Re: Re:

The engine is Steve Andracheck’s and I know he did not misrepresent any of the numbers. His machinist was not Hughes Engines. It is my contention that the 440 Wedge has more than 8 to 1 “true” compression and the builder did not give Steve all the accurate info.

There is 125ft.lbs. of cranking compression in this engine with a large cam(246/254@.050” .600/.610”). A large cam will bleed much of the cranking compression and build it on the “other end” with RPM; dynamic compression gets the job done.

One indicator of an honest dyno sheet is that HP and Torque will always “meet” at 5250rpm.

It is possible for a 9-9.25 engine, with the right components, to make big HP and Torque. I know that Steve’s components are from Hughes and are a sound package...a timeslip will, as some have said, will be a good another verification of power transmitted and I am looking forward to some impressive timeslips if he can get traction.

Gary Pavlovich

From: D J

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:09 PM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re:

The only problem is disbelieving Cory, 
this is on Hughes web site for all to see and they are Mopar guys who built the 
engine. Why would they want a faults statement on their web site. Are there 
other factors at work here? I'm guessing that you can fudge the figures some 
what, but why do that, it is there graph.  
 
DJ


From: Cory Rempel 
<cory_383@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 
3:58 PM
Subject: 
RE:
 

Yeah I'm not buying this story either.  
Especially the part about lower octane gas giving you more power.  If that 
was true NHRA cars would be using regular gas instead of alcohol.  Not 
buying the low compression thing either.  Again, reference NHRA.  
Maybe the guy only thinks he's got a screamer cuz he's only used to driving cars 
like Chevettes?  If so then yeah, he's got a rocket.

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:12:00 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: 
lightsplicer@xxxxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dyno 
numbers are only as good as the operator. I'm calling BS on those numbers 
without a power adder. ETs are all that matters anyway.
On Jul 12, 2012 7:34 AM, "D J" <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A friend of mine built this 440 and it says he has 
  8:1 compression? I know there are guys on this list who are far smarter than 
  me when it comes to building and figuring out engines? My question is: Is this 
  possible with than low of compression? It is on Hugh's website. Please excuse 
  no heading, 'puter is acting up.
 
 I built a low-compression, high horsepower 440. I took 
  it out last night and it just flies! You have to be careful or it will get 
  away from you. You also better already have a plan thought out that no matter 
  what goes wrong, you have a counter-move already thought up and you put it to 
  use instantly. Because that's all the time you will have to think and 
  react.
The engine builder didn't cut the deck to zero, I 
  used, I think .020" Felpro head gasket, the combustion chamber had been 
  modified and my hot cranking pressure was only 125 PSI. They used 93 octane 
  gas when 87 octane gas would have given me even more HP. I hit 572.5 HP at 
  5900 RPM and 562.5 ft. lbs. of torque at 4500 rpm and that's "corrected" HP. 
  Actual HP that day when the air temp in the garage was only 60 degrees and 
  full of oxygen would have been over 600 HP, I'm sure. I've seen them test 
  engines in contests and some engines making well over 600 HP that don't make 
  as much torque as my engine does and they are running hotter cams and much 
  higher compression. I have read time and time again in magazines that if you 
  have large ports and too much carberration your car won't have any bottom end 
  and it will bog when you stomp on the gas pedal. Not my car! Stomp on the gas 
  pedal and the 8 1/2" B.F. Goodrich street slicks start melting, the rpms shoot 
  up to 6300 rpm, then the slicks start to catch, the rpm drops back to 5500 rpm 
  and I can shift anywhere up to 7000 rpm with no problems.
I blame Hughes Engines for all that horsepower and 
  torque from a stock 440 block bored .040 over with probably less than 8.0 
  compression and an original Max Wedge intake that isn't supposed to work this 
  well. Your cams and rocker arms and shafts are the best in the business. My 
  cam (HTL4852BS) is only the third hottest solid lifter flat tappet cam with 
  248 degrees duration on the intake and 252 degrees duration on the exhaust and 
  with 1.6 ratio rocker arms it has .600 lift on the intake side and .610 lift 
  on the exhaust side. Its as hot a cam as you could use on the street. I makes 
  so much torque on the bottom end its unbelievable and when you see the HP and 
  torque graph and how flat it is, just give all of yourselves a big pat on the 
  back because you people make the best Mopar cams on the planet and the best 
  rocker arms and shafts, pushrods, etc. If it comes from Hughes you know its 
  right and if by chance something is wrong you people will bend over backwards 
  to make things right. You don't blow off anyone who has any questions for you. 
  Everyone at Hughes is knowledgeable, kind and generous plus being extremely 
  helpful. I have been passing the word about Hughes Engines on some car forums 
  and you got some customers who didn't even know you existed because of me and 
  all the people who deal with you are extremely happy with your service and 
  your parts. A better Mopar place doesn't exist on this planet.
I got one of the first set of Edlebrock Victor heads 
  from you with the extended ports and with the 75 cc combustion chamber and 
  with Keith Black pistons I used it was supposed to have 10.9 compression. 
  Because of the metal taken out of the combustion chamber, using a thick head 
  gasket and the engine builder not decking the block at zero is the reason the 
  compression is so low but that turned out to be a blessing rather than a 
  curse.
The power is "corrected" HP, not actual HP, which 
  would have been a lot more as actual HP as the air was thick as the barometer 
  was at 28.03 the day I dyno'd my engine, the lowest the dyno man had ever seen 
  and the air was thick with oxygen. Actual HP would have been at least 600 HP 
  that day and if they had used 87 octane gas and raised the temp. to 180 on the 
  coolant it would have cracked 600 "corrected" HP anyway. This motor is a beast 
  and screams on 87 octane gas.
   Use any part of this email on your web 
  site if you wish. You guys deserve all the credit in the world for making my 
  dream come true and you were always more than helpful and you never turned 
  your backs on me. You are the BEST MOPAR PLACE ON THE PLANET, hands 
  down.
Chick
 
Stock Stroke Low Compression (around 8:1) 440 
  engine
Camhsaft: HTL4852BS
HP: 572.5 @ 5900 
  rpm
Torque: 562.5 ft/lbs @ 4500 rpm 
 
DJ

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