Ford and GM used the same colours on all cars, although in the 1950's GM had certain colours available only on Oldsmobiles and Buicks. In the 1930's, 1940's and 1950's GM and Chrysler had unique to Canada colours while Ford had a few. By 1960 Chrysler and GM had mostly American colours and with the implementation of the Canada-US auto trade agreement for the 1966 model year, all the unique Canadian colours were gone.
The Canadian 1961 Plymouth brochure I have has the same illustrations as your folder, less the Valiant info. I have the Canadian Dodge Dart and Dart-Valiant equivalents. I have a collection of American and Canadian brochures dating back into the early 1950's with a few in the 1940's. Plus adverts going back into the 1920's. That coupled with the books, manuals, etc. I have - I hate moving!
And to show you what Parakeet looks like on a car . . . This one was for sale a few years back. Cannot remember what they were asking - I think $3,800? Unfortunately I was $3,700 short. I love the 1960-62 Valiants and Lancers and this one I really like.
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The photo shown is a photo of the photo I took with the film camera.
Back of the wagon was full of stuff, crates of fruit on top, and a tire on top of that.
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Sending some new taken pictures of my Fury. I have posted some about two ago, so when I read this thread I thought maybe it could be of interest to see some more 1961 Plymouth´s pictures. As you can see the steering wheel was ina really bad shape and I realized that I couldn´t fix a clearcoated one so I had it painted metalflake instead. Hope you enjoy the pictures.
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | what is the best way to convert my wagon to disc brakes on the front, bearing in mind i live in new zealand , the back drums are getting rebuilt at the moment, i have file finished both back guards now so not to long before back on the road,even if we pay over $2 a litre for petrol im still going to drive it all the time and tow my comp jeep with it ,
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Location: Australia | hello all.... my car finally cleared quaranteen yesterday and i am now able to pick it up! so now that my car has finally arrived i thought it also about time i got my own account here on the forwardlook site instead of taking over my fathers [mr fins] account. so it is still me [adriana] who started this thread justy now i am [suburban61] i went down to the shipping yard this morning and saw my Sub for the first time, i adore it! and at the moment i am waiting for the tow truck to deliver it to my house, as soon as it gets here ill upload some pics!! how exciting!! adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | good to hear its arrived adriana, looking forward to see some pics,
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Location: Australia | vaughan, look under 'members rides' ive posted a thread of pics in there.... cheers adriana |
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Location: Australia | we didnt have a lecturer this morning at tafe, so i came home and decided id share some photos, should really get on with my layouts tho... oh well, enjoy.... here are some pics of some of the sales literature and '61 plymouth memrobilia i have collected, thought you'd all might be interested in seeing some of it....
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Location: Australia | rockin T, your astro wheel looks alright actually, do you not have anyone over there that can restore them or is it just to pricey? you got a record player and clock, and is that aircon on the dash? nice '59 caddy taillights, gives it a custom edge.... rob, that pic is just fabulous!! oh, it was once red like mine, id love a copy of that photo! i would have climbed out the bus window to get a picture also!! keep the photos coming!! |
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Location: Australia | just realised that i havent actually added a pic of my own sub to the thread.... so here goes..... i put some more pics on a thread in members rides, link below....
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Wow - that's a nice collection! The item that I think is the "best" must be the "Fix your Plymouth" book - real cool. |
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Location: Australia | wizard, i love that book so much!! i have somehow misplaced my '61 cop car ads... gees if you saw the unorganized chaos of all the things i collect and have here you wouldnt be surprised.... adriana :] |
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Location: Seville, OH | I have the 1968 version of Fix Your Plymouth. Cool book. Adriana, here is my tag. What does your secret decoder ring say?
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Yes, thats correct that it´s the air cond inlets you see on the dashboard. The car have quite lot of options from new. Some of them is,Double outside mirrors, Tinted windows, Air cond, Bumperguard, Headlight trimplates with the spears at the sides (What I understand, a lot of the members here don´t like the trimplates and the bumperguard), Power windows, Stone shields. I put the hubcaps from a 1962 Dodge on the car and painted them in the same colour as the car. Like them better tahn the original. And what you also noticed, put the lenses from 1959 Caddy on the car. Think that it suits the style of the car good. The engine in the car is a 383 cui so it could move good if I want. I´m a fan of old Rock´n roll records from the 50´s and early 60´s so some of the records am I playing now and then when I drive the car. But such a record player is really a destroyer of the records, so the records in nice condition am I not playing in the car. The needle in the record player is working with a high pressure so it should not skip if the road is bumpy where you drive the car. Do you like the music from the 50´s? In those days you had in Australia a good Rock´n roll star, Johnny O´Keefe. But I belive you are to young to remember him. But if I´m not wrong, in his big days he drove a Forward Look car. 1960 Dodge or something like that. Maybe some from Australia knows what car Johnny O´Keefe drove. But one thing for sure, No CD player in such a car. It should be the 7 " records.
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Location: Australia | dave! does that mean that you have pics of your sub? i am dying to see them! i shall decode when i get a moment... rockin T i love the aluminum trim, being a girl i call em 'mascara inserts'! i really want a set for my sub, however i am not a hug fan of the fury bar! i have one for my sub and refuse to put it on.... ive never seen a '61 with the air con option before, must be rather rare. you must not presume that because i am young, that i dont know anything and that i would not know who johnnie o'keefe is... i love 50's and 60's music! i have heaps of records and my ipod is full of old songs... im glad you've heard of our johnnie okeefe! im sure that everyone who has read my threads knows how mad i am, i was definately born in the wrong decade! things these days have no meaning, soul or presence, so i much prefer things from the 50's and 60's, i just love all my retro and vintage stuff! i am stoked that i have the plymouth am radio option, over here we have a station on the AM band that plays all the old songs, so thats what its tuned for, yeah no need for a CD player.... thanks for your kind words, cheers adriana |
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Location: Australia | i collect/hoard everything, i love anything 50's/60's, cars, clothes, records, pinball machines, jukeboxes, magazines, textiles and fabrics, furniture, movies, the music, the TV shows... as i said i was definately born in the wrong era! lol.... adriana |
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Location: Seville, OH | I collect records as well, although I have only bought a few in the last few years. I estimate I have about 2000 LP's and 200 45's from the late fifties to mid eighties.
Adriana, I did go back to Ohio and pulled my sub out of storage. I took a bunch of pictures. Despite having gas that was about eight years old (with stabilizer) it fired up immediately and ran great. I even drove it twenty miles to my mothers house. It was a balst to drive again. But, as I metioned, I can't really justify keeping it. I'll probably offer it up here and then on to eBay.
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Location: Australia | WHERES THE PHOTOS????????????????????????????????????????????? common dont tease me any more...... adriana |
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Location: Seville, OH | Cool yer jets girl, I have to resize them all. I did put one up though. It is in better condition then I remembered it to be. You should be the only one in Australia with TWO 61 Subs.
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Location: Australia | sorry, im just excited.... ok, well i will sit in anticipation, actually i would like to be the only one to have a whole heard of '61 suburbans, lol.... i think my Sub 'oscar' is lonely, he needs a friend.... yours looks good, cant wait to see more pics... PM me how much your asking for it... cheers adriana....
i decoded this for you....
Shipping Order- 0112= 12th Jan'
number- 6902= production sequence
body#-356= 4 door wagon, 6 passenger, 8 cylinder
trim-601= blue cloth/vinyl- deluxe suburban
paint code- DD1= airforce blue metallic, top & bottom
your actually decoded well, looks like it actually is an original airforce blue car, minus the alpine white roof..... do you have your VIN #? i can decode that also.... cheers adriana
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | rockin T - 2008-08-20 3:54 PM the King of Aussie rock'n roll and on of my favorite Aussie acts Johnny O'Keefe drove a 1959 Plymouth Belvedere that he bought in 1960 after his trip to the USA which was a failure, he wanted to creat an image of an Aussie Rock star that had hit big time over seas, and bought the bigest, and brightest chrome ladden tank he could find here in australia as soon as he returned home! The chicks really dug it! he use to drive like an absolute nut case with his foot flat to the floor all the time, as a result no one would get in the car with him, as a result while on tour early 1961 he wrote of the Plymouth after driving head on at flat out speed straight into a tip truck, the Plymouth was so bad it was unidentifiable, he almost lost his life, but went on to recover, a pruduce hit after hit in Aus, and always owned flash US Autos his next most famous being a 1968 Ponti firebird conv that he used to stack on a regular basis due to driving stonned of his head! Another famous Aussie who completely wrote of a forward looker when new was aussie Olympic athelete Dawn frazer she was injured badly when she wrote of a 1958 Belvedere! Just thought I share some of my Aussie rock 'n roll knowledge with you lot sorry if I bored anyone.
Hello Adriana
Yes, thats correct that it´s the air cond inlets you see on the dashboard. The car have quite lot of options from new. Some of them is,Double outside mirrors, Tinted windows, Air cond, Bumperguard, Headlight trimplates with the spears at the sides (What I understand, a lot of the members here don´t like the trimplates and the bumperguard), Power windows, Stone shields. I put the hubcaps from a 1962 Dodge on the car and painted them in the same colour as the car. Like them better tahn the original. And what you also noticed, put the lenses from 1959 Caddy on the car. Think that it suits the style of the car good. The engine in the car is a 383 cui so it could move good if I want. I´m a fan of old Rock´n roll records from the 50´s and early 60´s so some of the records am I playing now and then when I drive the car. But such a record player is really a destroyer of the records, so the records in nice condition am I not playing in the car. The needle in the record player is working with a high pressure so it should not skip if the road is bumpy where you drive the car. Do you like the music from the 50´s? In those days you had in Australia a good Rock´n roll star, Johnny O´Keefe. But I belive you are to young to remember him. But if I´m not wrong, in his big days he drove a Forward Look car. 1960 Dodge or something like that. Maybe some from Australia knows what car Johnny O´Keefe drove. But one thing for sure, No CD player in such a car. It should be the 7 " records.
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Location: Australia | yeah its from the show... one of the main cars in the show was a '61 plymouth four door hardtop, and theres many subs in the street scenes, never seen the show myself, been trying to find it on dvd boxset, but its not released over here yet.... another movie people should check out is blue hawaii, a couple of subs in the street scenes and also elvis drives around in one... the movie is weak as, but worth a look for the '61 wagons... ill post some screen grabs of the wagons... |
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Location: Australia | come on, come on, come on.... people out there must have more '61 plymouth suburban pics.... anyone with any factory pics, pics from days gone by, ones that have been for sale... also check out the elvis movie 'blue hawaii' he gets around in a beautiful ice blue metallic '61 sub... a couple more i have found...
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Location: Connecticut | Swept57 - 2008-05-14 10:25 PM
Adriana,
That picture was taken in front of Jerry Junemann's (sp?) Mopar museum in Hayes Kansas. I don't know if that museum is still open, but Jerry had some fantastic MoPars. He had seen the wagon running around locally for years and tracked down the owner to buy it because he was sure it would otherwise end up a derby car. The guy he bought it from used it as a fishing wagon, but if you could see what he had etched into both quarter windows, he used it for a little more than fishing. I bought the car from Jerry through an ad in a MoPar magazine.
Also, there use to be a web site run by a guy named Dave (Smith maybe) devoted only to 1961 Plymouth Suburbans. It was a cool site and he had the same picture on the site with an inquiry as to who owned it. I told him I had it. The site was developing nicely then just disappeared a number of years ago.
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Indeed, the Wagonmans Wagonland site was mine. That was back in my AOL days. Unfortunately it is long gone. I had the Robins egg blue Sport Suburban from 1997 thru 2000. It is now in Maryland owned by rob aka: Pistolgrip.
I was lured back here by Adriana. It looks like she has tracked down most of the ones I had found. I'll add some pics later as I am at work doing this now. SSSHHHH! LOL.
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Location: Connecticut | Ok, good news. I found my scrapbook and I still have some pics from the old wagonland website.
Here are 4 pics of Adriana's wagon I received from the previous owner 10 years ago.
Also a photo I took of a sweet wagon I found in a junkyard in Maricopa, Arizona in 1997. It looks like you could just drive it away! But the desert sun baked the interior to death. The square steering wheel disolved into dust went I reached in and grabbed it.
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Location: Australia | gees, i love that red and white wagon, sportsman with mascara inserts to boot! adore the colour scheme.... did you speak to chuck or carl? they sent me four pics [2 of the ones you posted and two others] they must have let it sit outside for a while cos the paint isnt nearly that red now... that such a shame about that white custom in the junk yard, that car looks in better cond than mine, except that someone took the headlight rings and taillight pods... cheers for the pics dave!! adriana |
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Location: Australia | do you have anymore pics of the red and white wagon? im in love with it! was it a 9 seater?? adriana |
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Location: Connecticut | suburban61 - 2008-10-09 7:56 PM
do you have anymore pics of the red and white wagon? im in love with it! was it a 9 seater?? adriana
Yes I do. I'll scan them in tomorrow morning. Can't say for sure if it was a 9 passenger or not. As far as I can tell, the easiest way to tell if it has the rear seat is by the rear assist grab handles and the black rubber step pads on the bumper. So if that is the case it probably does. |
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Location: Connecticut | suburban61 - 2008-10-09 7:48 PM
did you speak to chuck or carl? they sent me four pics [2 of the ones you posted and two others] they must have let it sit outside for a while cos the paint isnt nearly that red now... ... cheers for the pics dave!! adriana
I don't recall which of them I emailed with. It was 10 years ago after all!
I have alot more pics to scan and upload. I received alot of pics from the owner (then) of the coral and white wagon. Some nice interior pics too.
I have more pics of the white and green Custom suburban. The owner then was in California. That wagon is now on the East coast on Long Island. I see it at local car shows.
There was also a fairly rough wagon in Canada too. I couldn't find that Dutch export catalog. I might have resold it on ebay after I sold my wagon. I did have a copy of the "Fix your Plymouth" book too. I do remember selling that on ebay. Maybe you bought it? LOL
I do have a very rare advertisement that was only published as a Sunday insert. It is a big multi page foldout showing all the Mopar wagons for 1961. The centerfold shows all the wagons parked in a big circle with a great view in front of a blue and white sport suburban. It is too big to scan, so i'll have to take a digital picture of it.. Right now it is framed and hanging on a wall. I did check out your pics of what you have collected so far and didn't see it.
I have boxes of car brochures, so I'll have to keep digging to see what else I have.
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Location: Australia | yeah the only way i can tell about the 9 pass' are the black foot steps on the bumper, the only 9 pass wagon ive seen is the turquoise pizza hut wagon- which was a sportsman [pretty rough and rusty]. is it the detroit free press supplement? cos i thats what i just bought on ebay, it has pics of the wagons in it, and a red wagon to boot! [i reakon were talking about the same one...] i bought my fix your plymouth book of ebay from 'yardsalequeen.com' so im guessing that it wasnt from you, lol... does the dutch brochure hav a grey cover with a white coupe and a black chrysler? [i saw a brochure like that on ebay once, maybe it was yours... ] cheers adriana
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Location: Australia | found a pic of the brochure... see above... its probably the pic from your auction... dont know why i didnt buy it if it only went for $14.00???? it was ages ago tho.... oh well, adriana |
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Location: Connecticut | suburban61 - 2008-10-10 2:44 AM
is it the detroit free press supplement? cos i thats what i just bought on ebay, it has pics of the wagons in it, and a red wagon to boot! [i reakon were talking about the same one...].. does the dutch brochure hav a grey cover with a white coupe and a black chrysler? [i saw a brochure like that on ebay once, maybe it was yours... ] cheers adriana
Yes! That is the fold out advert. Those are very hard to find.
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Location: Connecticut | suburban61 - 2008-10-09 7:56 PM
do you have anymore pics of the red and white wagon? adriana
Ok, I found two more of that wagon.
They are not the best quality however.
It is a nice "Sport Suburban" with the square steering wheel.
I don't like the extra trim around the headlamps. Looks too garrish.
The seat material looks to be in good shape.
I wish I had written notes on the back of the pics.
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This is a postcard I found. It isn't from the factory, but from a car museum.
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Location: Australia | that red and white wagon appears to be in a car yard or storage yard, i love it i love it i love it!! astro wheel and a red padded dash also.... yeah i would have thought that brochure would be worth a hell of a lot more than $14, but thats what it must have sold for... i have the pic of that yellow '61, but didnt know it was a postcard... i would love to paint my sub, the maize yellow like the postcard '61! both those wagons seats appear to be in real good order, i really like the '61 fabric.... my wagon appears to have the '60 fabric.... cheers adriana |
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Location: Connecticut | Adriana,
You might still be able to buy NOS fabric to recover your seats. Back when I had my wagon I ordered some original fabric from a company in Hemmings Motor News. I am pretty sure it was Original Auto Interiors, inc.
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Location: Australia | i was under the impression from what i had read that the coral custom was an all original never touched car... but judging by the pics you posted dave, it has at least had a re-spray... fabulous pics tho, keep em coming... adriana :] |
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Location: Connecticut | Here is my wagon back in 2003 when I ran into a friend with his 1961 Dodge on Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
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Location: Connecticut | suburban61 - 2008-10-13 7:15 AM
i was under the impression from what i had read that the coral custom was an all original never touched car... but judging by the pics you posted dave, it has at least had a re-spray... fabulous pics tho, keep em coming... adriana :]
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Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Pretty sweet looking coral wagon although there's nothing I can see in the pictures to indicate it has had a respray.
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Location: Connecticut | This white "Custom Suburban with Green roof was in California when I first met its owner. Today it now has a different owner and is on Long Island, NewYork.
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Location: Connecticut | I don't remember much about this wagon either. But the license plate indicates it was in Quebec Canada.
The door panel design appears to be different on this wagon than the other "Customs" or "Sport" Suburbans.
It looks well equipped. Third seat too judging by the rear step pads.
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Location: Australia | hey dave,... i love love love love the dealership photos! that torquoise and white wagon was the first pic i found... the candian wagon seems to have '60 plymouth door trims and im surprised the seats arent in a '60 plymouth fabric also... its owner must have had a thing for the '61's cos i can see three others in the photos also... poor things seen better days though.... the photos are great keep em coming! cheers adriana :] |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | I haven't read every post in this thread, and someone may have already commented on this, but do you all realize that the 1962 Chrysler wagons used the 61 Plymouth wagon body with revised tail lights, and a Chrysler front clip bolted on ? For 1963 and 1964 they revised the sheet metal slightly and re-worked the tail lights again. I submit the evidence, below ! - Black car is 1962 , whitish car is 1964. Some of the 64 Chrysler New Yorker wagons came with a pretty awesome, optional interior that included front bucket seats and a console borrowed from the 300 - not sure if any other wagon makes ever offered a console / bucket seat interior.
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Location: Connecticut | That is mostly true Ian. The 62-64 wagons however used the NYR bodys hardtop roof and frameless windows. The 61 Plymouth had full framed windows thus were "posted" models vs "Hardtops".
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | DavidinHartford - 2008-10-16 6:02 PM That is mostly true Ian. The 62-64 wagons however used the NYR bodys hardtop roof and frameless windows. The 61 Plymouth had full framed windows thus were "posted" models vs "Hardtops". But you are correct in the rear ends. Other than revised tail lights and tailgate trim, you could swap out the rear bumpers as they are the exact same ones. David, Yes I know the Plymouth wagons were sedans as opposed to hardtops, but I was just making the point that the basic body was identical. So what do you make of this 1960 Plymouth hardtop wagon ? Someone went to a lot of trouble to do this .
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Location: Australia | we discussed the 62 chrysler wagons back in the thread... and also the interchanging body panels, etc. nothing beats the '61 plym wagons tho, adriana :] |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Ian, that '60 Plymouth is really a white bore (rare) and I know that's some serious work to convert a sedan to a HT. I just love it. I can imagine the car in a 3-tone green paint |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | suburban61 - 2008-10-16 6:32 AM
hey dave,... i love love love love the dealership photos! that torquoise and white wagon was the first pic i found... the candian wagon seems to have '60 plymouth door trims and im surprised the seats arent in a '60 plymouth fabric also... its owner must have had a thing for the '61's cos i can see three others in the photos also... poor things seen better days though.... the photos are great keep em coming! cheers adriana :]
Canadian-built 1961 Plymouths used Dodge Dart seat upholstery and door panels along with the Plymouth instrument panel, as did the Canadian-built 1961 Dodge Dart. For 1962, the Canadian-built Plymouth and Dodge Dart models used the Dart instrument panel along with the Dart interior trim. The Canadian 1962 Plymouths even had Dodge's 'fratzog' on the instrument panel and the door panels. In mid-year Chrysler of Canada offered bucket seats on Fury and Dart 440 models - buckets taken from the Polara 500.
Things returned to normal with Plymouth interiors for 1963.
Also, Chrysler of Canada did not offer the Sport Suburban in Canada from 1961 through 1965. 1960 Plymouths and Darts did not have the Custom Suburban, but did have Suburban and Sport Suburban models.
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Location: Connecticut | Ian,
That green 60 hardtop wagon is awsome! If it were mine though I'd paint the accent area ahead of the front wheels white or even light green. And the roof too. |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | wizard - 2008-10-16 10:42 PM Ian, that '60 Plymouth is really a white bore (rare) and I know that's some serious work to convert a sedan to a HT. I just love it. I can imagine the car in a 3-tone green paint Sven, what do you mean, by " White bore " ? |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Sorry Ian, seems like I slipped on the keyboard - It's an expression translated from Italian, a white boar is an albino and those are really rare ! |
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Dave! Hey bud, it's good to see you on here! How is everything going? I haven't messed with the wagon in quite a while, just tryin to finish the garage! Adriana, just wanted to sey hello to you too! I haven't been on the board in a while! Keep the pics and info commin'! Keep in touch!
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Ian,
That green 60 hardtop wagon is awsome! If it were mine though I'd paint the accent area ahead of the front wheels white or even light green. And the roof too. |
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Location: Connecticut | Hey Rob!
Howsit going? Adriana wrote to me and hooked me up with this site. It sure is nice to see that there are new people still enthused by the 61 Plymouths. Seeing all these pics sure makes me miss the old blue wagon. I can't believe it's been 10 years already. Time flies. I can remember the day I saw and picked up the wagon like it was yesterday. The first stop I made after I left the guys house was to a gas station. As I filled the wagon up I didn't realize that tens of gallons were pouring out the tank and spilling across the stations driveway the other direction! The Station manager came running out screaming and waving his arms "Stop!" Apparently the previous owner had pulled the tank out to be resealed and they hadn't reconnected the filler neck properly. So as the tank filled to the top it then poured out the neck under the fender.
I found the reciept in the glovebox for the tank reseal and ended up bringing the car over there next. Of course that meant leaving the car overnight and having to return to CT without the wagon.
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Location: Australia | hello rob, welcome back! alot has happened here since you were last on... lol... dave that story is a bit embarrassing... if that was me i would have been pissing myself laughing when i realised... although it is a rather dangerous and costly situation... id best check my tank [havent put any petrol init since ive had it] hey, had someone around to look at my Sub about body work tonight... if everything goes to plan, it should be in the shop just after christmas... yay!! cheers adriana |
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Location: Australia | VAUGHAN, CALLING VAUGHAN!! hows your sub going... havent seen any progress pictures and did you find the pic of it back in the 60's outside the funeral home? keep us updated.... a friednd just got back from new zealand and asked if you know someone called, mikemopar or moparmike? cheers adriana |
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Great story Dave! I'll have to add that to the "archives"! |
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Location: Fairbanks, Alaska | hey this my first time on this site i have a 61 plymouth Sport Suburban that im rebuilding |
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Location: Australia | pictures! pictures! we would love some pics... if your not sure how to post them... email me some as an attachment and ill downsize and load them up here for you... by the way im so happy your gonna bring another one back to life... and the sportsmans are the top of line model... is it a 6 or 9 seater? if you need any help or info im happy to help you out as much as i can, as you may have gathered i absolutely adore these wagons and have a slight obsession that i may or may not need to get help for!! lol... cheers adriana :] |
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| HMMMMM, thought all red interior '61 Plymouths had black steering wheels and columns? That apparently is not the case here, as the pictured red interior car has a red wheel and column.
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Location: Australia | rob, the centre of the astro wheels usually matched the interior/ dash colour... ive seen them in red, black, even brown... but the standard wheels i have not seen in red, only black and a turqouise colour.... i guess it just depends... not sure, adriana |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | Rob - 2008-10-26 3:46 PM
HMMMMM, thought all red interior '61 Plymouths had black steering wheels and columns? That apparently is not the case here, as the pictured red interior car has a red wheel and column.
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It's a Canadian 1961 Plymouth and the Canadian parts book does list a red steering wheel for Plymouth and Dodge Dart.
Also saw a red 1961 Plymouth Fury 2-door hardtop at a car show in Seattle about 5-6 years ago - red exterior with red interior with a red steering wheel and column.
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Location: Australia | pics of kyle's suburban.... and whats great is its one we havent already found!! cheers adriana :]
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Location: Connecticut | I came across another wagon pic. This one was just outside of Albany Newyork. This was taken at least 10 years ago. It was pretty rough then. It was sitting pretty low in the dirt. Note the twin spot lights.
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Location: Australia | like i said parts car is your best bet and will worjk out chgeapest in the long run... did you get the info i sent you? adriama |
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Location: Scotland | well adriana since i'm getting the blame for pinching all your '61 plymouth wagon postcards i'd better make up by dedicating a wee tune to you http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IpSK1BnjdGw |
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Location: Australia | thats cool... cant say the song is too flash, but its worth putting up with to see the Sub.... wonder if its the same red & white one that dave posted pics of? by the way vedette i did say that if i am to be out bidded im glad it was you.... hope you didnt take offence.... thanks for the clip.... adriana |
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Location: Australia | oh how i would love to add this one to my fleet, but sadly that wont be happening....
id plate states its a 'sportsman', but it has original 'custom' side trim, and is a 9 seater (only available on the 'sportsman' models, and rare as) so a little bit of a mystery, maybe special order?
coral and alpine white, 318, electric tailgate, deflectors (rare option), fury bar... hopefully someone restores this one to its former glory.... only just passed $1000us.... a steal at that price... cheers adriana
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Location: Vancouver, BC | The car is a 1961 Plymouth Custom Suburban (Belvedere) but it is not a Sportsman. Plymouth never used the Sportsman name. That was used by DeSoto for its 1950-59 hardtops and by Dodge Trucks for their van-based wagons.
The VIN, 3617184942, decodes as :
3 - Plymouth V8
6 - wagon - medium-price - Custom *
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184942 - 84,942nd 1961 car off the St.Louis line.
Plymouth did offer a Sports Suburban, with Fury interior and exterior trim, but it was not offered as a 2-door model. The 2-door wagon did not have a special name and was offered one last time for 1961 in the base Suburban (Savoy) series. Previous years had a 2-door wagon in the mid Custom Suburban series. 2,464 2-door Suburban wagons were built fro 1961.
1961 Custom Suburban production consisted of 13,553 2-seat and 6,355 3-seat models. The high-priced Sport Suburban saw 2,844 2-seat and 3,088 3-seat wagons. The base Suburban series also produced 12,980 2-seat wagons. Sport Suburban wagons and Suburban 2-seat wagons were built only in the U.S. while Chrysler of Canada also offered a base Suburban 3-seat wagon - 74 built.
* - The classifications for the series/body style VIN digit -
1 - low-priced non-wagon models
2 - medium-priced non-wagon models
3 - high-priced non-wagon models
4 - sport non-wagon models
5 - low-priced wagon models
6 - medium-priced wagon models
7 - high-priced wagon models
8 - taxi
9 - police
0 - fleet
Plymouth did not offer a "4" model in 1960-61.
It is not a "radio delete" car as 1961 Plymouths did not come with radios as standard equipment. It is simply a car ordered without the optional radio. That bar on the front bumper was optional, sales code 344.
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Location: Australia | i have seen the top of the range wagons refered to as both 'sportsman suburban' and 'sports suburban'.... the bottom of the range wagon is called 'deluxe' and this is the model that was offered as a two-door.
i am so embarrassed, i checked the chrysler standards catalogue and yes there were 9 passenger custom suburbans produced, only available in V8, their production number is unknown, shows that reading vintage magazines can give you false information...
its the only 9 pass custom suburban i've ever seen none the less....
i am so sorry next time i will check & double check before i open my mouth... sorry everyone.... adriana
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Adriana... you've become a star in your own right... you don't need to apologise for getting confused with all the internet garbage that's about...
Just to show how silly things get, ask someone who 'knows' about S4 Holdens. Ask them what differed between a regular Holden and an S4. Bet you hear some utterly stupid things!
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What is the best way to convert my wagon to disc brakes on the front, bearing in mind I live in New Zealand?
Vaughan, there are lots of ways, but basically the best way to do it is scour around the wreckers and find a disc that will adapt easily to your hubs. Then get some steel plate, about 3/8" is good, and get it bored and drilled and tapped to suit your 'spindles' or 'uprights' and a suitable caliper.
Suggest you look at discs from a Valiant first, the late ones, VH, VK, CL etc, then maybe go with a 4-pot caliper from some large 4WD, Toyota Landcruiser is popular for this purpose here, though you need to reduce disc diameter for that, something I don't like, or space the caliper out a bit and grind a bit out of the gap.
One more thing that I've noticed with all the pics on this thread... the continuation of the 'reversed fin' theme (as exemplified on the '61 Dodges) in the trim at the rear of these Suburbans.
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Location: Australia | thankyou, but feel like an idiot... sure ray, i dont mind if you invite yourself, lol... its goin into the panel shop early january (thats if i have no more set backs) but your welcome to come see it before or after it gets back, you can check out dads mopar wheels also... cheers adriana |
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | I will invite myself, Adriana... no question of it...
You've got to admit, apart from your wagon being unique in Australia, you are too! Name any other 19 year old girl whose first car is a Forward Look machine she's dreamed about for years... you won't find any anywhere!
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Location: Australia | my first car was an ap6 actually, but suburban (oscar) is the first car ive fully owned & paid for myself... and i love oscar
can someone tell me if they made any tv commercials for the '61 plymouths? i cant find any... i found a lovely one for the '60 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkVdYJ0stM&feature=related
and every other year i might add, but never any for '61.... i have to say im starting to like the '60 plymouths too adriana
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Location: NY & VT | Adrianna, have you seen the Leave It To Beaver episodes where Ward drives up in his '61 Plymmie? ... I'm sure they're on YouTube someplace. He had other years of Plyms as well!
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Adriana has made much mention of the 'mascara' here... I reckon that would be a very valuable addition to these cars...
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | hi there adriana, ive been a bit busy lately and havnt got to the puter much, will put some pics on next week as mine is being used in my mates wedding next weekend so i am finishing at the moment, will get pics off my other puter so can see mine when basically new out side funeral home in the bottom of the south island of new zealand , mine has different interior than other 61s on here, i put some pics of my dash and interior on here but not sure where, will be back soon.
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Location: Australia | hello vaughan...
check out this site (if you havent seen it already...) http://www.kustomklassics.com/61plymouth.html, looks like yours, even has the same seat coverings, and was a hearse also... would love to see the pics of your wagon now its done... did you hunt down any headlight rings? my dads mates daughter is getting married in NZ next weekend, how funny would it be if it was the wedding your involved with... keep the updates coming... cheers adriana |
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Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | back again , had a last minute panic getting it done but i used my 61 in a mates wedding last weekend, boys in mine and the girls in the grooms 73 satelite, also there is a picture for you adriana of mine outside the funeral home that brought it in to nz in 61, not to sure what year the photo was taken but your old man might know from how old the holden is in the pic, havent put the front trim back on yet but is good to be dring it again  cheers, vaughan
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Location: Australia | fabulous vaughan... still no headlight rings? whats the story with the chrome that meant to be around the back side windows & the plymouth letters off the tailgate, doesnt even look like it was on it in the old photo... what a great old photo, they even had a 4-door sedan (this is the kind of funeral home i wish to go to when i die....) did you look at the hearse in the link that i emailed you, its almost the twin of your sub... do you have pics of your sub with the wedding ribbons on?? do you still have your original hubcaps? i like the plates by the way... cheers adriana |
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Awesome '61 wagon at the Mopar Show at Atlanta Motor Speedway May 2009:
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Location: Australia | oh my goodness! you have made my day h-bomb!!!!! STUNNING!!!!!!
i wonder what the original colour was? maybe it was airforce blue and they changed the tone slightly... i think this is the 2-door i saw about a year ago in i think mopar action or mopar muscle magazine... there was only a small pic, and im still kicking myself for not buying the $14.95 magazine... if anyone has the mag im talking about ill buy it off you if you wish to part with it or just if someone knows what issue it was... do you have the contact details of the owner.... that colour is just devine... any inside shots?
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Location: Johns Creek, Georgia | I thought you'd get a kick out of this one. My buddy Pete and I were talking about the car while were at the show and I said "Adriana's gonna flip over this one."
The car was built by a guy in Tennessee who has a shop called "Chuck's Hot Rods," or something along those lines.
The two pics above are the only two I took. Pete took a couple as well, but we both neglected to take any of the interior. The car is a four-speed, by the way.
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Location: NY & VT | You sound like you're in the same dilemma (sp?) as me with regards to painting your own car Adriana - keep changing my mind, just can't decide! there's so many great colors! Did you ever see a '61 plym in Lavender Metallic? pale purple metallic color...check out the actual color chip of it... WOW! I was going to do my '61 Belvy in that. |
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Location: Australia | no i have not... ive seen the johan promo coupe models in that colour... i guess it was just a little flamboyant in its day, lol... i did see a small pixelated thumbnail pic of a purple ragtop in scandinavia/ finland somewhere, alas i think it was undercoat purple not original purple... ive not seen a suburban either in carnival red so i keep resorting back to the original colour... im so indecisive, what ever i end up deciding i will probably not be happy with anyway so i guess just stick with original and that way i can just blame the original owner... lol... hows your plymmies new owner getting along anyhow? cheers adriana |
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Location: NY & VT | Adriana, Broderick's (he's named for Broderick Crawford, the star of Highway Patrol) new owner in Texas, Eric, got the 361 HP (High Perfomance) engine running well no problem, and it now sports police car Blcak & White! It's far from the pale purple that I'd have done (flashy color for a flashy car!) so he's no longer undercover, it's a patrol car now! ... just PM christinesbro here and I'm sure he'll send you a pic!
Original 1961 Plymouth paint chips by the paint manufactuers DuPont, Ditzler, Duco etc are readily available on eBay for from $5-10 and well worth having to see the actual color (they spray an actual sample of the factory paint on the chip), to add to the literature that goes with your year car, and helpful for deciding what color to paint it!
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Location: Australia | oh, thats who owns it now... yeah i have paint chips here, one of the first things i bought... theres a few colours that are rarely or never seen... maize yellow? silver gray metallic? bronze metallic? airforce blue? (this is the colour daves sub was and i persume the new 2door is/ was) oh how i wish i had one of those dealership stands where you could slip the colours behind the car and see what the coupe would look like in a certain colour and a draw of interior fabric samples... someday i will track on down... cheers adriana |
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Location: DFW, TX | Adriana, this is the '61 Suburban located in Montana that I mentioned many pages back. 
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Location: Australia | yeah that one is at fremans auto... he emailed me pics and now its on ebay... i love it! coral sports suburban with mascara inserts someone should save this one... a few sports have been coming out of the wood work of late... cheers adriana |
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Location: Australia | time to dust of this thread and update it... well i found a couple of the owners of subs on this thread... wade who owns the turquoise/ white one... michael who owns the stunning all original coral one and scott who owns the coral custom 9 seater sub... so welcome... cheers adriana
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Location: Australia | i thought it about time to resurface this thread and update it on the latest 1961 plymouth suburban discoveries... please add pics of any new ones you have seen lately cheers adriana
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Location: Georgia | Here are two from Georgia, the first from a private 'collection' way down south, and the second wagon from a boneyard in Lafayette, GA.
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Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza - 2010-04-23 1:45 PM
Here are two from Georgia, the first from a private 'collection' way down south, and the second wagon from a boneyard in Lafayette, GA.
thanks... i had pics of the top one, just realised i forgot to post pics... the bottom one i hadn't seen before, strange a sports wagon with a manual tailgate crank... are you able to get the VIN and Dataplate by anychance or have the contact details for the yard? looks very complete, wonder how rusty it is?
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Location: St. Louis, MO. USA | If Adriana is not interested I can sure use the front end trim pieces on mine!
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the order sheet. And how about the blue, hood-mounted barrels ? Those really dress a car up, don't they !
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Location: Australia | its only because i hunt high and low for them... if someone did this much searching for another specific type of wagon you'd probably get the same results... there does seem to be more coming out the wood work lately however... i guess people are starting to see that wagons actually are liked and desirable to own... adriana |
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Location: Australia | right... well i have made a 1961 plymouth suburban facebook group... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119883064703533&ref=ts
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Location: Scotland | here's a hip video for our new hippy adriana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_mmt88NwI
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oh... i am not a hippy! i dont even like the song just the car... adriana
thank you for reposting!
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Location: Australia | hello mark! i am so glad someone rescued that suburban! the seller was very uncooperative with me when he had it on craigslist... it was all sort of dismantled, i wanted t buy it as my daily driver, as it looked good from what i could see in the bad photos... but at least someone has it! did you have to do much to it when you got it? what engine does it have? if you would like your VIN and Dataplate decoded feel free to PM me the numbers and ill get back to you with the info... savoy plaza, you can post your wagon on here also! i have a few more to add here also... adriana |
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My buddy spotted this on craigslist, I had to laugh as the car was literally two miles from my house. It had an old school 360 that didn't run just laying in it. Really great shape though. New rechromed read bumper, the floors are solid, the only rust is to the lower portion or the read tailgate. I have a middle 80's slant six and several early sixties push button auto's. If I could find a good tailgate I would buy it. I really love these cars, can't wait to get it back on the road... won't be long.... |
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Location: Georgia | Wow, I feel honored to have my wagon in this thread!
For what it's worth, here's my 2-door Suburban. I'm so happy to have found one, I want to show her to the world, but alas, with this crazy paint on her, it's kinda like telling everyone you finally married Jayne Mansfield, and then have her show up wearing a burlap raincoat! 
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i saw your email on the '61 blog, rob. didnt realise it was you.... anyway glad you like the photos. how bad is the red, yuk! yeah, ive emailed smitty regarding the mascara inserts he has on one of the fury coupes that he is wrecking but have recieved no answer as yet. cant wait for the '61 plymouth website to be up and running! i have heaps of ads here if you want to do a page on advertising/ sales literature! let us all know when it is up im sure it'll get a few hits! was that coral wagon pic that i posted, the one that you guys were talking about? cheers adriana
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Location: Blythewood, SC | SavoyPlaza - 2010-10-21 4:59 PM
Wow, I feel honored to have my wagon in this thread!
For what it's worth, here's my 2-door Suburban. I'm so happy to have found one, I want to show her to the world, but alas, with this crazy paint on her, it's kinda like telling everyone you finally married Jayne Mansfield, and then have her show up wearing a burlap raincoat!
I will be returning her to a more original appearance, but here she is today!
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Location: Georgia | Thanks, Brain!
Thanks, too, Mark for the brochures, very nice.
Now I could use a little help from a '61 Suburban fan.
My wagon is lacking the 'Plymouth' lettering on the tailgate, and I've found some Plymouth emblem letters for sale on LeBay, my question is if these are the lettering for the '61 tailgate?
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Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza - 2010-11-17 8:41 AM
Thanks, Brain!
Thanks, too, Mark for the brochures, very nice.
Now I could use a little help from a '61 Suburban fan.
My wagon is lacking the 'Plymouth' lettering on the tailgate, and I've found some Plymouth emblem letters for sale on LeBay, my question is if these are the lettering for the '61 tailgate?
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Location: Georgia | Thank you, Adriana! I went ahead a bought the letters, and they are really nice. Although the seller was merely cleaning out her father's stock of parts and only knew the letters were marked "1961 Plymouth", they do appear to be correct.
Now I must ask for more assistance from a '61 Suburban owner.
Could someone make for me a paper template for the location of the tailgate letters?
Or at least give me some detailed measurements?
The previous owner 'shaved' the letters off, and did a fine job of filling the holes, so fine I can't get a definitive location for them!
Any assistance would be mucho appreciated, pm me for any details. Thank you!
This picture is just for reference, although I'd love to have the Sonoromic emblem!!
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Location: Australia | Weedy01 - 2010-10-22 12:24 AM
I found some things tonight, might interest some... I have two promo cars, I never have figured out if they had a wagon promo car???
no Johan wagon promo for 1961... they did make the Revell HO scale '61 chrysler corp set, which includes a '61 2door wagon. you could get the set assembled, get it to not assemble (which was also reissued by heiji), and could also get the '61 wagon boxed seperately. there are also the ICHIKO tin plate '61 suburbans, YOSHI also made one, which is not as accurate as the ICHIKOs... and now you can get the '61 suburban resin model... hope this helps... they made the 1:43 (?) Johan promo model for the '60 suburban... i'll take some pics if you like... or check out collection in the album section... adriana
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Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza - 2010-11-24 10:14 AM
Thank you, Adriana! I went ahead a bought the letters, and they are really nice. Although the seller was merely cleaning out her father's stock of parts and only knew the letters were marked "1961 Plymouth", they do appear to be correct.
Now I must ask for more assistance from a '61 Suburban owner.
Could someone make for me a paper template for the location of the tailgate letters?
Or at least give me some detailed measurements?
The previous owner 'shaved' the letters off, and did a fine job of filling the holes, so fine I can't get a definitive location for them!
Any assistance would be mucho appreciated, pm me for any details. Thank you!
This picture is just for reference, although I'd love to have the Sonoromic emblem!!
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Location: Georgia | Here's an ad from the Saturday Evening Post, September 16, 1961.
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Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza, I only found that ad a few months ago on ebay and couldn't believe it... Hence I bought it and love it! I have a cool ad for life insurance I think it is, with the front end of a '61 suburban and a guy bending over the hood washing it with a bucket of soapy water... Adriana |
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Location: Dayton, Oh | Old thread but wanted my old car documented. 61 Plymouth Fury Wagon Golden Commando. It was my first car. I bought it for $50 when I was 15 from the original owner who used it as a shop car for his body shop. It had been sitting for about 3 years when I bought it. It had a 361 with a carter 4V. I stored it in my parents barn while I was in the military then sold it around 89. A few years ago a co-worker said he thought he saw it in a junkyard south of Dayton. Several months later I went to the yard to find it. It was nowhere to be seen. A regular to the yard said it might have been crushed when a company contracted by the yard crushed several cars by mistake. so here's the only pics I have of it.
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Location: Dayton, Oh | 69stang - 2015-03-06 8:47 AM
Old thread but wanted my old car documented. 61 Plymouth Fury Wagon Golden Commando. It was my first car. I bought it for $50 when I was 15 from the original owner who used it as a shop car for his body shop. It had been sitting for about 3 years when I bought it. It had a 361 with a carter 4V. I stored it in my parents barn while I was in the military then sold it around 89. A few years ago a co-worker said he thought he saw it in a junkyard south of Dayton. Several months later I went to the yard to find it. It was nowhere to be seen. A regular to the yard said it might have been crushed when a company contracted by the yard crushed several cars by mistake. so here's the only pics I have of it.
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Location: Georgia | Will you look at that! A one-piece frontend on a 2-door wagon no less!
Hessu explain yourself!
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Hi. Just making fiberglass mold from stw. Front end and doors are ready. Hope have time this summer take mold rest of car. Plan make full chassis(sfi25.1) 2D STW drag car. orginal car will just restore to street use.
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Location: little rock, AR | I just found this thread so here is my Air Force Blue. Motor was locked up so I'm going to transplant a '62 Imperial 413 and trans since I have the rebuild parts in another Imp. Going with a '60 Aero Wheel and swivel. Very solid except for the 3rd row seat floor. I used some Very clean '60 HL rings. I have a '61 Aero wheel For sale and some chrome for a base model suburban. It starts at the rear door and turns the corner. VERY nice chrome for a base model sub. I( was in a salvage yard and found a '61 Wagon. Pulled the rear tailgate letters, gas tank with great sending unit, Headliner bows and clips and some great chrome. It was a /6 with 3 onda tree.
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