Re: convertible vs hard tops (plymouth)
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Re: convertible vs hard tops (plymouth)



We must have different parts books as mine lists the doors for a HT as 2425 773-3  for 1964 Dodge and Plymouth. and that parts book is right from the Plymouth  Dealers ship in Pa where I worked.  New numbers are assigned to the new parts for that year all other parts that are used from prior years retain the numbers that they had unless superseded with a new number. I do not need to download any parts books as I have them all for 1964 from dealer ship


From: "Bill Watson" <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "group" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 11:58:56 AM
Subject: Re: convertible vs hard tops (plymouth)

Sorry, but that does not hold water.   Chrysler started using part numbers back in the 1920's so the second decade would be the 1930's and thus "24" would be 1934.  Also, under the system you describe, the "1" for the first decade would be 1950's.   However, 1946-1949 cars used part numbers beginning with "1" and 1949 going up to "13xx xxx".  By your decoding,  "13xx xxx" should be for a 1953 model.  But it's not.   Note sure who came up with the decade/year system, but I wish they had taken the time to verify the system works.  Because it does not.  As you can tell, this is not the first time I have run into this decoding system.  Would like to know how part numbers 6000 001 and up are squared away.  They started in 1957.
  
Now, if you checked the 1963 passenger car parts book you would find the lowest number is 50 082, for a Water Outlet Elbow Gasket" for V8 engines (A, B, RB) and run up through 1400 xxx, 1500 xxx, 1600 xxx, 1700 xxx, 1800 xxx, 1900 xxx, 2000 xxx, 2100 xxx, 2200 xxx, (skips 2300 xxx), 2400 xxx, to 2486 042, "Link, Rear Door Locking Control" for Plymouth and Dodge (TP and TD).

The numbers restart at 6000 050 and goes up to 6025 084, then jumps to 9405 928 finally ending at 9418 772.  Lots of jumping around for the 94xx xxx numbers.   The 6000 xxx numbers are for trim pieces and the sequence was first used in 1957.

The 2300 001 to 2399 999 sequence is not in any passenger car book I have.  Do not have truck parts books for 1961-1968 so cannot tell where the numbers were used.   Chrysler Engineering may have used them for Australian or some other subsidiary.  Or, they may have been assigned to parts but the project was cancelled.  Such as Exner's "S" series for 1962 with the curved side panels and windows.  That whole block of numbers may have been set aside and used for parts assigned to the "S" series cars.  But when the project was cancelled, all the number assigned to the "S" series were cancelled.   Something similar occurred for the stillborn 1962 DeSoto (a Chrysler Newport with DeSoto nameplates).  When the DeSoto was cancelled, someone took a pen and X'd out all the part numbers assigned to the 1962 DeSoto.   Part numbers were never re-issued.  (As per article by Jeff Godshall in Collectible Automobile on the S Series cars).

Part numbers were assigned numerically and each part was given a unique number.   If a group of parts was assembled and marketed as one assembled piece, a part number was also assigned to the assembled part.  Casting numbers were also recorded along with the part numbers.   No duplication of casting numbers and / or part numbers.  And Chrysler added different styles of part number layouts to handle items such as vinyl roofs, colours of upholstery, upholstery materials, etc.

Go to this website and download the 1963 parts book.  All my numbers will be verified.  And also check out the part numbers for cars built in the 1970's and 1980's. 




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On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 05:07, Dave Orr <fe2orr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From all I have been told and read in parts books for the past 40 years is the mopar  parts numbers for the 60’s can be deciphered as first number  2 is the decade, second number is the year, the rest are the part. There fore 2425 088 would be a 1964 part number not a 63 part number any one starting with 24 is 1964 part number. Could be used after 64 but not before unless it replaces the 63 part.

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On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:02 AM, Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

1963 Plymouth doors are the same as 1963 Dodge doors.  Although the floor pan is 3" longer on the Dodge non-wagon models, the doors (even the rear ones) are the same for both Plymouth and Dodge.

Thus the doors are shared - front -
4 door sedan & wagon - 2425 088 / 089
4 door hardtop - 2425 090 / 091
2 door sedan - 2425 092 / 093
2 door hardtop and convertible - 2425 094 / 095

Rear -
4 door sedan & wagon - 2425 108 / 109
4 door hardtop - 2425 110 / 111

The 1963 Plymouth / Dodge doors do not interchange with 1962, 1964 or 1965 models.

Part number - 2425 088 / 089  (Mopar shorthand) :
Right - 2425 088
Left - 2425 089

As for windshields, the 1963 and 1962 Plymouths and Dodges all shared the same unit, regardless of body style -
Clear - 2166 114  NAGS : W617
Tint - 2167 733    NAGS : WT617

Rear window glass is the same on all 1963 Plymouth and  Dodges, except wagons :
Clear -  2244 011   NAGS  B3158
Tint -  2244 032     NAGS  BT3158

The NAGS number is used by auto glass shops.






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On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 14:10, jack cheek <jcheek123456@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi all
will someone help me with these questions--will 63 plymouth convertible (fury)doors work on a 63 plymouth hard top-also will the front windsheild from a 63 plymouth fury convertible work on a 63 dodge polara h.t.
thanks jack
63 plymouth fury convertible-not running
63 plymouth belvedere 4 door--parts car
63 dodge polara 500 h.t.-factory 383
65 dodge 440 coronet convertible-440 with max wedge top end

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