Re: 225/Oil

I picked up on that MO,, but was not surprised to see the subject take off. As you know, I am also a Harley guy, and if you want to raise all kinds of hell in a Harley forum,, bring up oil or tires !!! I worked from an early age in an old style service station, of which I became a part owner. The norm in the 70's was 2 to 3 thousand miles. Many would skip the filter every other change (mostly cheby guys). Oil came out black, smelly and seemed ready to go most times. That all changed with the Mobil One. ( we were Mobil jobbers at the time). 10-40 and 15-40 was big at the time,, and Quaker State (Quaker Mistake as we called it) had a big problem with oil that wouldn't flow at low temps. Turned into a great sales pitch for me. I'd set a quart of Mobil one, a quart of Quaker Mistake, and a Quart of Pennzoil outside all winter.(Northern Iowa, sub zero temps the norm) When a customer came in I'd grab the Mobil 1, shake it (you could hear the oil slosh back and forth), then do the same with the others which wouldn't move at all. Then I'd ask, "which do you think is going to protect your engine at start up ? " Sold a lot of Mobil 1 5W20 that way.

I run 10-30 Valvoline racing oil (has zinc) in the 63,(on subject content) everything else from the Harley, to my old pickup to my wifes new Journey has Mobil one. I change oil fall and spring regardless of mileage. 140,000 miles on the old Durango that way, never a problem. Dakota has endured 11 years of the same, no problem. Bottom line with oil, buy quality oil, keep it clean. Todays technology far outweighs the old ways in oil. Not something to worry much about in my never to be humble opinion.

Thanx for the levity MO. Got it

Doug

'63 Sport Fury ragtop. (with good clean oil)

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Steve Mick <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My post about which oil to use in a slant six was my feeble attempt at humor. There were so many different opinions about a slant six, just as there is about which oil is best. I could mention several subjects that are sure to cause another debate in forums. But if there were no different opinions--how dull would this world be?....................MO

{Steve Mick}
http://stevemick1964dodge.shutterfly.com/pictures/5

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From: Daniel "SlantSixDan" Stern

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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 12:25 AM

Subject: Re: 225/Oil

On Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:46:40 UTC-7, Plucked Chicken wrote:

Well peeps most def change oil too often - with the 3,000 / 2 month mantra still being promoted by quick oil change places, and auto parts chains.

This is absolutely true. The 3,000-mile oil change is one of many oil-related myths flushing around in the autosphere. Some of these myths are grossly outdated "wisdom" passed down through generations or clung to long past their expiry dates. Some of them are put out by scam artists selling miracle oil additives or "engine treatments" or toilet paper oil filters other such bulk wrap. Some of them are (do I sound like a broken record yet?) the result of people misunderstanding what they think they've seen. And some of them are just made up out of whole cloth.

Today's engine oil is vastly better than yesterday's. Yes, even for flat-tappet engines. Yes, even without high levels of zinc. And it's possible to buy much better filters today than we could back in the nonexistent "good" old days. But the myths persist, so a lot of people use oil of inappropriately high viscosity rating, play Driveway Petrochemist with additives and "treatments", and change the oil far too often. Heavier-viscosity oil is only "better" if you are trying to squeeze the last few miles out of a whipped engine overdue for a rebuild. In an engine in basically good condition, a high viscosity oil (20w50, straight 30, etc.) does NOT protect anything better. All it does is reduce fuel economy and performance and greatly accelerate engine wear (takes forever to reach critical junctions on cold startup).

But oil-related matters are a matter of deeply-held religious beliefs for a lot of car guys. Right or wrong, they're very certain and will not be convinced to abandon the mayhem they're perpetrating on their cars.

\6D

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