Re: Need a bit more Speed

Buy a bag of ice and put it a zip lock bags and put them on the intake. Take duct tape and go from air horn to base plate to straighten out the air. Anything you can do to straighten the air will pick you up. Get the oil to 200 degrees, five more horses.

I built a 340 for less than 2500 parts and machine work, in a 70 Swinger with a 323 gear that goes 12.88 @ 108 with factory manifolds and 14 inch tires.

Try intial timing at 15 with 34 total and in by 2000 .

From: jeff brown <jeff66@xxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Need a bit more Speed

Cheapest, easiest? small shot of gas....

On 29-Oct-11, at 3:50 PM, Donald Gallimore wrote:

> After my one journey to the strip this year, there is no improvement over last
> year and I'm still 0.20 seconds from cracking into the 11s with my near 3800#
> 1965 Belvedere. How do I pick up that two tenths or so without a spending a
> fortune. Keep it under $2,000 (or a lot less).
>
> My first thought is reduce weight. Scrape off the undercoating and take out the
> jack and spare. But I don't want to get carried away with weight reduction as I
> want the car to look "stock".
>
> I'm pondering a serious day at a chassis dyno with someone who knows carbs -
> that might cost me $500 or so.
>
> Other more expensive options is changing the pistons to get a quench motor with
> the existing open chamber 452 heads (is that even possible?). $300 for KB
> Hypertech step pistons. Plus rings, gaskets, etc.and a engine rebalance.
>
> Next step is to go to Performer RPM heads. I'm concerned about power loss as I
> already have a Stage 1 port job by Koffels on the 452. One restriction is I want
> to run pump gas - 93 octane. Bare heads in the $1,200 a pair range plus maybe a
> $100 to install the valves out of the 452 heads.
>
> I'm already running a near 550 lift Comp Cam and think that will not change.
>
> 60 foots are in the 1.73-1.74 and it looks a little sluggish off the line. (see
> "Don Gallimore at Pinks All Out" on YouTube) The rear's a 4.10. Maybe a 4.56
> with the existing 4100rpm flash stall converter might do the trick. The 9" tires
> are not stressed now so I think they can handle the additional torque
> multiplication. It's a Dana 60 so it's not a low cost changeover. Could fixed
> one of my 8 3/4 units - destroyed a good number of them in my 4 speed days - so
> I've got a lot of parts. That'll cut another 50# off, too. Can it take the load?
> That'll cost me less that $500.
>
>
> Anyone care to offer some suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
> Akron Don
>
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29-Oct-11, at 3:50 PM, Donald Gallimore wrote:

> After my one journey to the strip this year, there is no improvement over last
> year and I'm still 0.20 seconds from cracking into the 11s with my near 3800#
> 1965 Belvedere. How do I pick up that two tenths or so without a spending a
> fortune. Keep it under $2,000 (or a lot less).
>
> My first thought is reduce weight. Scrape off the undercoating and take out the
> jack and spare. But I don't want to get carried away with weight reduction as I
> want the car to look "stock".
>
> I'm pondering a serious day at a chassis dyno with someone who knows carbs -
> that might cost me $500 or so.
>
> Other more expensive options is changing the pistons to get a quench motor with
> the existing open chamber 452 heads (is that even possible?). $300 for KB
> Hypertech step pistons. Plus rings, gaskets, etc.and a engine rebalance.
>
> Next step is to go to Performer RPM heads. I'm concerned about power loss as I
> already have a Stage 1 port job by Koffels on the 452. One restriction is I want
> to run pump gas - 93 octane. Bare heads in the $1,200 a pair range plus maybe a
> $100 to install the valves out of the 452 heads.
>
> I'm already running a near 550 lift Comp Cam and think that will not change.
>
> 60 foots are in the 1.73-1.74 and it looks a little sluggish off the line. (see
> "Don Gallimore at Pinks All Out" on YouTube) The rear's a 4.10. Maybe a 4.56
> with the existing 4100rpm flash stall converter might do the trick. The 9" tires
> are not stressed now so I think they can handle the additional torque
> multiplication. It's a Dana 60 so it's not a low cost changeover. Could fixed
> one of my 8 3/4 units - destroyed a good number of them in my 4 speed days - so
> I've got a lot of parts. That'll cut another 50# off, too. Can it take the load?
> That'll cost me less that $500.
>
>
> Anyone care to offer some suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
> Akron Don
>
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