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Posted 2008-01-20 9:12 PM (#111659)
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I went and got that '57 Chrysler today, I'm as excited about a car as I've probably ever been! Looking at it more closely this time, with a more critical eye (money is about to change hands after all!) I was glad to see that it really is as solid and rust-free as I remember it being. Interior is pretty awful but that sheetmetal more than makes up for it.

Here's a teaser pic for now, I haven't had a chance to clean it up yet. Let me give it a bath and I'll give you all some more detailed pictures tomorrow. This is a fairly un-molested example, so if anyone is wanting pictures of specific parts for their restoration, I'll be happy to take as many as you like.

Enough gloating! Here's your one picture!



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Posted 2008-01-20 9:47 PM (#111661 - in reply to #111659)
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Anyone know how to decode a '57 Chrysler trim tag? hehehe

UHU looks like Deep Rust Poly on the roof and spear and a Mist Gray main body. It's probably not going back to factory colors!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:22 PM (#111664 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats Danny!!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:22 PM (#111665 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats Danny!!

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:44 PM (#111667 - in reply to #111659)
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Wow. Just wow.

Take heed of your incredible luck, Danny. What an awesome find.
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Posted 2008-01-20 10:45 PM (#111668 - in reply to #111665)
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Awesome car ! Here's the breakdown of your dataplate:

Paint mist gray (H); deep ruby (U

361 manual antenna

328 power windows

326 six-way power seat

343 fender ornaments

344 a/c

349 dual headlights

331 vanity mirror

335 mirror - left side

334 mirror - tilt type

321 radio - electro touch tuner

322 rear shelf speaker

323 heater - custom conditionaire

265 ?

332 solex glass

325 power brakes

324 rear window defogger 

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Posted 2008-01-20 10:48 PM (#111670 - in reply to #111659)
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And loaded to boot.

Danny, you'd better keep her - I can guarantee that there'll never be another one like her to come across so easy.....
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Posted 2008-01-20 11:03 PM (#111672 - in reply to #111670)
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Ron - thank you so much for decoding that! How would I get those codes myself? I'm also interested in production numbers and such. I'll dig around tomorrow to see if I find a build sheet under the rear seat or taped to the glove box.

Mark - don't worry bud, it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Posted 2008-01-20 11:29 PM (#111674 - in reply to #111659)
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Right on, Danny.

And on the 30th Anniversary of the Tulsa reunion, I hope to see you there with the '57 when I pull up in my well-preserved '55 Fireflite Coronado. That baby's gonna be a lifer with me.
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Posted 2008-01-21 12:02 AM (#111677 - in reply to #111672)
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57burb - 2008-01-20 11:03 PM How would I get those codes myself?

They came from Wayne Graefen's 1957 Chrysler 300C Handbook. Codes are the same for all 57 Chryslers, however. 

If you want to contact Wayne, his email is: wgraefen (at) WINDSTREAM.NET. 

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Posted 2008-01-21 10:01 AM (#111699 - in reply to #111659)
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That car, in that condition, with those options, is a candidate for restoration. Had you found a cheapo, low/no option model, you could put it back together with your own custom touchs...but a car like THAT car is capable of becoming a high value restoration...IF put back to Factory original (Data Plate) condition. That car, in that condition, is a rare find. Take your time with it, do a proper restoration to it (no matter HOW long it takes), and you will wind up with an investment...

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Posted 2008-01-21 12:07 PM (#111715 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats! Lookin' good!

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Posted 2008-01-21 12:41 PM (#111718 - in reply to #111659)
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I know I'm excited just seeing it on the trailer, and it's not even mine. We need more pictures.
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Posted 2008-01-21 12:43 PM (#111719 - in reply to #111718)
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Looking like a real good project, good luck and keep us posted.
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Posted 2008-01-21 5:50 PM (#111758 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks great. Is it single or dual headlight? I assume from the photoshops you posted you're thinking about going mild custom with it?
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Posted 2008-01-21 6:49 PM (#111768 - in reply to #111758)
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Car is dual headlight. Yes it will be a mild custom, meaning - nothing that a paint job and an SMS interior wouldn't "fix." I don't intend to cut it. And it will be a good investment no matter what I do with it. I'm not looking to make money on it - I want to have the car I've always wanted!

It is 45*F here with 15-20mph winds and rain, so I didn't do squat with the car today, except put some wheels on it.

But - the more I play with it, the more I LOVE this car!



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Posted 2008-01-22 2:02 AM (#111808 - in reply to #111659)
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Those wheels are a little "starting in the wrong end" but they are totally stunning on that car! Glad that you brought here home sound and safe.
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:36 AM (#111823 - in reply to #111768)
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remember its a 57(!) mopar. unrestored. i wouldn't leave it out in the rain (or wash it) longer than neccesarry
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:53 AM (#111825 - in reply to #111823)
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The old tires wouldn't hold air, and these were just laying around.

As for the car, it needs to be outside at this moment (unfortunately) and will be inside before the weekend. Don't worry, this car is going to be well looked after.
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Posted 2008-01-22 1:45 PM (#111855 - in reply to #111659)
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Absolutely Beautiful, Danny!

Congratulations on a GREAT-LOOKING ride.
(For whatever it's worth... I like the way it looks right now. Shiny wheels on a beautiful car with great patina.)

If I could ever the brakes & electricals on our '60 Chrysler figured out... I'd probably drive it around in the same condition for a while.

Enjoy it, Danny... A great find indeed!

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Posted 2008-01-22 2:18 PM (#111857 - in reply to #111659)
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Love the second shot, I think it will look awesome with a mild custom treatment.
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Posted 2008-01-22 2:53 PM (#111864 - in reply to #111857)
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Took some more pictures on my way out the door this morning, and just downloaded them. I put a couple of turns on the torsion bars last night but it was too dark to see. Also cleaned out the interior and trunk a bit, taking inventory of what is there and what is missing, what needs to be addressed, etc. Once I get a real handle on what is needed, I'll map out a project plan. For now - here's the newest pic I've got.



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Posted 2008-01-22 3:33 PM (#111869 - in reply to #111864)
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Congratulations on the ’57! Seems there is a nice clique of ’57 Chryslers on the list now. There is nothing quite as exciting as those first few days/weeks with a classic car, at least for me. Digging around under the seats and in the trunk, taking an inventory on parts you have, replacing the old belts/hoses, putting on new wheels, etc. Good times….enjoy!

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Posted 2008-01-22 4:40 PM (#111880 - in reply to #111825)
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57burb - 2008-01-22 3:53 AM

The old tires wouldn't hold air, and these were just laying around.

As for the car, it needs to be outside at this moment (unfortunately) and will be inside before the weekend. Don't worry, this car is going to be well looked after.


Ah how I wished that I had some nice wheels like that laying around - could'nt find the even if I dig up the complete lot here.
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Posted 2008-01-22 9:24 PM (#111924 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks like you got a great starting point. Have fun and good luck
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Posted 2008-01-23 1:46 AM (#111958 - in reply to #111659)
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If I could have found your 57 before I got my 56--I would have tried to own it ( I was looking!) Great find! what is the story behind it--how did you find it and where had it been to be in that good of condition? You are having some fun now!!!..................................MO
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Posted 2008-01-23 6:00 AM (#111963 - in reply to #111864)
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Wow, what a difference a little altitude adjustment makes !!!!
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Posted 2008-01-23 12:23 PM (#111983 - in reply to #111963)
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I actually found the car on my local craigslist, of all places.

I do a search for "1955" and go up through the years to "1961" (lol!) and this popped up under 1957. Good thing, as the original posting misspelled Chrysler. It was listed as a 2dr sedan and mentioned no price. The lady that owned it didn't know much about it, but loved how the car looked. She had taken it to a local restoration shop, but once she realized the $$$ involved, she decided she would sell it instead.

It appeared on craigslist at 8:30am, I emailed the seller at 1pm, and I drove to see it before 3pm that same day! I'm glad I did. The guy that runs the restoration shop really liked me, he could tell I liked the car and we talked for a long time about the business, cars and life in general. I didn't leave until 7pm.

Then I called the owner and said I really liked the car, I told her a lot about it. I told her it was incredibly rare and didn't lie about anything on the car, and made what I considered a fair offer. I couldn't match the $$ that someone had told her it was worth, someone at the Branson 1957 car museum had said it was probably a $20-25k car in unrestored condition. I told her I could not offer that and good luck in selling it, and then we just had a long conversation about things other than cars. She's a really interesting lady, she owns a few dance studios and is a huge collector of ... collectible things. I emailed her that night with the pictures I took (she had none) and a long list of information about the car, I told her if I couldn't buy it, then she should get top dollar for it! haha

Well after a few weeks, the guy from Branson said he couldn't give her that money for it (maybe she sent him my pictures!) and she had gotten a few other offers higher than mine. She needed money for her newest dance studio and she and the restoration guy really wanted me to have the car since I liked it so much. She told me what her top offer was and asked if I could match it. I said yes I could, and a deal was struck.

She said the car was sitting in a friend's backyard! It was bought new in Oklahoma by this other lady's aunt and she inherited it but didn't know what to do with the car.

In retrospect I probably didn't pay too much, you just don't see rock-solid 2dr HT ForwardLook Mopars going for cheap! Especially those that are arrow-straight with all their trim and 392 Hemis under the hood.

I feel blessed to have the car and to make a couple of new friends out of the deal. Hope this post wasn't too long, but I'm glad I got to tell the story. -Danny
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Posted 2008-01-23 1:11 PM (#111990 - in reply to #111983)
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...and it is great to hear the story. Look forward to many more pics as your project unfolds...

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Posted 2008-01-23 6:07 PM (#112035 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny , way to go on that score . That car looks like it is in incredible condition . Is it a secret or are you willing to share with us what you had to give for it ? If you don t , well thats o k too . Some people may think its being nosey , but I m just curious . Me personally , I have no idea what something like that is worth . I m way out of tune with the rising prices , cause I still look for them 1k -2k deals .

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Posted 2008-01-23 6:39 PM (#112041 - in reply to #111659)
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good find, ill go full custom with it, air suspension, dvd player, good rims, thousand of watts in the stereo system, custom interior and lot of chrome under the hood. Great proyect



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Posted 2008-01-23 6:48 PM (#112042 - in reply to #112035)
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Charlie, I'm always looking for deals like that too, but I got sick of going out and looking at cars that were really rough. I gave 1200 for my last car, the DeSoto that had no floors. But I got rid of it with the mind that I would put that money toward something really nice - at least really SOLID. Rust takes so much time effort and money to fix that it's worth paying more for the car to not have to deal with it.

This car is at the high end of what I could afford, but I knew I'd kick my own butt if I didn't do everything I could to get it. Guys here were telling me a fair price would be between $6-8k, and I'll just say it ended up in that range. Now that I've got it, looked it over, and let it sink in that it's mine, I think I paid a very fair price for the car. My dad said that's a lot of money for a car that doesn't run, lol.
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Posted 2008-01-23 6:52 PM (#112043 - in reply to #112042)
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Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in.
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Sweet!!!!! I love 57-58 Chryslers, ....rare in you finding one so solid as this one is!!! Good luck with her and welcome aboard/keep us posted on your progress.... Teffany.
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Yeah , I agree , with the time and money spent on chasing rust over the years , starting out with a solid car is a huge step in the rite direction And it will probably equate in a lower price completed restoration . I know I can speak for a lot of people here , We are happy for you with this rare find . That frontend on the 300 is that unique to the 300 only ?

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Posted 2008-01-24 1:01 PM (#112120 - in reply to #112041)
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that 300 sucks
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57burb I'm with you with the late fifties early sixties thing , if it was mine it would be royal blue with lighter blue scallops and chrome tape on the roof (maybe next time on the DeSoto ),I put dual quads and a mild cam on the 392 in my coupe it ran really strong and looks so tough .
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that 300 sucks


I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny
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That's gonna be a hell of a car... I like it as is even. Congrats and keep the pics a-comin.
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1960fury - 2008-01-24 7:01 AM

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I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny


The exterior looks ok, but when you redo the interior and especially replace the seats with new buckets then the car does not have the nostalgia feel and look anymore.... I would keep the interior stock and just get it re-apolstered.
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1960fury - 2008-01-24 7:01 AM

that 300 sucks


I'll second that opinion - looks like some amusement park ride - and it's not even funny


i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!

you should be glad another mopar survives, in ANY form. it may now live to fight another day, maybe even as a restored original, who knows.

if we blast one another, we only diminish the size of the group; the LARGEST group in the world dedicated to preserving the cars that you love! let's not try to run people off. we need everybody!
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i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!



unfortunatly true, nobody said he can't.


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i personally prefer original, but i think these comments are out of line. it's HIS d*am*n car, he can do what he wants with it!



unfortunatly true, nobody said he can't.




c'mon, sid. be a guy. if you don't like it, try something like, "i prefer original decor", as opposed to "that sux!"

i guarantee you, the owner likes it. i would prefer that he like US, as opposed to saying, "those snobby a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s suck! i'm outta here, to hell with 'em!"

i'm not saying you should change how you think, let's just be kind to our guests and fellow mopar fans. we are not chevrolet fans; there aren't enough of us as it is. we don't need to run people off.
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Posted 2008-01-24 8:09 PM (#112178 - in reply to #112174)
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you should be glad another mopar survives, in ANY form.

if we blast one another, we only diminish the size of the group; the LARGEST group in the world dedicated to preserving the cars that you love! let's not try to run people off. we need everybody!


you said PRESERVING these cars. is that what you call PRESERVING? look at that .... interior, if you're inside you could think you're in some new jap car. there is almost nothing left of 50s exner design. it's not just the outer skin that makes a forwardlook car a forwardlook car. these were tastefully designed by exner and his crew inside and out. these cars are works of art, everything fits together, FIFTIES style. all what's left of that garish 300 is the outer skin that still screams 50s (while the interior looks like from a new jap car) i don't call that preserving!

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59savoy - 2008-01-24 7:58 PM

[ we are not chevrolet fans; there aren't enough of us as it is. we don't need to run people off.


i prefer a chevrolet fan with style/taste over a mopar owner who did THAT :wince:looks like a coddington creation

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Posted 2008-01-24 8:30 PM (#112180 - in reply to #111659)
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Don't worry boys... that will never happen to my Chrysler.

Besides, I think we all know what happens when you piss off a Forward Look car!!



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Posted 2008-01-24 9:51 PM (#112192 - in reply to #111659)
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I've got to agree that the interior is ruined in that orange car. The outside is ok though, needs some different wheels.
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Posted 2008-01-25 8:32 AM (#112225 - in reply to #112180)
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57burb - 2008-01-24 6:30 PM

Don't worry boys... that will never happen to my Chrysler.

Besides, I think we all know what happens when you piss off a Forward Look car!! :stressed:


Ooh! What a silhouette!!!

I'll be an official member of the FL - and DeSoto - family soon enough, but Danny, every time I see pics of that 'new' '57 of yours, I get more and more green with envy.

That said, let me go on record here and now that when I get the '55 Fireflite Coronado in my driveway and start to bring her back, she's going to remain 95% original:

Outside of the 12V electric, modern A/C and sound system, she's going to be just as she was when Groucho talked about here and her siblings during the 8th season of "You Bet Your Life". She will retain her original tri-tone paint scheme in it's original combination and application; she will retain her original powerplant (and Powerflite); she will retain her original interior, right down to the black and white door panels with turquoise fabric inserts, along with her original white leather seats with turquoise cloth inserts and turquoise fabric on the front seat backing and, if I can find it, her original trunk lining/mat.

Somewhere down the line, there MAY be 2 other things I'd do to her: She presently has power steering, power brakes and 4-way power seat - I'd like to find the 12V power window works from a '56 and give her effortless, crank eliminating window lifts to complete the "ensemble". The other - and this would be WAY, WAY down the line since she presently has a full set of original wheel covers - would be to acquire a set of Kelseys for her. Whether it's the design of the wheel openings or what, those Kelseys just fit like a good pair of comfy old shoes on the 1st generation FLs.

Any way anyone could give out with a ballpark on what a full set of Kelsey-Hayes wires go for presently?

BTW, I'm with the consensus on the eyesore of a 300 C earlier in the thread. Sure, it's their car and to each their own, but you'll never find me getting a kick out of it - unless it's in the form of a recoil due to a hurl from the toenails.....
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i.e., the orange 300.

Dare I ask if an early '60s customizer would have done the same if the necessary items were available then?

That noted, I prefer the ambience of an original interior regardless of whatever is under the hood or body.

K.
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Oh, and at least it's unlikely the current owner of the orange custom will be butchering any nice Windsor, Saratoge or New Yorker survivors to cobble together a thoroughly thrashed and trashed 300C into a "matching numbers" trailer queen.

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57burb - 2008-01-23 6:52 PM

Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in.


I like the orange car, but this style is also far preferable in my eyes. I cant wait to see your progress.
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Posted 2008-01-25 2:00 PM (#112252 - in reply to #111659)
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What a wonderful buy... what a great project!

All the best with it. Keep the piccies rolling... and when it's done, drive it!
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Posted 2008-01-31 4:46 PM (#112999 - in reply to #112120)
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Sid - I couldn't agree more - it's like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa. I got rid of 300c vert because with 3 kids in college I couldn't restore it the way it deserved - all that leather, rechrome, hemi rebuild etc adds up. Could have used vinyl on seats dropped in a 440...rodders and derbiers have a lot to answer for in my opinion. Go trash something common, not a rare classic...you & I have similar taste ... btw lots of interest in the chair from Europa.

The 6-ish range does seem reasonable for a 2 dr hardtop in that shape, that model was one of the purest expressions of the Forward Look imo. Some great color combos were available that year too... gotta love that Salmon color.
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Posted 2008-02-01 2:39 AM (#113057 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, it will cost virtually the same money to restore your car, to OEM appearance, as it would, to hot-rod it, BUT, the car will be worth a LOT more, if you do the 'right' thing, and make it look stock!

And, (and, I am willing to debate this point with anyone here!), if you try to make the car look like a 'custom' model, all that you will succeed in doing is making the car LOOK cheap, or, as if its owner didn't know how to restore the car, so, he (had to) cut- corners and took the easy (Cheebie-) way out, in getting the car running.

Believe me (and others); you will ultimately get more satisfaction and pride out of effecting an OEM restoration, than if you put flames and metallic-paint on the car, and a tuck-and-rolled interior.

Adults drive adult cars, and, like-it-or-not: a New Yorker is an (affluent) ADULT's car.

Y'all go hot rod a Plaza sedan to your hearts' content; leave the NY'ers & IMPS to people who enjoy a luxurious prestigious automobile.





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Posted 2008-02-01 3:09 AM (#113062 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, I just went back and read the beginning of this thread.

First thing, MAN; that car is fully loaded, and the OEM colors are very attractive.

My suggestion is that if you are seriously interested in restoring the window operation, the power seat operation, the rear defroster operation, the air conditioner operation, and the signal-seeking radio operation, you should consider resoring the PAINT and interior 'operation', too.

That car is just TOO loaded, not to receive a full and complete restoration.

If it were a basket case, or a stripper model, you'd get no complaints from me, with hot-rodding its paint,interior,engine (440 6-pak) and suspension ( Cam- aro front end, right?) But, MAN: please, honor this car's survival and restore it correctly !

In the end, you'll be glad you did.




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Posted 2008-02-01 11:22 AM (#113087 - in reply to #113062)
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Neil.. it's just gonna be lowered and have non-original colors on it.

I agree with you wholeheartedly... the car "deserves" a perfect restoration. But for now, it's going to be my custom.

It won't be cut or chopped up or ruined. All the parts I don't use will be stored for later. Please don't fret, I won't ruin this car with wacky doo-dads or frenched antennas or canted headlights or Packard tail lights or anything like that. Torsion bars are staying, as are its 392 and pushbutton TF. It will be a snap to return to original when that day comes.

I'm not worried one bit about value.. I've been looking too long for a car like this to sell it.

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Posted 2008-02-01 1:40 PM (#113096 - in reply to #111659)
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Lower it,shave it,panel paint it ,chrome tape the roof,dual quads,glass packs,tuck'n'roll everywhere then drive the wheels off the thing ..................................you know it makes sense ( lol )
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My 56 Chrysler is a unusual one --and it deserves a restoration to original, even tho I don,t care for the factory color.. I made mine look custom without doing anything that couldn't easily be returned to stock--cause thats what I WANT for now. The interior is stock and the paint is epoxy primer. When the time comes, it will be easy to light sand and paint to original. ...................................MO
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Posted 2008-02-02 2:40 PM (#113238 - in reply to #111659)
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hey guys, I kind of stumbled across this forum and almost fell out of my chair on the 57 NYer project. I have the same thing going here in upstate new york. mine is a 4 door though. Anyone with info on a windshield for this I'd appreciate.
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My 56 Chrysler is a unusual one --and it deserves a restoration to original, even tho I don,t care for the factory color.. I made mine look custom without doing anything that couldn't easily be returned to stock--cause thats what I WANT for now. The interior is stock and the paint is epoxy primer. When the time comes, it will be easy to light sand and paint to original. ...................................MO
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Posted 2008-02-05 10:58 AM (#113547 - in reply to #111659)
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Great looking car, Steve! I don't think I've ever seen that trim/paint package before..
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Posted 2008-02-12 10:46 AM (#114653 - in reply to #111659)
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Mopar-To-Ya: That is one of the best looking shapes ever made. When I saw the pics of your car with those bikini girls I thought this is the perfect car! Trust me, I looked the pic with a magnifying glass I think its now perfect, I like the color combo and the wheels.

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Posted 2008-02-12 8:31 PM (#114753 - in reply to #111659)
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Not everyone here or elsewhere wants a restored car , call me elcheapo or ignorant on HOW to restore a car . A non stock looking car from that era is to my liking . It ain t got nothing to do with value if you don t plan on selling it . Go do what you want with your car and enjoy it before some act of GOD takes it away from you and you never get that chance to do with it what you would have .
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I read this discussion only today...Great Car!! I got a 58 4door ht as you know... means that I MUST love this 57.. beautiful and loaded...such a car deserves a correct restoration, or a mild custom such as sporty tires and rims...
congrats again!!
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Posted 2008-08-18 4:24 PM (#141767 - in reply to #128586)
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Just wanted you all to know that work has progressed on the Chrysler. It's been really hot the past few months so it has been very slow.

Here I was fitting it for proper tire sizes....



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Posted 2017-03-01 1:21 PM (#534958 - in reply to #141767)
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After nine years, most of you have probably forgotten that I even had this car. In that time I've had two house moves, a marriage, and a few great vacations. I can't complain.

But now it's time to get back to work on the Chrysler. I'm still building it the same way I always envisioned. The original 392 block is being used here for mock up with the Tremec TKO manual trans. I have a good running 392 in a parts car that will be going in after it gets cleaned, painted, and detailed. I've actually been making a lot of progress recently. My guess is it will be drivable by the end of summer. Wish me luck.

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Posted 2017-03-01 5:38 PM (#534969 - in reply to #111659)
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Good to hear it Danny. You really need to be driving that beast. It's pretty odd to have a New Yorker with manual trans. I have never even witnessed a Windsor with a manual trans. But I can see a low end Firesweep getting one. I had originally thought of doing a Tremec swap in my '56 Savoy, but changed my mind in the end. I still have all the pedal & clutch linkage stashed somewhere in my garage.

Does your car have an extra wide piece of trim across the top of the roof, above the windsheild? Mine does, but I was wondering if it was standard fare on the New Yorkers, or if it was an extra option.
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Posted 2017-03-01 6:23 PM (#534972 - in reply to #534969)
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Thank you Nathan. This car was built with a Torqueflite of course. Pushbuttons are cool, but I like the stick. The car is going to be an early '60s style custom, and a lot of them ended up with hot drivetrains in them. The pedals are from a '58 Suburban.

I believe all '57 New Yorkers had that piece of trim you mention, as do 300Cs.
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Sweet. Great front end.
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Looking great Danny! I'm surprised the Torches and Pitchforks haven't come out. Love the 392 and MANual tranny. Marc.
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Nice Ride Danny....what is the front end off of? Did you move up to 15" wheels from the stock 14's? Really nice project, keep the pictures coming....whats under the plastic next to it? Looks kinda like mine...
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Posted 2018-04-03 3:48 PM (#561067 - in reply to #111659)
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I've been busting my tail on this car to get it ready for the Lone Star Round Up in Austin this weekend. I've been driving it around some but it has a stubborn, dead miss on one cylinder that I haven't diagnosed yet. It starts and goes through the gears okay. My exhaust guy took his sweet time even though I made it clear I have a lot left to get done on it. Those four-bolt truck/300D manifolds are a BEAR for an exhaust shop to deal with. Billy, the other car is a parts car. I have a full set of stock hub caps if you're interested.
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What trouble did they have with the 4-bolts? Once I headed the pipes toward the motor, it wasn't too hard - although it did require a couple of tight compound turns. But I thought it was actually harder going over the trans crossmember. *Edit*: I think I just figured out why. I had to cut the pipes off those flanges *almost* completely off. I had maybe 1/8" stub of pipe left on them because the attachment pipe had to start bending right at the flange in order to get it away from the T-bars.

What does the spark plug look like on the dead cylinder? Check the wire continuity as well. A stuck valve is not as likely if you don't hear any backfire in the exhaust or intake, but the only other possibilities are a bad lifter (that you should be able to hear) or loss of compression from a bad ring (detectable from a leak down test).



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Your pipe shown passes directly through the spot where my starter is. He did cut down the stubs to nearly nothing and used a stainless 2.5" mandrel bent donut I brought for him to use.

I'll try to get a picture and upload it later. I haven't figured out how to resize pictures on this phone, which should be simple.

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Big pics are no good...

There might be an option on your phone camera (whatever happened to using cameras, anyway?) to take pics in a lower resolution, that would help.

But best of all is to download Irfanview (it's free) and use it for everything. You can readily crop, lighten, darken, sharpen, reduce etc in seconds.

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Thank you for the tips, Ray. I can crop and put instagram 'filters' on all my phone pictures, but it doesn't seem to have a simple resizing tool. I'm sure I've overlooked it. But now I'm at my laptop and can post at will.

Still having an issue with how it's running. Very frustrating. But here are a few pictures from the past week or so.



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Wow, very nice looking. Doesn't look like it would take very much to finish the paint on it either, so you are almost there. Keep up the good work! I just noticed your rear license plate. That's some slick work there!

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Posted 2018-04-09 10:34 PM (#561339 - in reply to #111659)
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Really like this car's stance, and the stick shift is a welcome addition in my opinion. One of the coolest (if not the coolest) 1957 New Yorker I've ever seen.
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Great car,

the front clip with 57 desoto bumper and NYer chrome lip additional with the little scoop looks great
THIS is a cool cruiser
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What size wheels and tires are on this car? Where did you purchase the tires?
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Wow, you guys don't miss any details. I have done a lot of small, subtle changes to this car that 99.99% of people would never notice. Even people that are "into" old Mopars. Congrats on being in the top .01% There are dozens of other things. The battery tray has been removed under the hood. The 300C 150 speedometer. The '58 Chrysler radio delete plate. All just for you .01%ers!!

Powerflite - 2018-04-09 4:05 PM

Wow, very nice looking. Doesn't look like it would take very much to finish the paint on it either, so you are almost there. Keep up the good work! I just noticed your rear license plate. That's some slick work there!


I still have a lot of work to do to make it a good driving car first. I want to go ahead and finish the interior and the trunk upholstery before painting it. I have to remove the rear glass to put a headliner back in it. It will take weeks to pull all the trim, and straighten and polish it. I guess what I'm saying is, get used to this ugly look for a while! It dawned on me that I never put up a picture of what it will look like "done" so I'm going to put it on the bottom here.

The back bumper was a mess anyway, so I didn't mind cutting a big ol hole in it. The little shadow box arrangement I made to hold the plate and the light was the hard part. All for something that nobody will ever see! It tucks the plate pretty high up in there. I could lower it some but I think I prefer it mostly hidden.

jboymechanic - 2018-04-09 9:34 PM

Really like this car's stance, and the stick shift is a welcome addition in my opinion. One of the coolest (if not the coolest) 1957 New Yorker I've ever seen.


Thank you. I hesitated on going forward with the Tremec because I have good Torqueflites laying around. It has definitely gotten mixed reviews!

The car keeps getting lower. I will probably swap the 3" blocks for 2"s and raise the front back up some. Eventually I want to put rear springs on it that are the right height and rate without blocks. Lots of other things to deal with first!

ToMopar - 2018-04-10 1:44 AM

Great car,

the front clip with 57 desoto bumper and NYer chrome lip additional with the little scoop looks great
THIS is a cool cruiser


Thanks Tom! The fenders have big indentions for the trim clips, so I kinda "had to" run the Chrysler front trim. After looking at it, I think I like this arrangement better anyway. The weird thing is that Chrysler never put a REAR wheel lip moulding on the cars until 1959. I have a set from a 300E but it's very 'fat' compared to the '57 front trim. I have a pair of slim generic wheel opening trim that I have mostly bent up to shape and will install on the rear.

jboymechanic - 2018-04-10 8:01 AM

What size wheels and tires are on this car? Where did you purchase the tires?

The wheels were custom made a while back. They are 15x5 and 15x7 and use '56 Ford wheel centers, because that was a common thing for the car customizers in the '60s to do. They have a distinctive look. In these pictures, the tires are 7.10-15 all around, but I have a pair of L78-15s for the rear because the 7.10s are just too narrow for those 7" wheels. The L78s are nearly two inches wider and another inch taller.

Thanks for the comments guys. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and I'm sure Neil is rolling in his grave. I wish he was here to heckle me about it.



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I like the way this car is coming together, mild custum with bad attitude - keep up the good work and keep us posted
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That kind of reminds me of the job Bob did on his De Soto out here...

Keen attention to detail and hang the expense!
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Well, that is an amazing compliment, but Bob's car is probably the finest FL car on the planet and mine is similar only in shape.
For those that don't know of earleebob's '57 Fireflite: http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=39513&star...

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Beautiful Car! I'm glad to see it all coming together so nicely.
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I figured out why it was running poorly - an open 3/16 pipe threaded hole in the intake. I plugged it up, and the car runs like a top.
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I figured out why it was running poorly - an open 3/16 pipe threaded hole in the intake. I plugged it up, and the car runs like a top.


If that was near the rear of the intake manifold, that's probably the port where the vacuum for the power brakes was created.

Check out Powerflite's thread about 392 Dual Quads (lots of discussion about dealing with that fitting):

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It was either for power brakes or the vacuum for the starter safety switch. Whichever it was, it isn't needed, and I capped that little bas***d. LOL

I got to drive it around a bunch tonight. What a rush to have the car I've dreamed of for so long. You couldn't wipe the grin off my face!
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That's awesome. Congratulations! By the way, I really like those vacuum switches. They make it impossible for anyone to grind the starter into a running motor. You can sit and crank on the starter motor continuously and it will automatically shut off at just the right moment. Makes it more idiot proof.

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I have a functional neutral safety switch for that!

Drove the car around a bunch today. I have the minor leaks addressed, except the coolant. I keep topping it off, but the overflow spits a little out all the time. I'm thinking about hiding a reservoir to help with it.

Driving it is a blast. Cruises smooth and easy, steeeing is light even at parking lot speeds, and the car just stops perfect. Still have some adjustment to make with the clutch and parking brake, but it's all coming together as a nice cruiser. I just love it.
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57burb - 2018-04-15 9:33 PM. I have the minor leaks addressed, except the coolant. I keep topping it off, but the overflow spits a little out all the time. I'm thinking about hiding a reservoir to help with it.


I would NOT want to be right on this but....

Any chance you have head gasket leak? (Which would pressurize the cooling system and cause coolant to spit out the overflow). Otherwise, I can't think what would cause such spitting.

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Are you possibly "over filling" the radiator? I catch myself occasionally filling to the top like a sealed system instead of filling just above the core tubes
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Hey, if it's not full, it's not full!

That's all it is. Not a head gasket issue. This is Texas, and summer is coming. I want that last quart in there! Still might put a catch can in it eventually.



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it would be cool to cruise with that cool car.....
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Good work Dan, very cool to see your car mobile at last.
The 57 New Yorker 2 door hardtop is a pinnacle car from the FL era in my opinion, and yours is a beauty!
Need video next!

Steve.

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I uploaded the most boring video ever made to youtube. I guess you can see that it really does run. The audio is a little tinny. In person the car has a deep rumble that just doesn't come across on a phone recording.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yhiP8uwgi0

I'll see if I can get someone to record it being driven later this week. It is kinda cool going through the gears.
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looks and sounds menacing sitting there in the dark!
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That Video is better, even with the bathing slippers
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HAHAA, bath slippers, that's great!

Yeah I took that one as a test because the night video was so bad. That one still sounds pretty terrible. And to make it more interesting, I should probably say something.
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60 Imp - 2018-04-18 5:18 AM

Good work Dan, very cool to see your car mobile at last.
The 57 New Yorker 2 door hardtop is a pinnacle car from the FL era in my opinion, and yours is a beauty!
Need video next!

Steve.


Again, I prove to be pretty useless behind a camera. But here's a short one of my friend taking it for a spin.
https://youtu.be/h5slAbwdmQk
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That looks really nice driving down the road!
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Thank you, man. It's been a ton of work as we all know. Fortunately most of what's left is "fun work" although a bit expensive! Saving for chrome and interior now...
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The car is still on the road, it has been an amazing driver. It keeps a good consistent temp even in this 100+ degree (F) heat. It does still have a minor oil leak that I need to fix.

It gets a lot of attention. People are always ask if I'm going to keep it "like that" and they usually seem disappointed when they find out it will actually get painted!

Speaking of that, it will have to come off the road soon for panel alignment, final bodywork, and paint. Door handles are shaved. If anyone wants to donate a few bucks for chrome and interior, it would be greatly appreciated.



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What are you planning for the interior?
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Adding a swivel seat from a '60 Imperial. Having the seats reupholstered in the stock materials and patterns the car was built with (code 26, metallic gray vinyl plus a black 'jacquard' motif for the fabric inserts)

Door panels will be based on the stock NYer design, but using a color scheme that goes with the car (they were... brown... )

Black Trinidad (silver and gold flecks) carpet

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I got the swivel seat in the car. Not too big of a deal really, just had add four new holes in the floor and reused four that holes that were already there. I have it temporarily covered with the Mexican blankets for now.

Here's an idea of what the interior fabrics will be, which as I said above is the factory metallic gray vinyl and black jacquard fabric. I snapped a pic of my factory door panels to show what terrible shape they are in, and to point out how weird it was that they matched the silver seats with brown dash and door panels.

In a few weeks we'll start pulling it all apart and prepping it for paint...



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I really like the brown with the gray vinyl & black cloth. I think it's a very classy combination, and I think it would look great with your current color scheme. But if you replace the brown with something closer to your roof color, that would look good too. But I bet they aren't a whole lot different once you turn it into a non-metallic color. Maybe just a little subdued in comparison.
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I've never seen what that factory (Code 26) interior looks like. Do you have any?

When I found my car the interior was pretty rough. For a while I wasn't sure the interior was all stock, because none of the colors matched! Silver seats with black inserts; brown and gray door panels; green-gold dashboard with coral gauge pods; black dash pad; white headliner. I can't recall if the carpet was brown or black. I like stock stuff too, but man I couldn't go back with all that.

Most of my interior will be black/gray/silver, with a few gold details like the gauge pods, steering wheel ribs, Chrysler logo on the radio, the lion on the glove box, etc.



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I have only seen mine and the one on facebook, and mine is the same code 26. Your door panels look correct, but your rear armrests have the wrong fabric on them. They should have the same black fabric as the seats. Your dashpad should be brown like the door panels. The rear package shelf should be brown too. The gauge pods were orange-ish red & silver dash. Looks like your dash has been swapped at some point.



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Thanks for the photos.

Good point about the fabric. The fabric of my seats and door panels WAS replaced. It's just that it was a black fabric that faded to gray! If you look at my rear armrest, you can see the part that was hidden by the back seat, and that is still black.

It could be that my dash was just badly sun damaged (like everything else in the interior) and the silver turned a greenish gold color. I still have all the original dash stuff, I'll dig it out and take a look. The part of my gauge pods hidden by the dash were a dead ringer for that orange-red color.
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One small thing that always bothered me is that the factory put a nice piece of wheel opening trim on the front of these cars, but not the rear. Even with stone shields, it drives my OCD kinda crazy. I photoshopped it "painted" to see how it's all going to look and it definitely needed a set of rear trim pieces to match (IMO). So I took a generic aftermarket pair and bent and trimmed them up to fit.

And that about does it for all the big changes I wanted to make. After driving it all summer, I've tied up most of the loose ends that any rebuilt car has. Now it's time for the big expensive stuff! I've got the interior fabrics on their way from SMS, and working out a timeline with a chrome shop. We'll start taking it apart in a couple of weeks and finish all the bodywork and paint. Should be a fun winter!



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The trim looks great on there. I love the side view of the shopped black paint your using for a reference with the low stance and big heavy duty Desoto bumper and grill. You’re building one bada$$ ride.

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Thank you guys. Here's what it would look like without them...



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Hey Danny, I really like the stance and wheel fitment/choice on your car. Much more so than the hubcaps I’m using. Looks much better now (IMO) than when you had the spokes, and thinner tires on the rear. To compare notes, what is the current rear wheel size and backspace, and rear tire size your running? Also, I lowered the rear on mine with 2” lowering blocks, what did you use?

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Pure awesome Danny, i also want those rear wheellips Will follow your resto
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Leadfoot1000 - 2018-10-31 1:52 AM

To compare notes, what is the current rear wheel size and backspace, and rear tire size your running? Also, I lowered the rear on mine with 2” lowering blocks, what did you use?

I think I put some of that in another post on this thread, but here's what I'm running:

front - 15x5, 2.5" bs / zero (standard) offset, 7.10-15 Coker tires
rear - 15x7, 2.5" bs / 1" (reverse) offset, L78-15 Coker tires

The wheel centers are '56 Ford passenger car all around (kind of a '57-64 custom car thing) with new spider caps from Speedway. The outer rims are new. Wheels were built and chromed by Jimmy aka wheelkid at Rally America. http://rallyamerica.com/

I am also using 2" blocks in the rear.

Something I don't think I mentioned here is the rear axle is a Ford 8.8 from a late 80s Mustang. I cut off all the four-link bits, and welded on spring pads at the right width and pinion angle. It made dealing with the Tremec trans much easier, as I got a slip yoke driveshaft, bolt-on driveshaft flange, and beefy 1350 u-joints as part of the package, plus the ease of dealing with a more common rear end. The e-brake setup came directly from a Ranger with leaf springs and just about bolted into place.

I'm telling you all this because that overall rear axle width is about 1.5" narrower (I don't have the exact number handy) and it makes the rear wheels fit better in the car. I'm not sure I could run those 9" wide L78s on a reversed wheel back there without them rubbing the fender lip on driveway entrances, etc.

Probably more info than you wanted, but I hope that helps!

mogge65 - 2018-10-31 3:15 AM

Pure awesome Danny, i also want those rear wheellips Will follow your resto :inlove:


Thank you Morgan! Maybe I can ship you a pair. I'm loving your NYer too!
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Thanks for explaining your setup. It explains why the rear wheels look extra deep, looks great. The rear of your car sits a little lower than mine, must be the spring rate or some difference in the spring perches between stock and the ford rear.
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Time for a little update. I pulled the car apart and sent the bumpers and a bunch of other stuff out for chrome. We have been working the body over pretty good, fixing some minor collision damage in the driver's quarter, finalizing the shaved door handles, and adjusting all the gaps. This car is as rock solid as it can be. We didn't do any rust repair because none was needed. Even the rocker drain holes are flawless. Here's a pic as I left the shop last night. All the panels are primed, and now it's time to get those blocking muscles working! Hope to have it in paint within the month.



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Posted 2019-01-30 3:36 PM (#577617 - in reply to #111659)
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I like the way this project goes, slow and thoughful for to get it just right for you. It will be a very nice mild custom.
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Thank you Sven. I know it's not for everyone. But I'm trying to do the car justice. And it's going slow because I'm poor!
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You may have been slow before, but now you are moving faster than Speedy Gonzalez. Great progress!
Which is really impressive given that time is slowing down on us.

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you may are a bit slow, but the result counts. And that looks really good
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There's very little on Earth better than '57 Chrsyler...!
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After a marathon of sanding and sanding and sanding, we have paint! Just the gray side sweep down both sides for now. Wanted to get that down first, so we can mask them off later to spray the rest of the car and not worry about getting tape tracks.

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Looks great Danny! You have waited a long time for this! Congratulations.
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Posted 2019-02-05 10:47 AM (#577867 - in reply to #577845)
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I know you did, Greg! Those cars you built were done to an incredible level. This one will be a nice driver, as I plan to drive it quite a bit. Hoping to spread that FL bug! Thank you all very much
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This thread is one of my favourites. Thanks Danny for share all those pictures.
I like your "Driver"
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I sometimes like the patina, but a nice clean paint job is the way to go I think.
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That is one nice ride!!
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I haven't been looking much here lately , but shes looking great Danny , cant wait to see it painted . Already looks great as it is in primer with the sweep painted !

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Great looking ride! Are these the final colors? I hope so. Very, very nice.
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Thanks for the comments! I appreciate the encouragement even though it's not a stock resto.

Sid, the car is going to be black with a dark gray roof and sweep. The light gray is just primer.
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I was never a fun of rotten looking cars, specially elegant cars like the Imperial, either of people chopping a piece of history. But a mild custom well made is always something to respect.
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I like that you left the kink in the side trim instead of straightening it out like Jim does to his Plymouths. It is a characteristic of the original design that I appreciate.
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Laid down the paint today. It came out nice for a garage job. Will still need some sanding and polishing. The chrome and stainless is starting to come back from the chrome shop. Expecting the reupholstered seats in another couple of weeks. Starting to really come together!



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You must be feeling great!! I know I sure did at this stage! Just don't cut through the paint with the buffing compound. I also know what that feels like!

Well done, Danny. Have fun!
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Very nice.

The problem with 'patina' is at the end of the day, it's still rust and dull paint.

If you are missing any trim there's a slim chance I might have it. I have a few odd pieces left over and the price will be very reasonable!
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Congrats Danny! 10 years since you got it - 10 years of progressive happyness!!  - SERGE - 

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Well, it's actually been 11 years now. Better late than never, eh?

All that fresh paint looks good, but of course afterwards comes all the hard work to clean it up. MORE sanding, then polishing, and then waxing.

I have to give my DAD all the credit here. I could say that "we" painted it, but I was really not much more than a gopher on this phase of the job! He busted his tail on the paint, and it really is awesome. It's way nicer than I even hoped it would be.

While he was working on rubbing it all out, I started building out the door panels. The door caps were a mangled, rusty, beat-up mess.



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That has to be one of the best looking FL cars I have ever seen, really great job!
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Those body lines are just beautiful. I love this car.
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Those are some big compliments, thank you. I'm glad you guys like it!
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Posted 2019-03-04 11:44 PM (#578883 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny wow wow wow is all ican say , the car and paint looks killer . You must be over the moon . This is the when you really start getting enthused with a resto project after paint is on . Your dad looks to be like my dad , they just know how to do things right !
A credit to you guys . Cant wait to see how the trim turns up now .
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Posted 2019-03-09 2:27 PM (#579089 - in reply to #111659)
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We finally have some sunny weather, so I pulled it outside for a couple of pics with her twin sister. Starting to look like a car, now.



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Posted 2019-03-11 4:27 AM (#579157 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, - wow,
It looks that you could cruise very soon with your custom Cruizer
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Posted 2019-03-11 6:43 AM (#579158 - in reply to #111659)
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You must be proud having your Dad working on this car with you! You are a lucky Bloke.
11 years aint so long............anyways, its a marathon not a sprint!
As Jon above says, I cant wait to see the pics and video of this car when done. It is spectacular already. (Hey Jon, I cant wait to see your 56 Imperial done too)

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Posted 2019-03-18 1:28 PM (#579499 - in reply to #579158)
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Finally got all the stainless on the car. Now working on the interior, and waiting for the chrome to get back!



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Posted 2019-03-18 7:59 PM (#579510 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks sensational . Cant wait to see how your trim comes out .
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The fun part!
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Posted 2019-03-25 12:29 PM (#579880 - in reply to #579510)
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Fun?! Man, I am starting in on the interior, and I wouldn't call that fun! I have a lot of anxiety because I've never done this stuff before and I don't want it to look like an amateur did it. But on the plus side, if I don't like something, I can always rip it out and try to do it better.

I have a local upholsterer doing the seats; he has the back seat to me already and it looks great! Can't wait to see the swivels. I thought I might try to do the headliner, but I was concerned that I could never get it stretched and glued and looking nice without having done it before. So I asked the upholsterer if he could do it, and he came to my shop and knocked it out of the park! I'm very glad I had him do it.

I did get all the windlace installed and laid down the jute. I put down a thin first layer to smooth out the floor contours, and a thick layer for sound and heat barrier. Then I rolled out my Trinidad carpet in the car and it looks awesome! But once again I didn't have the guts to cut this stuff up, so I am putting in some plain black carpets for now. It doesn't follow contours very well, so I'm not totally happy with it. But I'll figure out a way to get that Trinidad in, it's just a matter of time.

The door panels are mocked up. The eagle eyed among us will notice I added a second piece of trim on the door so I can add a small section of gold fabric, which my wife requested. I'll be learning as I go on them too, so I'll be putting down the thin foam and covering them in vinyl soon.

The chrome shop said my stuff should be ready today, so there may be a brief pause in the interior work while all that pretty stuff goes back on



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Posted 2019-03-25 2:56 PM (#579890 - in reply to #111659)
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hah too nice to drive now I hope not.

Looking even better now that its coming to completion.
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Posted 2019-03-25 6:17 PM (#579908 - in reply to #579890)
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I'm going to drive the wheels off this thing. It's nice, but it's no show car.
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I'm very jealous about the great progress you are making.


Me too
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Took a couple of pictures over the weekend. I'm pretty happy with how the car is shaping up, but time is running out! I'm planning to drive it to Austin on Thursday, and I still don't have my arm rests, visors, or front seat back from the upholsterer.

I did the carpet and door panels myself. They look okay, but close inspection shows they're kind of amateurish. I may redo them when I get a chance. But they'll do for now.

I pulled the wheels off to inspect the brakes, steering and suspension and clean things up under there. Also, there were a couple of rear axle studs that had chewed up threads, so I pulled the axles out and will put a new set of studs in later today.

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Very nice Danny, soon ready for road tests!
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Very nice looking custom. You just need that seat done to use it. The rest is icing on the cake.
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The car is back together and drives as good as before! I took it on a ~600 mile trip to Austin and back and it performed just great.

Reactions have been really nice so far, I'm sure the toughest critics are right here on the FL site. Still lots of minor things to address, but looking forward to a bunch of cruising...




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Trim is looking great Danny and the car is looking totallly wild !

Hey out of interest ive been meaning to post up these pics of the C pillar mouldings i cut , shaved , folded and gingerely manipulated into shape from a 56 Packard 400 inside rear pillar . This is what i was looking for on my 57 chrysler , as i really hate the New Yorkers didnt get the roof mouldings like the 58 Fireflite . This seems to give it that finishing touch without overdoing it .
It is only sitting on there loosely and is not attached yet , so if it appears wonky it is as it needs to be sitting in place better , but i dont want to mess up the paint until i attached them properly .

What do you guys think . I think they are a great fit and thought it might be a good idea for others to add to that final touch .

I found a NOS Rear 59 Pillar Moulding , but i found this after making mine and never realised they had a rear pillar moulding as i never really looked or took notice of 59s . I cant find the other side mate to this at an affordable price , so i will stick with what i made .

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They look terrific, but dont belong on a survivor car! You should send them to me asap!
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Congratulations Danny, great to be done on it.

I've never thought about fitting the '59 roof trim to a '57. I bet they came up with that trim to hide the horribly warped C-panels from the factory. That's often one of the worst places on the car for the '57-'58 large bodies in terms of build quality. What car is the other trim piece from?
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Thanks Danny , they probably do belong on your car more than mine . But i spent so long making them i couldnt ! If i dont fit them ill let you have them .

Nathan they are off a 56 Packard 400 inner rear pillar . I have a photo there showing what they started life as . It was a lot harder than it looks to make them . As i have to make a curved flared out edge to wrap them into the rear windshield rubber which i did with 2 blocks of soft pine wood in a vice so as not to do damage and its make it look factory . After i made them and discovered the 59 type i realised they had a lip that sits under the rear windshield moulding , which is no good if you want to fit them after the car is together . My idea was much smarter i thought .



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The car is back together and drives as good as before! I took it on a ~600 mile trip to Austin and back and it performed just great.

Reactions have been really nice so far, I'm sure the toughest critics are right here on the FL site. Still lots of minor things to address, but looking forward to a bunch of cruising...



Very sleek and nice, the small careful modifications blends in well with the original design. Now use it and enjoy it
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Great car Danny, one on my favorites on this entire site. Extra credit for making it stick shift too (in my book) for the fun factor.
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Hey Danny , i meant to ask what car were your rear arch mouldings from . As i bought some local valiant ones the other day but the lip want deep enough .
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Next time I flew via Houston, I will stop by and ask you for a ride...
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James, they are just some "generic" aluminum wheel opening trim pieces that happened to come with my parts car. No identification on them. They were brand new, never mounted. I had to cut and bend them quite a lot to "fit" and even then... well, don't get too close! They are a bit rough. I may redo them, but for now they are working to break up that huge expanse of black.

Tom, you're welcome to stop by anytime. But Houston is a five hour drive from my shop! DFW airport would be much closer
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Thanks Danny . I am sure i will find a moulding to suits eventually !
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Not much to report, except that I swapped on the repro Chrysler wires from the wagon onto the Chrysler just to change it up a bit. They're okay-looking. Kinda cliche. The tires are far too short, but it's undeniable that the radials are more sure-footed.

James, I got a pair of the Packard interior sail panel trim pieces, thank you for the tip! I also ebay'd a pair of '57-58 Cadillac coupe rear wheel opening mouldings to see if they will be a little nicer than the cheap jobs I used. I'll probably play with them both over the long weekend here.



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I agree that the wires are better suited to a more stock car. A custom with wires is a little odd. They still look nice, but it is like putting stock full cover hub caps on a drag car.

I like the stance of your car MUCH better than the drawings/photoshop that were made with the cars sitting on the ground. To me, sitting on the ground like that looks pretty stupid, like wheels with excessive negative camber & wheel hopping suspensions kind of stupid. But yours is nicely lowered with a decent rake to it still.
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Very, very nice! Love the DeSoto front. You'll be the envy at all the shows and cruises for sure as well as on the street.
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No sweat Danny , happy to help .

Also let me know how you go with those caddy wheel house moldings , as i just looked on ebay and they do look the same shape dont they . well spotted !
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57burb you have a beautiful car!

just to know, your rims are much similar to the ones I have on my desoto, are they 15" wheelsvintique?
do you have the specifications? width, etc. ?
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Hi Guido, thank you!

My wheels were custom made by rallyamerica.com several years ago. They are chromed '49-56 Ford wheel centers with new outer rims, and are 15x5 with 7.10-15 in front, and 15x7 with and L78-15 in the rear, with 3" whitewalls all around. They are reverse offset in the rear, but my rear axle is narrower than stock so they fit in the wheel house same as stock. Hope that helps!
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thanks for your answer.
the previous owner who made the custom style of my desoto, said my wheels are wheelvintiques rims.
he does not remember the measurements, except for the diameter 15".....which is quite clear from the tyres specs: 6.70-15 front, 8.20-15 rear.
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I have read that Desoto fenders are different than the Chrysler's around the front Bumper did you have to modify your fenders to get the Desoto Bumper on it?

I am Planning a Similar build to your original Photoshop Pic, I love that Picture its my computer screen, Its my inspiration to get the Project going.
Still searching for the Front Bumper for mine every time I find one I am low on Cash, but things are better now.
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Which car are you starting with? You may consider just starting with a DeSoto.
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I would love to have a Desoto but, I have a 57 New Yorker 2 door.
Im not complaining though lol I just really like the look of the Desoto Bumper over the Chrysler.
Not too mention with the hood scoop its just way over the top.

I already have a 57 4 door parts car I am gonna use for the Hood to modify so I wont harm my original.

I would like to find a decent tail light set up from the Desoto as well but I am just gonna keep wishing for a Bumper.
I have now fear of making my own bumper brackets or modifying the ones off my 4 door parts car its front bumper is damaged.

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I like it. Are the brakes manual? Did you Delete the heater core?
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Posted 2019-06-13 10:05 AM (#583375 - in reply to #111659)
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A magnificent piece of automobile, just at the right stance. I'm usually not a big fan of parts from other cars grafted on a kustom, as it never looks right, but the hood scoop on this one looks like it came from the factory. Great job.
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Posted 2019-06-13 9:45 PM (#583395 - in reply to #583375)
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Doright, the Desoto bumper will bolt on without modifying the Chrysler front fenders. The brackets are different, of course. I had to do some minor trimming of the upper brackets to clear the fenders, but that was all.

Thank you, Sid. I know you like them original so that means a lot. The car is pretty low though! I have very tall tires on it, so it doesn't look "slammed." The hood scoop is funny. Very few people even notice it, and those that do think the car is a 300 or some other special model. Only 4 or 5 people have asked me if the scoop was added. So I guess it looks like the factory put it there - mission accomplished. Even fewer people notice the trunk and rear bumper.

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Love the Rake you gave it, how did you accomplish that?

Cant wait to get going on mine I have a few other restorations in front of it right now. BUT soon gives me time to find the Bumper.



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Posted 2019-06-16 8:35 PM (#583536 - in reply to #583532)
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I turned down the torsion bars and used 2" lowering blocks in the rear. There's also quite a bit of "rubber rake" because the rear tires are nearly 2" taller than the fronts.
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Posted 2019-06-20 6:37 PM (#583809 - in reply to #111659)
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How do Lowering blocks in the rear work?
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Posted 2019-06-20 9:41 PM (#583815 - in reply to #583809)
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They are simple aluminum blocks that are placed between the leaf springs and the rear axle. Since the axle is above the leaf springs, it lowers the car by the thickness of the blocks. You normally need longer u-bolts to account for the difference.
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57burb - 2019-06-20 6:41 PM

They are simple aluminum blocks that are placed between the leaf springs and the rear axle. Since the axle is above the leaf springs, it lowers the car by the thickness of the blocks. You normally need longer u-bolts to account for the difference.


Something like this:



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Posted 2019-06-21 5:08 PM (#583847 - in reply to #111659)
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I gotcha, Did lowering the front by loosening the Torsion bars hurt Handling at all?

I am under the assumption they are adjusted by a bolt and lever on Torsion bar that sets up the Torsion bar tension and then measuring ride height at the lower control arm inner attach point to the ground correct?

Is there a 4 wheel disk brake kit available yet for these cars? I sure would like to do that modification.
Along with Stronger Sway bars just to improve the Body Roll.

I am also thinking about mild supercharging

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You can't adjust the tension of a torsion bar. Regardless of adjustment/height, tension stays the same.
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Yep, just the geometry changes so you have to readjust and re-align it; and you lose some room for movement between the bump stops.
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I've been wanting to try some full wheelcovers on this car for a while, so this is my first baby steps in that realm.

I kept the same size wheels all around and swapped the tires over. The rears are "dirt track" wheels because they're the only thing I could find with the correct offset for my narrower rear end. Plus they were cheap!

Eventually I might make some mild changes to the Lancers, but I kind of like them as-is with the gold wheels. Or try some different covers altogether. Definitely gives the car a more understated vibe.



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That looks really sharp, I love the gold rims with your black car- very '50s especially with the spinners!
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Looking great with the wheel covers but I personally do not like 3-tone or more than 2 colors on a car and the rims should be color keyed to one of the body colors. With a gold-anodized side trim the gold rims would look good. Just my opinion.

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Posted 2019-07-16 10:45 AM (#584889 - in reply to #584882)
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I hear ya, Sid. Gold has been used to add subtle visual interest throughout the car; the grille, the engine, the instrument pods, door panels, seat piping, etc. So it's not completely out of left field.
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Dennis, great so see it. I likr „your“ style
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After looking at it for so long, I had it in my head that this car needed some slightly narrower whitewalls to fit in with the '59-61 time period I wanted it to look like. I was also determined to run my wire wheels on this car!

I saved up some money and ordered a set of US Royal (Coker) 6.70 and 8.20 tires with slightly narrower whitewalls, then put them on the wire wheels. And they are all wrong. A side view is the most flattering look for it, but the tires are too short up front, and too narrow everywhere. Especially the rear! Dang it.

I'm back to running the chrome reverse and tires I started with. On one hand it's expensive and aggravating, but on the other hand I'm glad I finally scratched that itch and can stop thinking about it. LOL

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Now you'll need another project to put those tires onto! Something wires would look good on. How about a '54-'56 DeSoto or 300B?

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Yeah who can have only one fwl car? I mean they are cheap!
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Heh, yep. I do still have the wagon, but I think a local guy wants it more than I do. If I ever have another "nice" FL car it will probably be a red 300B with wire wheels.
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Just a couple of small updates. I wanted to put the Trinidad carpet in the car back in March, but I ran out of time and budget for it. But it just had to happen! So I went ahead and paid the interior guy to do it so it would turn out nice, and I'm glad I did. He also made some floor mats for it and put the gold piping around them. At first I wasn't crazy with the pictures, but when I saw it in person it really popped! He said the carpet is like "looking at a galaxy" and he's kind of right. At night, it is really like looking into space. It's crazy.

And then something else I have wanted to do for a long time was run chrome stripes over the roof. This is a "custom" thing I guess, but very localized to the suburbs of south LA in around '58-59. Not many people do this but I just love it! (gotta have something controversial or else it's not a custom!)

And finally, someone accused me of "not driving" this car. I drive it all the time! I took a pic on the street when my wife and I were out this week.





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Those stripes shouldn't be too controversial because most people will never see them, except from above. You say they were popular in S. LA. How did you hear about it?
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I like the car, but those stripes....... After 35 years reading 50s/early 60s custom car/car magazines I have never seen them. Anyway they did a lot of terrible things back then too, like the utterly tasteless "Watson-style" cars. The stripes are not as bad, but, in my opinion a mistake. Otherwise that car looks very clean. Also they look like painted, not like a molding, with other words a BIG NO-NO in 50s car design. You will not find a single American car from the 50s with painted on ornamentation, like in the 70s. The car designers of the 50s were styling-gods.
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the stripes are fairly subtle... i like em, kind of sets it off a bit. everyone has the black plain cars, and its out of the way.
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I like the car both ways, it's such a fabulous car in either case.
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Heh, thanks guys.

Powerflite - 2019-10-28 1:35 PM

Those stripes shouldn't be too controversial because most people will never see them, except from above. You say they were popular in S. LA. How did you hear about it?


The car is low enough that you can see them. I have an entire bookshelf dedicated to custom car magazines and books from that '55-65 time period. I took a pic below of the area known as 'Kustomland' that was known for custom cars throughout the 1950s.
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I like the car, but those stripes....... After 35 years reading 50s/early 60s custom car/car magazines I have never seen them. Anyway they did a lot of terrible things back then too, like the utterly tasteless "Watson-style" cars. The stripes are not as bad, but, in my opinion a mistake. Otherwise that car looks very clean. Also they look like painted, not like a molding, with other words a BIG NO-NO in 50s car design. You will not find a single American car from the 50s with painted on ornamentation, like in the 70s. The car designers of the 50s were styling-gods.


Well if you ignore all of Watson's legacy then you're going to have missed the chrome tape on the roof bit. They even laid some down on his casket! I would say the trend was contained almost entirely within The Renegades car club of Long Beach, and only from about 1958 to 1960. Watson wasn't a member but he did a lot of their paintwork as shown below.

And it's just tape. It peels right off. It's just there to catch your eye if you're paying attention to the car. I was surprised how much people have commented on it. I might have to shoot some clear over them.

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Powerflite - 2019-10-29 11:15 AM

Thanks for the pictures. That map pretty accurately maps out the worst part of LA today, except that it extends more to the North and less to the South.


Maybe there is something in the drinking water that explains the stripes and the delelopment of that area
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mikes2nd - 2019-10-28 6:54 PM

the stripes are fairly subtle... i like em


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Hey it's all good Sid! You can't say I didn't warn all of you back in 2008!


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Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in.


Even the photoshop I did back then is pretty close to how the car turned out...





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That came out just stunning!! Wow!
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The front bumper guards are a nice addition. They compliment the DeSoto bumper quite well I think.
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This car is almost unreal-what a beauty....I f the man who have built it wants stripes-stripes it is! It is his car after all..
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Firedome-TX - 2020-02-11 8:53 AM

That came out just stunning!! Wow!


Thanks for saying that Clif. That front bumper is the very same one from the red Firedome parts car! It has a signature 'wave' in the lower passenger side where it meets the grille mesh. I kind of like that it's there, it reminds me the car has very humble beginnings! You can kinda see it in these pics. I'll be at LSRU again this year, maybe we can meet up and cruise.
Powerflite - 2020-02-11 9:31 AM

The front bumper guards are a nice addition. They compliment the DeSoto bumper quite well I think.

Thanks Nathan. I always wanted the guards on it. In fact, at one point I drove to Missouri to pick up a second bumper. Supposedly it had nice guards and I needed a passenger-side guard because the one I had was rusty. The guards on this bumper looked intact, but again the passenger side one was so rusty that the only thing holding its shape was the chrome itself. Arrgh. I bought it anyway. And that's the upper part of the bumper on my car now. I still had to hunt down yet another pass-side guard.
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This car is almost unreal-what a beauty....I f the man who have built it wants stripes-stripes it is! It is his car after all..

Thank you Ralf. It's funny, but most of my friends that didn't like the stripes at first have come around and said they like the car better with them now. oh well



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Posted 2020-02-26 5:59 PM (#594876 - in reply to #111659)
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I put a couple of vids up of the car.

My wife's friend wanted a video of the car and specifically to see the carpet, so I filmed this one night to give an idea of what it looks like. Sorry (not sorry) about the Waylon.
https://youtu.be/u9pBpoGeiBc

This one meant something to me because this club only gives awards to cars that really capture the pre'63 rod and custom vibe.
https://youtu.be/Ey7e0Yj4E74

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Put a stock '57-58 300 2x4 intake on it with a pair of WCFBs. Removed the generator mounting bosses from the intake and crossover. It took some work to get the air cleaners to fit. I still have some cleanup to do, and fine tune the carburetors. But it finally has the right vibe under the hood.

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Looks great! Why did you decide to go with the WCFB's instead of AFB's? I ask because the only reason I would use them is to make it look stock. I am not a big fan of them, but I plan to use them on my 300C rather than converting it to AFB's like everything else.
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The WCFBs have the right look, and I don't need to grind out the holes in a 60+ year old intake. I tell myself those are the reasons. But if I'm being honest, after years of seeing millions of small block Chevrolet engines with those "Elderbrock" carbs, I have a deep seated hatred for the old AFB. LOL. But there is nothing wrong with them, they are good carburetors.
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I agree about the Edelbrock carbs. The quality control went way downhill once Carter lost control of them. But the old OEM AFB is a great carb, coupled with a Weiand intake instead of the original. I agree that the WCFB's you have on there do look great.
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Posted 2020-03-25 2:34 PM (#596018 - in reply to #595402)
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kustomrama did an article on my little kustom Pretty cool!

I assume you guys have seen most of these pics, but it gives kind of a nice timeline.

https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Danny_Vandergriff%27s_1957_Chrysler

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kustomrama did an article on my little kustom Pretty cool!
I assume you guys have seen most of these pics, but it gives kind of a nice timeline.


Congrat's to you (and your body work/paint Dad) Danny. Beautiful car. Nice article.

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Congratulations, that's great! Your car really deserves the recognition.

Did you see the final product being offered for the crossover with 331 heads on a 392? Despite our input they chose to make a blower version. Why? People running blowers don't have issues just using the one Hot Heads sells. What's worse is Hot Heads says of the same design, but for 392 heads, "does not work well with blower engines". That's why they made their other design. And their other design is cheaper too. So if it isn't good for blower motors, and it isn't good for regular motors, who's going to buy it? I don't understand why people spend gobs of money to make a product that crowds the existing market with the same product that very few people even want. Meanwhile, the stock style aluminum ones from PAW continue to skyrocket in price and no one wants to sell them.

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Posted 2020-03-26 10:21 AM (#596051 - in reply to #596026)
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56D500boy - 2020-03-25 3:41 PM

Congrat's to you (and your body work/paint Dad) Danny. Beautiful car. Nice article.

:)

Thank you Dave, I appreciate it!

Nathan, it really doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems like the market would be for "streetable 392 block + 354 head" combos since people building Chryslers tend to want the cubic inches of the tall deck block and the improved flowing of either factory 555 heads or the Hot Heads aluminum version. When you say that crossover is a "blower version" do you mean the thermostat is offset more than factory, and mounted vertically? Is there any reason that couldn't also work for a naturally aspirated setup? Might need to drill a hole and tap a pipe fitting for the water pump bypass.

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That design was originally meant for a blower, although it didn't work great because it put the hose through the middle of the blower belt. So you have to use a stiffer metal transition pipe through there. If you use it on a naturally aspirated setup, it sends the hose very close to the fan. If you eliminate the fan, there isn't an issue except for routing the hose to the radiator, but you have to change a lot of stuff to make it work well. And it's ugly. This design has been around since the '60's for the regular heads and it doesn't sell well at all. It's still available, but it only serves to increase the value of original crossovers. Original cast iron crossovers go for around $100 now. Almost no one is buying the aluminum one because of its design, and yet that's what they chose to make.
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Posted 2020-03-26 11:35 AM (#596057 - in reply to #111659)
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Hmm. Yeah, their market is the street rod crowd, the people that immediately scrap "all that crap" and cut a huge check to HH to run Chevy water pumps, billet serpentine arrangements, orange paint and black valve covers.

"Suddenly It's 1966!"

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Exactly. I did an image search to see if I could find pictures of people using this design, and it's actually very difficult to find any. The only one I could find is this one that was set up to run exclusively on a dyno.



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57burb - 2020-03-26 10:35 AM

Hmm. Yeah, their market is the street rod crowd, the people that immediately scrap "all that crap" and cut a huge check to HH to run Chevy water pumps, billet serpentine arrangements, orange paint and black valve covers.

"Suddenly It's 1966!" :o


I like you cane holder there.
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Hop Up Magazine did a "virtual car show" on their instagram page, and the Chrysler get enough votes to make it to the top 4 of '55+ style customs.

The white/blue Chevy ultimately won, but I think the little Mopar represented well seeing as it is pretty much a stock car. Great job, Exner!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAyb3TuFWwh

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Congrats man, really cool.
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Beautiful car...
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Beautiful car...


AMEN!
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Posted 2020-06-16 1:44 PM (#599753 - in reply to #599728)
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Thank you guys. Here's a couple of other pics I liked.



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Posted 2020-06-19 5:20 PM (#599865 - in reply to #111659)
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I think I have read this thread at least 5 times. This car is a 10 out of 10 in my book.
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Posted 2020-06-19 7:03 PM (#599869 - in reply to #111659)
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i honestly don't think it even needed the hood scoop
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Yeah, but there it is, being awesome...
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The car drives great and everything works so I think I'm out of stuff I want to change. I might replace the vent windows with better ones eventually. And it has a small but persistent leak from the power steering box. But those will require taking the car back down to deal with, so maybe I'll do them some other time - or not.

I took a short and very boring video to immortalize it as pretty much "done" https://youtu.be/GSRzxPRfPJE

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I'm very jealous of your done statement. I doubt I will be able to say something similar for many years yet. If you find yourself cruising to California anytime, look me up. I would love to take a closer look.
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That is really a beautiful car. Great engine compartment too. I'll bet it looks better than it did the day it rolled off the assembly line. You've done a really beautiful job on that. Can you put a side by side picture of it now versus the day you got it. That would show just how good a job you have really done. Side by side of the engine compartment too.

Really a beautiful job you did.
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Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it. It seems like I've done a couple of before/after comparisons, but not on this thread.

I went through photos of the day I found the car (before I had bought it) compared to photos from this year. That was kind of fun actually.



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57burb - 2020-06-30 9:39 AM

Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it. It seems like I've done a couple of before/after comparisons, but not on this thread.

I went through photos of the day I found the car (before I had bought it) compared to photos from this year. That was kind of fun actually.


OMG! Drool,, drool....
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Wow.... Amazing transformation. Just amazing... What a beautiful car now.
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samstrader - 2020-06-30 1:58 PM

Wow.... Amazing transformation. Just amazing... What a beautiful car now.


I agree and to me, the most significant single improvement to me over the stock Chrysler is the DeSoto front.
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My personal favorite modification is the Jeep hood as a scoop. The best compliment it gets is that most people aren't even aware it's been customized.

This was a lot of work for me and my dad, so I'm pretty proud of how it turned out.

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That's a pretty cool modification. I didn't notice it was not original. Blends in perfectly.
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Great modifications, what rim did you use? Can you let me know. Thanks!
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Great modifications, what rim did you use? Can you let me know. Thanks!

I put the wheel info in this thread here.
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Some competition for your beautiful 57 NY'r - this one is in Sweden:

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Could be good competition but that color combo is a NO, NO!
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Posted 2020-07-28 12:43 PM (#601424 - in reply to #111659)
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You had a real truck pulling that beast home in the 1st pic. Nothing like a International 7.3 PSD. So your wagon is gone too???
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Yep, I sold it to a friend of mine that wants to build a wild custom out of it. Maybe he'll join here?
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Pretty cool deal, the Chrysler has been picked up for a feature in a German magazine! Somehow they are going to run a 10-page article. I'm not sure what they'll say about it with that much space, LOL.

I'm only sharing this here, so keep it under your hat, thank you

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Wow, getting a lot of exposure! Congratulations. I'm surprised the magazine is in English.
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Pretty cool deal, the Chrysler has been picked up for a feature in a German magazine!


Danny. Thats cool. Congratulations.
I will keep eyes on the newsagent.




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I had the pleasure of seeing this beautiful Chrysler in person today, and the pictures don't do it justice. It was easily the star of the show...but naturally, I'm a little bit prejudiced.

Thanks for bringing it to our little town of Ponder, TX, Danny!
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Hi Danny, having a '56 I don't often look at '57's but when Garry had posted I had to look. I am so glad that I did, beautiful car and a great build thread. The hood scoop idea really caught my attention because I might have a clearance problem. Very helpful, thank you. 

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Thanks for saying that, Gary. The old girl is starting to get a little beat up from driving it all the time! I'm planning to refresh some things this winter, and take care of a bunch of stuff I rushed.

I wish I'd had a chance to meet up with you. I've been wanting to get all us north TX forward look folks together for a long time: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=41326&...

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A meet-up for the local folks would be fun, and Roanoke is sort of centrally located. Only problem is not being able to schedule very far in advance due to changing weather this time of the year. I just read that we might even have winter precipitation near the end of the month! I'm long retired and quite flexible for time and place, so if you have any suggestions, let me know.

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The German magazine editor was kind enough to mail me two copies directly. The car has a 10-page feature with a LOT of text - that I can't read! I am very honored.



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The car is going to be in another mag soon. Again, I was asked to keep it off social media, so please do that. But I wanted to give you guys a little peek.



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Congratulations, Danny!! Well done and it looks fantastic!!

What I appreciate the most is your overall "panel fit".
By far, the most difficult restorative goal for this family of cars is to get "perfect panel alignment". Your doors actually properly fit the body. Your front clip actually fits the doors and body and bumpers and your trunk lid actually fits both quarter panels! Your hood actually fits the fenders, body and bumper assemblies.

Nothing ever left the factory this way!!
My hat is off to you and your team!

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I don't understand why in the 50's and early 60's these werent seriously customized... Chevys and Fords were all the rage to customize... very rarely did you see a mopar... 

I thought that is weird, very weird because the FWL cars were the sleekest, lowest and best designs(even the car mags and public agreed).  So to not see like 1 57-58 Dodge custom (handful of Plymouths),  ZERO imperial customs

Just I find it strange (not until the 57 Chrysler showed up) and it was like the only one aside from a few Plymouths.  

that panel fitment was living hell... I swear probably the worst part of the job, maybe cutting and buffing is worse... both will kick your arse... I got mine right after fighting for days.



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LD3 Greg - 2020-11-30 11:26 PM

Nothing ever left the factory this way!!
My hat is off to you and your team!


Thank you for the kind remarks about the body panels on this car, Greg. I know you know what's involved in getting a car to look nice. Would you believe, it's all the original sheet metal it was born with (besides the hood, since we customized a spare and ended up using it; the stock hood is still perfect). And I assure you, it may have been put together carefully, but we didn't do any of the cutting and welding it would have taken to get show quality tolerances. It's just a driver. Black is merciless in some ways, but pretty forgiving on panel gaps. There wasn't a team, just me and my dad. A few buddies did stop by to help us put the front clip and the hood back on.

22mafeja - 2020-11-30 11:50 PM

The looks of the car are so well balanced...everything is sooo beautiful...also the surroundings.


Thank you, Ralf! I was looking for a photo shoot location and happened to drive by this house. I knocked on the door, and they were completely onboard. They were having a party the day we photographed the car!

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I don't understand why in the 50's and early 60's these werent seriously customized... Chevys and Fords were all the rage to customize... very rarely did you see a mopar... 


Probably because the FL cars didn't need a bunch of customization to look good!

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Beautiful photo Danny, congrats to yet another mag feature!!!
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The issue of Car Kulture Deluxe (CKD) is on the shelves. Keep print alive! Go pick up a copy if you can.

here's the cover
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Sweet Danny! Once again in the magazines! Congrats!
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Your car has really got some appreciation all over the world...no wonder...well earned!
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Goodguys awarded my car a 'Feature Pick' so they wrote up a nice article about it and took some pics. I thought it turned out really nice!

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Congrats Danny. Your car and your and your dad's work all deserve the accolades that they are getting. Subtle beauty.

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A local hot rod shop had a party a couple of weeks back. The highlight of the night for me is when Jimmie Vaughan stopped by and chatted with me for a while about my car. He's a huge fan of custom cars and owns a couple of killer rides. The second best part (for me, at least) was when he covered his brother's Texas Flood. It brought chills!

A great surprise was when this original-paint '58 Fireflite coupe - a Spring Special, no less - showed up. The color is Spring Special-only "Spring Rose" pink with a white roof and the anodized aluminum side trim. Very cool car!

Before we left for the show, I asked my dad to sign my glovebox door for me. He has a lot of blood and sweat in this car with me, so it meant a lot! It has also been signed by Gene Winfield and Clif Inman.



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Not much of an update. Mostly just wanted to check in with my fellow FLers.

I moved the Chrysler to my dad's garage for about six weeks while we used my shop to respray his '64 Cadillac and do a few fixes and upgrades to it. Below is a picture of his car before the repaint.

On the way home, I started smelling gas, which was really unusual. I pulled over, and sure enough it was spurting out of a pinhole/crack in the inlet fitting of the front carb! Never seen that before! At least it was an easy fix - and didn't burn the car to the ground.

The weather is starting to get nice again and I'm ready for some cruising. Hope everyone is having a great 2022.

Here is a video of that weird fuel leak: https://youtu.be/_w3Ce4ViUb0

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That is weird, Danny!  Right out of the middle of the face of that elbow.  Makes you wonder how that type of pinhole happens!  Cool images.

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It really was weird, especially since I hadn't touched that fitting in at least a year and a half. It sems to have been a crack, probably from over tightening.

I had to "enhance" this photo significantly to get the defect to show, but it seems clear what it was. Keep an eye on your cars, folks!



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This leak is bad,- BUT the pictures you made compensates us all the more for it - hopefully you too
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This will be the sweetest mild custom '57 New Yorker on the streets of Texas. The worst thing that could ever happen to it would be for some restorer to get his hands on it and try to make it into the marketing compromise that Chrysler offered back in 1957 with intent to please thousands of people. When it is done this time it will speak to the greatness of American individuality and creativity; it will be a personalized custom car in the great tradition of the modified Classics driven by Clark Gable or something from Steve McQueen's large car stable. THIS will be a credit to its owner; not another cookie cutter car off the assembly line. There are blueprints to duplicate what Detroit did; customizing done well takes unique talents. MoPar to ya!


That was a comment that my friend, Wayne Graefen, made in another thread here on the FL.net sit years ago. To put his post into proper context, he wrote that in reply to another user (d500neil, RIP) who was aghast that I wanted to customize a well-optioned '57 New Yorker! I never forgot that post of support and encouragement, it really meant a lot.

To bring it full circle, the Chrysler won the 'Jalopy Journal pick' at the Lonestar Round Up in Austin. It is kind of a big deal because there are only 6 or 7 awards given out to thousands of cars in attendance, and most of the top cars are pro-built, big-money builds. So I was quite proud to receive the honor, and have my dad there with me (since he painted it!). And a hat tip to my friend Wayne for the encouragement all those years ago.

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Magnificent car, I had some of those same type of ideas back in 2001 when I bought this one from a guy in Houston, I guess it’s in Australia now, I went a little too big with the wheels and tires (I was primarily a Cadillac guy before this) only had it a few weeks because a guy that wanted it when I bought made an offer I couldn’t refuse, I was getting laid off at the RR at the time anyway and couldn’t have held on, wish I had it now, black with that weird gray/brownish interior
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test for photo addition, oh well, not working, this is much too complicated for posting pictures

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I remember you, Jimmy. You replied on a FB post some time ago and I saved your pictures off.

The fl.net site is VERY picky about image file types and sizes. I guess they will never modernize the board. Just gotta be sure they are .jpg (and not .jpeg) files and under 500kb. Are these what you were trying to post?

BTW, I'm glad you joined. Welcome to the forum. I think the current owner of your black NYer is on this board. Check out his car. http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=76778

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That's the one, I had big plans for that, bought an original 300C 2X4 manifold on ebay, was eventually going to paint the top white and change interior to Pinefrost green and black, like I had in my 59' Coupe DeVille, oh well, I'll be looking for a black 300 C pretty soon to get back into the game after 20 years.

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I am so full of admiration for you car. Every detail on it is so well planned and done. That`s why I seek some good advice from you. I am doing a Coronet 57 now that is going to
be a soft custom kind of (absolutely not to be compared with your gem) .
I am doing a door handle delete like you did. How and where did you install the solenoids and popper springs?
I haven`t started with this yet and thought I could save some sweating if I ask around since this is completely new to me.
Would be grateful for some pictures..
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Sure Ralf, no problem. It was pretty easy. When done, be sure to coach your passengers to use one finger in the door glass channel to shut the door, or else you'll get big nasty hand prints all over your paint. Ask me how I know.

The solenoids will fit inside the access holes in each door. I drilled two holes to mount them, and made up brackets that positioned them to pull as close to "in line" with the factory interior door pull as possible. Make sure you have clearance to put your door panel back on. I then drilled a small hole in the door pull, and connected the door pull to the solenoid with 1/16" wire rope and ferrules. It wasn't too hard and it is easy to adjust. Doing it this way also let me keep every piece of stock door hardware and let me keep the interior unchanged. In the image below, I put red dots by the three holes I drilled.

The popper springs are inside a little spot at the leading edge of the door pockets. I got the heaviest-duty ones offered, 100 pound I think. They still won't really "pop" the door open, but they do slightly open them and then you just reach and open the rest of the way. I tried to think of a way to mount them inside the back edge of the jamb, so the door actually "pops" open but I couldn't find a way to do that without significantly cutting into the jamb. And it would be ugly. So I just live with it.

My solenoids are controlled using an electronic key fob. The wireless controller is inside the trunk (where my battery and fuse panel are) and it operates a relay for each solenoid. The controller allows you to adjust the amount of time the solenoid is open, and I think it's at 1.5 seconds or something.

I don't have a manual pull for these. I typically keep my vent windows unlocked so I can reach in and open the door using the interior handle. But it wouldn't be hard to add another piece of wire rope and drill a few holes to make an emergency release cable inside the front wheel opening. Good luck.



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Beautiful ride Danny....i have the long lost 4 door cousin...still stock though and way behind in shine
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I'm honored to have the car featured in the latest issue of Speed and Kulture magazine. Should be hitting the newsstands anytime now. Get you one!

I was invited to take it to the Gathering at the Roc this past weekend in Bartlesville, OK. It's a limited show that brings cars to Woolaroc, which is the lodge, museum, and nature preserve created by Frank Phillips of Phillps 66 fame. I can't describe this place in just a post - you need to put it on your bucket list! https://www.woolaroc.org/

While in town I was able to photograph it in front of Frank Lloyd Wright's only skyscraper, the Price Tower in downtown Bartlesville. This is one of the most amazing buildings I have ever seen in person. This is one of the last of FLW's works to be built and the details are incredible. https://www.pricetower.org/

And finally, I stopped off at the location of the former Reinauer Bros Motor Company dealership in OKC where my car was sold new. The owner gave us a walking tour of the building and I got to see the service bays where this car was probably prepped when new. The building is now an immersive art exhibit.

The car made me proud as it never missed a beat in 980 miles of driving and it even got 14.9mpg on the highway at a steady 75mph. Just wanted to share.







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Just a heads up, I'll be bringing the Chrysler to the Grand National Roadster Show in Pomona CA on Feb 3-5, 2023. It will be in the Suede Palace next to the Speed and Kulture / Cheater Slick Culture booth.

Come on over and say Hi, check out the car, hang out with us, tell me how you would have done it better! Let me know you are from the FL.net site and I'll get you a discount on some merch. I look forward to meeting anyone that can make it out.
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57burb
Posted 2023-02-07 1:00 PM (#627425 - in reply to #111659)
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I was able to meet a couple of people from the FL site and fb groups at GNRS. I was invited to park the car right at the entrance to the Suede Palace along with the Head Skratcher, a car that I helped my friend Skratch with on some final assembly.

It was an awesome time!



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Viper Guy
Posted 2023-02-07 8:40 PM (#627429 - in reply to #111659)
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Congrats! Bet it was a blast. Your car is one of the best I’ve seen on this website in my opinion.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-02-08 11:49 AM (#627443 - in reply to #111659)
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Car has hit pretty much perfection. Time to start on the next one
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wizard
Posted 2023-02-08 2:52 PM (#627446 - in reply to #111659)
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One of the very few customized cars I really like. Surely a lot of thinking and planning behind the final result.
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57burb
Posted 2023-02-08 5:43 PM (#627449 - in reply to #627446)
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Thank you all, I appreciate the compliments. I'm just glad I haven't screwed it up too bad since it was 'finished'.
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57burb
Posted 2023-05-05 1:21 PM (#629338 - in reply to #627449)
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Took the car to Lone Star Round Up again last month. There was a nice '57 Plymouth 4dr HT there and a (almost FL!) wildly chopped '53 Plymouth. Come on out to this huge show next year, we need more representation!



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