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Location: Williams California | I had been in contact with an elderly man that had no less than 5 Desotos on his property in southern Oregon. A customer had told me that he might be interested in selling them, as he had lost his ability to drive some years back. I called him many times, but his response was that he would have to go look at them to see what they were worth.
My customer called Thursday, to inform me that he had passed away, and his brother had moved in the clean the property up,as he wanted to sell it quickly, and the cars were available, at a price of $1000, but all had to be removed by Monday. By the time I was able to reach the brother, he had called a scrap yard to purchase the cars at the price of $1000. I convinced him to hold off until the weekend, and I guaranteed him that all cars would be gone by Sunday afternoon. He agreed to it, and here are some pics of the cars, none have been cleaned up. The red/white Firedome sedan runs good, and was stored inside since 1982. ---John
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Location: Williams California | Here are pics of the other three cars, still on the trailers. Note the spanish moss growing on a couple of the '59's. The '55 Firedome Coronado has excellent pit-free chrome, and an engine that was overhauled just before the owner lost his driving ability. ---John
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I have a friend in Vancouver, British Columbia who mentioned wanting to find a '55 DeSoto.
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Is that an added-on A/C condenser on the red car? Or a large tranny cooler?
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not a sedan guy, but I've always been partial to those '55 DeSoto Firedome (I think Fireflite offered 'em as well) Coronado's - the only DeSoto with a 3-tone paint job. Just a sharp car, even in decay. Think you'll be able to get it running?
Shoot, for $1,000, you can't shake a stick at any of those babies. Surface rust and moss abounds, but they're all straight as an arrow and complete - and one runs to boot!!! Any frame issues that you can see?
John, God bless you, guy. You're doing a hell of a service in rescuing these cars.
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Location: Minneapolis | Thank GOD you saved them!! To think they were that close to being sent off to the crusher makes me queasy.
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | I'm seeing signs posted all over town reading, "Junk Cars Wanted" with a telephone number. As we all know, scrap metal prices are very high at the moment.
One full size '50- mid '70s American car has plenty of steel. And theft of older radiators from vehicles as well as wiring from inside street light poles is rising.
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Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2007-11-12 3:37 PM
Is that an added-on A/C condenser on the red car? Or a large tranny cooler?
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Kenny, the old fellow had a few interesting ideas regarding his cars. The red car does have a trans cooler fabricated from an aftermarket A/C condenser, the sportsman 2-door hardtop has a '64 Chrysler dash fitted into it as well. The '55 Coronado looks like it will be a presentable car once the moss is washed off, I'll have to give 'er a good cleaning, and re-post some pics. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | Thanks for the comments. It looks like 4 of the five cars are complete and solid enough to warrant being saved as complete vehicles, the one '59 will be a good parts donor for the others. The three engines I have checked all still turn over. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2007-11-12 3:55 PM
I'm seeing signing posted all over town reading, "Junk Cars Wanted" with a telephone number. As we all know, scrap metal prices are very high at the moment.
One full size '50- mid '70s American car has plenty of steel. And theft of older radiators from vehicles as well as wiring from inside street light poles is rising.
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You're not kidding about these thefts, I know about it first hand. While I was away for my wedding, somebody got my gate open and went into my barn and stole 40-50 good radiators I had saved. Funny thing was, they walked by a plasma cutter, Miller welder, boxes of tools, etc. to get to the radiators. I'm sure it was some tweeker just after getting money for their next baggie. Someday, they'll get caught, but they had better hope it isn't me who catches them!!! ---John |
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Location: morehead, kentucky | DAm John you must be one of luckiest people on this planet to be able to find such god deals. It is sad the old guy had to pass away in order for you to get your hands on them, but sometime that is just the way it goes. It is also a shame that you had those radiators stolen. Did you check with you local scrap yard to see if anyone had brought them in for recycle. That is how abunch of people around here are getting caught. It had to be someone that knew you were gone and knew where the loot was at. Anyway congrats on recuing those Desotos. I still think you are lucky as hell,lol. |
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Location: DFW, TX | Great job, John! How much for the hardtop? hehehe |
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | 57burb - 2007-11-12 5:04 PM
Great job, John! How much for the hardtop? hehehe
Maybe I should trade my '57 Saratoga for that red sedan.....
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Location: bishop, ca | WHAT a Motherlode, John!
Hours away from being crushed!!!!????
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Location: Connecticut | Awesome find ! Just curious about the 55, though. It has a four barrel carb and chrome above the headlight doors. Could that be a Fireflite Coronado ? Does it have power windows or power seat ?
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Location: BELTSVILLE, MARYLAND 20705 | wow what a find, john i hope you got to walk around and scarf up all the parts you want. ive had some very good luck here on the east coast cleaning up old storage facilities and old junk yards. You really have to look around while you are there. Hemi's, 4 speeds, crossram parts etc,, even good fenders and hoods, dash clusters swivels??
keep looking, i would love to be there
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | ronbo97 - 2007-11-12 9:17 PM
Awesome find ! Just curious about the 55, though. It has a four barrel carb and chrome above the headlight doors. Could that be a Fireflite Coronado ? Does it have power windows or power seat ?
Nah, it's a Firedome Coronado, ronbo.
Yeah, I thought John's '55 above was a Fireflite initially (I thought you could get the Coronado option on both the Firedome AND Fireflite in '55, though it was only available for the one year and only on a 4 door sedan), but he says it's a Firedome.
Either way, if I had it to spare, I'd give AT THE ABSOLUTE VERY LEAST $1,000 for that beautiful Coronado alone - as she sits this moment.
Now, this gets me to wondering:
In 1955, Chrysler had the St. Regis option for the New Yorker hardtop, DeSoto had the Coronado option for the Firedome (and Fireflite?) 4 door sedan and Dodge had the La Femme option for the Custom Royal Lancer hardtop - was there a special paint/interior option of the like for Plymouth in 1955? |
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Location: The not-so-great, dirty-white North ( Michigan) | Great find, and great job for saving them from being Chinese brake rotors.....
BTW, I spy some Forwardlook engine parts in the background on a couple of those photos. Did you also get a chance to save any of the engine accessory stuff in those motor piles? |
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | DeSotohead - 2007-11-13 5:20 AM
Great find, and great job for saving them from being Chinese brake rotors.....
Or Chinese military items.............
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Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2007-11-12 5:09 PM
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Great job, John! How much for the hardtop? hehehe
Maybe I should trade my '57 Saratoga for that red sedan.....
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Location: Williams California | matador440 - 2007-11-12 8:29 PM
wow what a find, john i hope you got to walk around and scarf up all the parts you want. ive had some very good luck here on the east coast cleaning up old storage facilities and old junk yards. You really have to look around while you are there. Hemi's, 4 speeds, crossram parts etc,, even good fenders and hoods, dash clusters swivels??
keep looking, i would love to be there
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Location: Williams California | ronbo97 - 2007-11-12 8:17 PM
Awesome find ! Just curious about the 55, though. It has a four barrel carb and chrome above the headlight doors. Could that be a Fireflite Coronado ? Does it have power windows or power seat ?
Ron, the car has a power seat, but manual windows. I hate this daylight saving time change, there is no daylight left once I leave my office and head to the yard. ---John |
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | big m - 2007-11-13 9:53 AM
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57burb - 2007-11-12 5:04 PM
Great job, John! How much for the hardtop? hehehe
Maybe I should trade my '57 Saratoga for that red sedan.....
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I think my wife has dibs on the red sedan. She couldn't keep her eyes off of it once it had been unloaded. ---John
No problem, John....I must admit, I've always been a sucker for the '59 DeSotos/Chryslers, but I really like the single headlight '57 Chryslers.
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Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2007-11-13 10:02 AM
I believe we'd all like details on that coupe.
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I just found the keys and title to that one. I'll do a bit of rust checking when I get out to the yard. I do know that the hole in the bottom of the right door was not from rust, but from an overzealous neighbor pulling the car with his tractor to move it. A piece of equipment gashed the bottom of the door due to his carelessness. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2007-11-13 10:38 AM
That reminds me, John....................doesn't my Sarasota need a fuel tank? Would teh one from the '59 parts car fit?
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Sarasota? Have you got Florida on your mind? LOL! I'll check the tank to see if it appears OK, it will interchange with the Chrysler. OH, and I'll check to see if the parts car has tinted windows. ---John |
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Thanks....one of my brothers lives there, so that may be why.
Yeah, I may buy all the glass (if it's tinted) as I plan to drive the '57 a lot and will have to add A/C if it's going to be a summer car. Our daughter has all but commandeered the '68 Imperial. It looks like the Imperial is going be her first car. For her sake, I hope gasoline isn't much over $4.00 per gallon by the time she gets her license. With all the work she's helping me with and will be doing to that beast, it would be a shame if she couldn't afford to drive it....we will not take out a second mortgage just to fill the tank!
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Location: DFW, TX | John, I'm interested in the coupe if it is relatively rust-free and you want to sell it. I've got an idea for a mild custom and I think the '59 fin treatment would look good with an earlier front clip. Please let me know, thanks!
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Location: Bjorneborg, Finland | 1959Fury - 2007-11-13 1:27 PM
Nah, it's a Firedome Coronado, ronbo.
Yeah, I thought John's '55 above was a Fireflite initially (I thought you could get the Coronado option on both the Firedome AND Fireflite in '55, though it was only available for the one year and only on a 4 door sedan), but he says it's a Firedome.
The Coronado came as a springtime addition to Fireflite series in 1955. There wasn't such model like Firedome Coronado in that year ('54 was)..
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Kenny J. - 2007-11-12 5:09 PM
57burb - 2007-11-12 5:04 PM
Great job, John! How much for the hardtop? hehehe
Maybe I should trade my '57 Saratoga for that red sedan.....
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I think my wife has dibs on the red sedan. She couldn't keep her eyes off of it once it had been unloaded. ---John
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Location: Williams California | 57burb - 2007-11-13 11:04 AM
John, I'm interested in the coupe if it is relatively rust-free and you want to sell it. I've got an idea for a mild custom and I think the '59 fin treatment would look good with an earlier front clip. Please let me know, thanks!
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Danny, I need to look the coupe over better, to determine it's actual condition. I'll keep you posted. ---John |
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1959Fury - 2007-11-13 1:27 PM
Nah, it's a Firedome Coronado, ronbo.
Yeah, I thought John's '55 above was a Fireflite initially (I thought you could get the Coronado option on both the Firedome AND Fireflite in '55, though it was only available for the one year and only on a 4 door sedan), but he says it's a Firedome.
The Coronado came as a springtime addition to Fireflite series in 1955. There wasn't such model like Firedome Coronado in that year ('54 was )..
Great rescue, John. Hernando would be pleased.
Thanks for the clarification, Mark. I must have had Firedome on the brain!
Here are a couple pics of that very Desoto, after scrubbing most of the moss and pine pitch from the paint. Sorry for the marginal pics, it's a bit dark in the barn where I cleaned the car. ---John
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Location: DFW, TX | John, the '55 looks amazing! I actually like the flat paint. Heck, that old leaded enamel will shine up if there's enough to polish!
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | No problem, John. I actually thought that the Coronado option was available on both the Firedome and Fireflite for '55.
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | JOHN,,,,,,,,, Did you find the time to Clean the ALL the 59 Desoto,s and Photograph them,, I haven,t noticed any New Pic,s of them recently, I Know the 55 is going to Mark ( As he can,t stop Smiling ) ,, Just wondering what happened to the rest,, |
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Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Huh. TWO green DeSoto sedans. I guess the old guy liked green. The one with the moss looks like it's riding a little high. Has that engine been pulled or is that an optical illusion? |
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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK) | Hey John, if you still have that 55 Coronado, PM me on how much you want for it. Walt |
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Location: Fredrikstad, Norway. (Europe) | Now you guys understad how lucky you are to live in the U.S. when it comes to antique cars ? I sure hope you do appreciate it. Good luck to whoever get his hands on one of these cars, and I hope he will give them a good resto or shineup so they can be back on the streets for everybody to enjoy.
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Location: Williams California | wbower3 - 2007-12-28 9:24 AM
Hey John, if you still have that 55 Coronado, PM me on how much you want for it. Walt
Walt, I had given Mark a price of $3000 for the '55 once the lost title issue is resolved.
As to the other four cars, the red/white 4-door Firedome is in my wife's posession, got it cleaned up and running good, the pea green '59 4-door has been cleaned out, and was found to be entirely rust free, the light green '59 4-door is definitely a parts car, the trunk had been lined with rubber matting which held water in a pool inside, causind nasty black mold on everything inside, and the 2-door HT is still setting in the same place where photographed before. ---John |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | wbower3 - 2007-12-28 10:24 AM
Hey John, if you still have that 55 Coronado, PM me on how much you want for it. Walt
Taken, buster.
See: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17656&...
So, kindly keep to your present '55 while I keep to "mine", cool?
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Walt meet Mark,,,,, Mark be Polite !!!!!!!!!! LOL.......
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | big m - 2007-12-28 12:18 PM
wbower3 - 2007-12-28 9:24 AM
Hey John, if you still have that 55 Coronado, PM me on how much you want for it. Walt
Walt, I had given Mark a price of $3000 for the '55 once the lost title issue is resolved.
As to the other four cars, the red/white 4-door Firedome is in my wife's posession, got it cleaned up and running good, the pea green '59 4-door has been cleaned out, and was found to be entirely rust free, the light green '59 4-door is definitely a parts car, the trunk had been lined with rubber matting which held water in a pool inside, causind nasty black mold on everything inside, and the 2-door HT is still setting in the same place where photographed before. ---John
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Location: bishop, ca | It would appear that the two 59 green sedans' front & rear bumpers might already be claimed-for, by Melissa's red sedan
and for that white/red coupe, too.
Personally, I would hope that it gets to be fully restored, rather than customized, but money SPEAKS....
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ | 1959Fury - 2007-12-28 2:17 PM big m - 2007-12-28 12:18 PM wbower3 - 2007-12-28 9:24 AM Hey John, if you still have that 55 Coronado, PM me on how much you want for it. Walt Walt, I had given Mark a price of $3000 for the '55 once the lost title issue is resolved. As to the other four cars, the red/white 4-door Firedome is in my wife's posession, got it cleaned up and running good, the pea green '59 4-door has been cleaned out, and was found to be entirely rust free, the light green '59 4-door is definitely a parts car, the trunk had been lined with rubber matting which held water in a pool inside, causind nasty black mold on everything inside, and the 2-door HT is still setting in the same place where photographed before. ---John Considering the clime they were in, that's just amazing. You know Mark, those '55 grill teeth might look really good on the front of my Hudson Coupe! LOL |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | jsrail - 2007-12-28 3:36 PM
You know Mark, those '55 grill teeth might look really good on the front of my Hudson Coupe! LOL
Now, that's where John comes in.
When we were discussing our arrangement initially, he stated adamantly that he refuses to and would NOT be responsible for parting out an entirely restorable car. At the time (nearly 3 weeks ago), someone had already come in wanting to pick the hemi out of her and he'd have none of it.
You know what I'd do after winning the lottery? I'd give $500,000 for the first cherry '58 300 D coupe (or, better yet, ragtop), then part it out just to piss the rest of 'em off - being entirely on principle - that want to part out solid cars for their elitist "projects"..... |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | oldefar - 2007-12-28 10:50 AM
Now you guys understad how lucky you are to live in the U.S. when it comes to antique cars ? I sure hope you do appreciate it. Good luck to whoever get his hands on one of these cars, and I hope he will give them a good resto or shineup so they can be back on the streets for everybody to enjoy.
Einar in Norway.
That's my intent, Einar. The '55 Coronado will be - eventually - going to my loving home and be a daily driver once she's finished up.
She's going to have some modern touches (alternator guts in the generator, new A/C, re-wiring for 12V, electronic ignition, radial wide whites etc.), but otherwise she's gonna look and feel just like she did when she first rolled off the showroom floor. |
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Location: Williams California | 58 DESOTOS RULE - 2007-12-28 7:58 AM
Huh. TWO green DeSoto sedans. I guess the old guy liked green. The one with the moss looks like it's riding a little high. Has that engine been pulled or is that an optical illusion?
Stephen, it was probably because the car was blocked up on railroad ties to load on the trailer. It was the only one equipped with the poly engine, all others had the B-blocks. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | Someone had posted a Craigslist ad from Portland of two '59 Desoto sedans, I may have a trailer headed north to Canada with a '59 Ferd, and that would give me a load to go home if they are still available.
Weird. I never find '59 Desotos locally, and all of a sudden Oregon becomes a hotbed for them! ---John |
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Location: Scotland | jsrail - 2007-12-28 5:36 PM
. You know Mark, those '55 grill teeth might look really good on the front of my Hudson Coupe! LOL Jay,why would anyone need a desoto grille on a hudson
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Is that a '52 Hornet Hollywood hardtop, Mark?
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ | vedette - 2007-12-28 4:04 PM jsrail - 2007-12-28 5:36 PM . You know Mark, those '55 grill teeth might look really good on the front of my Hudson Coupe! LOL Jay,why would anyone need a desoto grille on a hudsonCome on guys...I was only kidding! Actually vedette, I wouldn't need another grill if I had a 51-53 Hudson grill, but mine's a '50. Ugly as sin....looks like an attic vent! Actually, I already have the '55 Olds grill insert in my garage thats going in her. Just thought I'd see if anyone was awake around here, referring to the Desoto teeth. I like them in sleds, but its been way overdone in my opinion and I want something a bit different. |
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