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Because thats what the factory stamped there
before they did VINs.
Darwin
BC Canada
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:33
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Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN
Why would a sales order number be on the rad support?
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iPad
David...you need to read all the other
posts in this thread. The number posted is an SO (sales order) number, and
cannot be connected to a Vin without a broadcast sheet, which Bob doesn't
have, so it looks like a state-issued VIN is in his future.
Darwin
BC Canada
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:05
PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN
Does not refer to any ref. I have for vin numbers or part
number
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On
top, drivers side.
is that number on the rad
support??
From:
"65" <65val@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent:
Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:03:32 PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda
VIN
Robert...like
I mentioned in previous messages, that is the SO (Sales Order) number,
and will not decode to anything without the cars build sheet. If you
don't have the build sheet, you are SOL. I would try for a state-issued
VIN and carry on.
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Sent:
Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject:
Re: Barracuda VIN
Hi - after
doing some paint removal I uncovered the 10 digit number shown in the
pic below. It does not appear to decode to anything unless I am using
the wrong on-line decoder. The number is 5211330165. Any
thoughts?
![image1.jpeg]()
Yes once
something happens with a VIN plate there's no way to get it
completely fixed like original which is really harsh when it's a
collector car.
Bill -
no title but the MAINE DMV will issue a state VIN now that I
have demonstrated my efforts to deal with the problem. I am about
ready to crash the legal case. It has cost me thousands so far and
to go all the way to court would leave me with little after
attorney fees. I was hoping to settle but that is not going to
happen. Lousy situation.
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iPhone
The
way I would handle this if it were my car, in addition to going
after the restoration contractor, is to seek a court order to
have your local DMV issue a VIN to the car as a 65. You are not
going to be able to (legally anyway) make a new VIN plate with
the original factory VIN on it, no state allows that AFAIK, but
you can get a state issued VIN and have the correct year
associated to it with a court order. Each state has its own
specific exact procedure for this and its own forms. I've
successfully gotten court orders for two vehicles to get them
titled to me when there was no way to do it using any Indiana
BMV procedures. You could make an exhibit of photos for the
court of different years of Barracudas and comparing to photos
of your own car. Obvious differences between 65 and 66 not so
obvious between 65 and 64 of course but there are things like
the pushbutton shift v the floor shift. The information
from the Chrysler Historical would be a bonus proof and your car
does have a SON on it. They do require a copy of title and I
don't recall if you said you have a title with the original VIN.
Good luck I know it isn't quick or
easy.
Bill
- the car is definitely a 65 but the VIN plate is a 66. This
has been a nightmare. I can't legally drive it or sell
it and the value has plummeted. Eventually the state may issue
its own VIN to mist the car legal but that will again
significantly affect value. The restorer obviously switched
VIN plates for whatever reason (stolen car, junked, theft
maybe) but the law in Maine where I live and NH where I bought
it are not straightforward on this type of fraud.
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from my iPad
i
dont think you will find any letters only numbers, look on
the back side, eng. side of the rad. support. I was told
numbers on top of the rad. support are california plant
only.
On
Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:06 PM, 65 <65val@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bob....should
look something like this....under the anti-freeze decal,
drivers' side of rad support...
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Sent:
Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:54
PM
Subject:
Re: Barracuda VIN
Bill
- I'm trying to visualize how to view the number with a
mirror and exactly where the number is located on the
support. I found what appears to be a part number half way
down the support on the drivers side (2 letters and 3
digits) Thanks
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iPhone
The
SON (Shipping Order Number) should be on the body tag
attached to the driver's side inner fender.
It was stamped onto the top of the radiator support
along with the digits for the assembly plant and model
year added to the beginning of the sequence. So,
basically you would have the assembly plant, model year,
scheduled built date and sequence number. The
build record from Chrysler Historical would have both
the VIN and the SON, tying both together,
The
number would be covered by the sticker for the
antifreeze but it can be viewed using a mirror to see
the under side of the radiator
support,
This
only applies to American-built A body cars.
Canadian-built cars had no SON attached to the car or
the body tag.
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