Why would a sales order number be on the rad support?
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David...you need to read all the other posts
in this thread. The number posted is an SO (sales order) number, and cannot be
connected to a Vin without a broadcast sheet, which Bob doesn't have, so it
looks like a state-issued VIN is in his future.
Darwin
BC Canada
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:05
PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN
Does not refer to any ref. I have for vin numbers or part
number
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On
top, drivers side.
is
that number on the rad support??
From:
"65" <65val@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent:
Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:03:32 PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda
VIN
Robert...like I
mentioned in previous messages, that is the SO (Sales Order) number, and
will not decode to anything without the cars build sheet. If you don't have
the build sheet, you are SOL. I would try for a state-issued VIN and carry
on.
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Sent:
Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject:
Re: Barracuda VIN
Hi - after
doing some paint removal I uncovered the 10 digit number shown in the pic
below. It does not appear to decode to anything unless I am using the
wrong on-line decoder. The number is 5211330165. Any
thoughts?
![image1.jpeg]()
Yes once
something happens with a VIN plate there's no way to get it completely
fixed like original which is really harsh when it's a collector car.
Bill - no
title but the MAINE DMV will issue a state VIN now that I have
demonstrated my efforts to deal with the problem. I am about ready to
crash the legal case. It has cost me thousands so far and to go all
the way to court would leave me with little after attorney fees. I was
hoping to settle but that is not going to happen. Lousy
situation.
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The way
I would handle this if it were my car, in addition to going after
the restoration contractor, is to seek a court order to have your
local DMV issue a VIN to the car as a 65. You are not going to be
able to (legally anyway) make a new VIN plate with the original
factory VIN on it, no state allows that AFAIK, but you can get a
state issued VIN and have the correct year associated to it with a
court order. Each state has its own specific exact procedure for
this and its own forms. I've successfully gotten court orders for
two vehicles to get them titled to me when there was no way to do it
using any Indiana BMV procedures. You could make an exhibit of
photos for the court of different years of Barracudas and comparing
to photos of your own car. Obvious differences between 65 and 66 not
so obvious between 65 and 64 of course but there are things like the
pushbutton shift v the floor shift. The information from the
Chrysler Historical would be a bonus proof and your car does have a
SON on it. They do require a copy of title and I don't recall if you
said you have a title with the original VIN. Good luck I know it
isn't quick or easy.
Bill -
the car is definitely a 65 but the VIN plate is a 66. This has
been a nightmare. I can't legally drive it or sell it and
the value has plummeted. Eventually the state may issue its own
VIN to mist the car legal but that will again significantly affect
value. The restorer obviously switched VIN plates for whatever
reason (stolen car, junked, theft maybe) but the law in Maine
where I live and NH where I bought it are not straightforward on
this type of fraud.
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iPad
i
dont think you will find any letters only numbers, look on the
back side, eng. side of the rad. support. I was told numbers on
top of the rad. support are california plant only.
On
Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:06 PM, 65 <65val@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bob....should
look something like this....under the anti-freeze decal,
drivers' side of rad support...
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Subject:
Re: Barracuda VIN
Bill
- I'm trying to visualize how to view the number with a mirror
and exactly where the number is located on the support. I
found what appears to be a part number half way down the
support on the drivers side (2 letters and 3 digits)
Thanks
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The
SON (Shipping Order Number) should be on the body tag
attached to the driver's side inner fender. It
was stamped onto the top of the radiator support along with
the digits for the assembly plant and model year added to
the beginning of the sequence. So, basically you would
have the assembly plant, model year, scheduled built date
and sequence number. The build record from Chrysler
Historical would have both the VIN and the SON, tying both
together,
The
number would be covered by the sticker for the antifreeze
but it can be viewed using a mirror to see the under side of
the radiator support,
This
only applies to American-built A body cars.
Canadian-built cars had no SON attached to the car or the
body tag.
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