Re: Missing cylinders

[Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Don,

The RJ12YC is what I've been running for about 2 years and is what
fouled.  The Autolite 85 is what I just put in.  I was only thinking
maybe there's a difference between 2 and 4 barrel carbs, but I have no
clue.  Is the the Autolite 85 a good plug to run for a 383 4 barrel
Carter AFB?

- Jim
Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
'63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
'63 Polara 500 (383)
'65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
'71 Bronco


On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I can't imagine why a change in carb would dictate a change in plug heat range.
> A J-9Y should be a colder running plug and would tend to foul easier.  That is
> very high on my list of suspects for you bad running engine problem.  New plugs
> will run fine for a while but will eventually foul if they are too cold a plug.
> Go back to the RJ12YC plugs or the Autolite equivalent.
>
> Akron Don Gallimore
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sat, November 26, 2011 10:58:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Missing cylinders
>>
>> Thanks Nick and all.  Vacuum is cool; learning a lot.
>>
>> Made some progress.  This is regarding my 383 4 barrel Carter AFB
>> missing cylinders.  First thing I did was replace the plugs with
>> Autolite 85 plugs.  Big difference; car's running well right away; I
>> don't think I'm missing any now.  But they're all the same fouled "wet
>> fouling with small deposits".
>>
>> I was using Champion RJ12YC plugs.  These were recommended in the
>> manual for the 383 2 barrel which is what I originally had.  But a
>> couple of years ago I replaced the 2 barrel with a 4 barrel Carter
>> AFB.  The manual for a 383 4 Barrel says J-9Y.  Maybe this is why
>> they're fouled?  Since I went to the 4 barrel should I be using a
>> different plug and would that make a difference?  The ones I just put
>> in are Autolite 85; is that OK?
>>
>> Vacuum from the PVC valve reads what looks like a pretty steady 18
>> with about a 1 pound constant fluctuation either way; very rapid
>> flapping.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'm planning to dig into the timing and idle mixture
>> adjustments.  One strange thing though.  I checked the distributor and
>> rotor.  Rotor is a little bit more burned on one edge of the contact,
>> and if I look at the distributor contacts. a couple of cylinders are
>> more clearly burned dead center.  Then as you move around, the
>> cylinder connections become more burned to the right, then they drift
>> back again toward center.  In other words, the 'burn marks' aren't
>> dead center on each contact inside the distributor; it drifts off and
>> then back again over the eight.  This seems strange to me.  If the
>> timing were off, wouldn't each cylinder 'burn mark' be the off by the
>> same amount?
>>
>> The distributor doesn't have points; when I got the car 4 or 5 years
>> back it had already been replaced.  I'm not sure if it's Mopar or
>> Pertronix or what.  Below are a couple of photos.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/115013310552314897903/November262011
>>
>> My plan is to adjust the timing and then idle mixture and keep on eye
>> on the vacuum.  I'm not an expert at tuning but always looking to
>> learn.  Any comments, advice or tips are much appreciated.
>>
>> As always, thank.
>>
>> - Jim
>> Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
>> '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
>> '63 Polara 500 (383)
>> '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
>> '71 Bronco
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM,  <furyus63@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Jim,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you decide to go the vacuum gauge route, here is another good chart for
>> > trouble shooting, two pages with 17 readings.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nick Tiberio
>> >
>> > FuryUs63
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: "Richard Kinsley" <leroar.kinsley058@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:33:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Missing cylinders
>> >
>> > Hook a vac gauge up to it too and see what the needle does. It can be a very
>> > helpful tool.
>> >
>> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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