RE: My 67 valiant

What was the dollar amount on that build? I had no idea a 318 poly could make that kind of power. Step by step info would be real nice.

> From: glpavlovich@xxxxxxx
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 318poly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: My 67 valiant
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:50:30 -0800
>
> I thought the "Polyheads" on these lists might enjoy reading Jason's
> comments on the mild 256/.435" Poly cam I sent for his cool Valiant; a link
> to his video at the end of this thread.\
>
> Gary Pavlovich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Pavlovich
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: Jason Rhoades
> Subject: Re: My 67 valiant
>
> Great! Now you know why I like these motors. The 318 Poly will REV to the
> moon in stock stroke form, and seemingly well-beyond the cam profile's RPM
> Power limit. I cam I sent you is what we call "Little Big-Cam" and is the
> 1957 dual quad grind with some "improvements" to the original profile.
> Trucks have used this cam with outstanding results and have beaten NEW RAM
> and other brand pickups in various off-road races...
>
> I just send one of my friends a "large" solid Poly HP Cam along with a set
> of ported Poly heads as he wanted to go to the next level (faster) with his
> hot '64 Poly-Powered Polara. He did a few test runs and said he could
> barely hold the car with the power-braking method; it wanted to launch with
> his 3000stall convertor. When he let it go, he said the engine spun quickly
> to 7500RPM and was still pulling..."WOW!" was the exclamation in his e-mail
> story to me as well. The cam profile is 284/.510" (242@.050")110LC. As
> expected, with only a Poly motor, there is no lack of "bottom-end" with this
> cam and Rich's engine/driveline package. Usually a "large cam" trades upper
> power for a reduction in low RPM power/or torque, but not here; he says
> appears to idle much smoother "down low" but this is also due to the ported
> heads superior breathing and subsequent increase in both HP & Torque under
> 3000RPM.
>
> A Stroked Poly has the best of both worlds as well; only like being on
> steroids. It doesn't behave as a typical stroked engine. The 390-402
> Stroker Poly will REV like a small block and make power like a big block;
> you should hear them on the dyno at 6000-6500RPM...they make music; much
> like a HEMI. I have all the Stroker videos but the files are usually too
> large to send over e-mail but I will try to send you one of the smallest
> files.
>
> You mentioned the GMC V-6 style of torque inherent in the 318 Poly; you can
> check out the 390 Stroker Poly dyno sheet of Jeremy's motor and see the very
> high & flat HP & Torque curve that just hangs high and flat like a deisel.
> Note the "average" HP & Torque levels; 428ft.lbs.TORQUE from 3400-5400RPM
> and 375HP from 3700-5700RPM. Even though the peak numbers are impressive at
> 412HP @5500RPM and 438TORQUE @ 3900RPM, it is the unmatchable high/flat HP
> & Torque Averages over this broad 2000+RPM range that will allow you to
> "take-on" the guy with a motor boasting much higher HP numbers as you will
> take him off-the-line and your inertia will put you at the lights before he
> winds up to reach his "peak" power; this is especially true against the
> Chevrolet small blocks.
>
> Bottom line, in either stock stroke 318 cid. profile or "long arm" Stroker
> versions, the modified Poly engine is unarguably your best choice of
> indigenous powerplant for the 450HP & 450 Torque and under requirements.
>
> Anyhow, keep me/us posted on your adventures and let me know if I can
> forward this post to the 62-65 Mail List and the 318POLY Yahoo list.
>
> Gary Pavlovich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Rhoades
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: Gary Pavlovich
> Subject: RE: My 67 valiant
>
> Wow . we flogged the poly Saturday and I must say I was supprised. That
> thing will wind up fast and tight. We tightened up the air door a little on
> the carb .otherwise it is just as you shipped it to me. Runs very well not
> too rich. And did I mention will swallow the 750 carb at 1500rpm in third
> gear. Gulp and gone!!! My friend that is helping me tune it was like see
> if you can dump the 4 barrels at 3 grand. I shoved it into 3 and nailed it
> at 1500 and said like that? He was dumbfounded we normally only play with
> big blocks and we think small blocks are sissy motors. But I think this one
> has monster torque down low. Drives like a gmc v-6 think 1960's v-6 I
> have a 401 magnum google them and you will see what I mean. But they will
> pull down to 500 rpm and keep pullng. This is the same way. Wow!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Pavlovich [mailto:glpavlovich@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:38 PM
> To: Jason Rhoades
> Subject: Re: My 67 valiant
>
> Jason,
>
> Yes, 3.91 gears are too steep for that camshaft as well. That cam likes
> stock to 3.23 gears for effortless driving on the freeway and in-town
> traffic. However, you do have a bad 3.91 gear set which clouds the issue.
> Sure, whenever you are ready, I have all the cam profiles to suit your
> taste. A good street/strip combo for your car, much like a 340 setup but
> stronger, is the 264/.450" (222@.050") 110LC solid cam profile or its
> 262/.460" (214@.050") 110LC Hydraulic counterpart; I attached a video/sound
> byte of the 262HYD. cam for your smiles...nice.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Rhoades
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:54 PM
> To: Gary Pavlovich
> Subject: RE: My 67 valiant
>
> SO IVE GOTTEN TO DRIVE THE CAR ABOUT 6-8 MILES NOW. AND MAN DO I HATE IT!
> THE 391 GEARS ARE KILLING ME. THEY MUST BE WELDED CAUSE THERE IS NO GIVE
> WHEN I TURN AND THE REAR END HOWL LIKE A RELLY BAD HOWLER. O WELL JUST
> MORE KINKS TO WORK OUT THE EXHAUST SOUNDS GOOD. USED CHAMBERED MUFFLERS AND
> 2" DROPS INTO 2-1/4 PIPE. COULDN'T GET ANYTHING BIGGER TO WEDGE UP TO THE
> MANIFOLDS. WINDS UP NICE. NEED TO DIAL IN THE ALIGNMENT ALSO . WANTS TO
> EXIT STAGE RITE. REAL BAD!! BUT WHEN I GOUGE ON THE GO PEDDAL AND ROW THE
> GEARS IT REALLY JUMPS. AWSOME!! CANT WAIT TO GETE THE INTERIOR FINISHED TO
> QUIET THE INSIDE UP A BIT. ILL GET SOME MORE PICS FOR YOU SOON. DEFFINATLY
> SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER CAM. NEXT TIME!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Pavlovich [mailto:glpavlovich@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:40 PM
> To: Jason Rhoades
> Subject: Re: My 67 valiant
>
> Jason,
>
> I love the look and paint color of your Valiant!!! What a great-looking
> car! Man, that Poly under the hood looks like a Big-Block, only better!
>
> The engine sounds "healthy." We call that 256/.435" (208@.050") "Little Big
> Cam," because it runs soooo good for a small cam with very modest specs.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Rhoades
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:27 PM
> To: Joe Lemire ; Jeff Clawson ; Gary Pavolovich ; Marti Sacks
> Subject: My 67 valiant
>
> Check out this video on YouTube:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2RJRuOmUA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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