Re: In tank fuel pump (WAS: Re: My Car's New Trick)

Thank you Nick for reference to the article on installing and “in tank” fuel pump.

Does anyone have quantifiable information on the difference in fuel temps between an in-tank pump and the external electric pump? I may do some research on my own and if I find anything worthy I will let the group know.

Gary P.

From: furyus63@xxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:17 PM

To: 1962to1965mopars

Subject: Re: In tank fuel pump (WAS: Re: My Car's New Trick)

My thoughts on advantages of the fuel pump in the tank is to overcome some of the problems caused by new fuels. Access to our tanks is nothing more than one strap holding it in place. Here is some thought to start with.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/1409-upgrading-a-mopar-fuel-system/

Nick

From: "Gary Pavlovich" <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: In tank fuel pump (WAS: Re: My Car's New Trick)

Thank you Nick for the comprehensive list of stations and Ethanol-free fuels with pricing. I won’t complain about our 91 unleaded “premium” w/up to 10% Ethanol laden swamp water here in southern California.

With my vintage Mopars, I always add Lucas Fuel Treatment and TORCO Accelerator to our fuels to protect against detonation. I haven’t had any Ethanol issues though in over 25yrs. of driving with our fuels.

I use Carter electric fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulators, and over 1.5” of laminated hardwood spacer under my Thermoquad 850cfm carbs; keeps the fuel much cooler than otherwise; –70F heat reduction w/laminated wood spacers and –20F with the phenolic resin Thermoquad carburetor float body. I will be adding a cool can, RPM Air Gap (from LD340 intake) and cold air induction to my 340 car later this year to further enhance fuel temps to the carburetor.

Nick, what is your thoughts on the advantage of having a fuel pump inside the tank like new vehicles? The new cars need cool fuel to extend the life of the pump but I would prefer the external Carter/Holley/Mallory style pumps externally mounted for easier access on our 50-60’s Hot-Rods.

Gary P.

From: Bob

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 6:49 AM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: In tank fuel pump (WAS: Re: My Car's New Trick)

How tough would it be to cobble up a pump onto the plate that holds the fuel sender? But clearance could be an issue??

On 5/8/2016 8:34 AM, furyus63@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Gary & others,

Well most everyone knows CT. is not one of the top 10 places to live anymore. I am not surprised at the cost of this fuel since it's always been our normal. Back in 2002 when I bought my Fury Sunoco ethanol free gasoline was $8.00 at the pump for Sunoco at this same Fairfield station. What does surprise me is the low cost some of you have in other states. Here in CT. most of our fuel arrives by ship in the port of New Haven or Bridgeport. CT allows a destination charge from the port storage to the dealer, ie. mileage.

This morning I checked with Pure Fuel Gas Stations and they list 14 distributors of ethanol free gasoline. I checked each of the 14 stations and also learned that these gasoline also contains lead, which I did not know.

Happy Mother's Day fuel prices;

                                                                            Octane               Price per gal.

Berlin                 Shell                                         110                      9.99

Burlington          Sunoco                                      94 98 110         ?

Fairfield              Sunoco                                     94                       15.00

Farmington         Advanced Equip                       94                       ?

Haddam             Alan's Small Engine Service     95                       ?

Lakeville             Limerock Park                          93                       6.50

New Britain         Gallo Auto Sunoco                   98 110 112       ?

New Milford        RT Layton Co.                          112                     9.50

Old Saybrook     Saybrook Lawn & Power          94                       ?

Plainville             VP Racing                                102                     ?

Stamford             Sunoco                                     95                      16.00

Taftville               CB Fabrication                          95 102 112      ?

Windsor              Sunoco                                     110                     9.99

Woodstock         Tractor Supply                          94 98 115         ?

Living with our vintage cars and ethanol. Again I would like to see a conversion unit made with a reliable electric fuel pump to fit our 62-65 gas tanks making our cars as reliable as our daily drivers.

Nick T.

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