RE: Tool Sources

[Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with you. I work for Chrysler and it makes me sick seeing all this going on. But I just think about what they did at Pearl Harbor and then Mexico doesn't seem quite so bad. Lol Our mdia is as big a problem as the companies. If a U.S. company has a recall or problem its on the front page. If Toyota has one its in small print on the back of section Z. 

-----Original Message-----
From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Harrison
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:28 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Tool Sources

Yep.....Reads plain as day.....Made in Mexico.....That's the pisser.....The big three want us to buy US but they are making them out of country, thus American jobs are lost......So do we start buying Toyota Tundras and Honda Ridgelines?  Both are made in the USA and both are great trucks from all the reports I've read.....
GM is closing the truck and bus plant in Indianapolis but I have yet to hear where those jobs are going but I wouldn't bet against Mexico.
All three have their electrical made overseas and many, many parts are outsourced. I know the profits go overseas for Toyota's and Honda but they are made with American labor....
Brand loyalty is great and you will not find a more loyal Mopar man than me but Chrysler started the outsourcing first and none of the big three care about us the consumer.....The bottom line counts and if jobs going overseas means greater profits then it's fuck the American worker.....
My dad retired from Ford and my brother retired from Chrysler and one of my best friends retired from GM.
By shipping our jobs overseas, we are becoming a service oriented country with a lower wage rate and a lower standard of living.
Who will be able to afford a big three car in the future? As far as economy cars go, Hyundai and Kia blow the big three away when it comes to cost and quality.....
End of rant....My next buy.....A Challenger 392 hemi, 6 speed.....Fall of 2012.....
Later
Bill Harrison
65 Coronet 2 dr post...
P. S. I will install a Reese hitch and also install frame connectors to boost load pulling capacity.....Need a Mopar to pull a Mopar around you know.....

--- On Thu, 8/25/11, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Tool Sources
> To: "1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 7:03 AM
> Does it say that on the vehicle? Back
> then it could have been built in St. Louis or Saltillo. The
> half tons are in Warren Mich. Now with St. Louis closed all
> heavy dutys, 3/4 ton and up are Saltillo mexico
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of William Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:30 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Tool Sources
> 
> I am going to do more research but I think Craftsman tools
> are still made in America and will continue to buy them as
> their warranty can't be beat.
> What I have against China made tools is that for every
> China tool bought by us another American company loses
> money, thus having to cut back on American jobs.
> Purchasing American made tools costs just a few cents or
> dollars more but by buying them we keep another job in
> America.
> I have tools made in China but after reading an article in
> depth about job losses, I have quit buying them.
> It came as a shock to find that my 98 Dodge 2500 diesel was
> made in Mexico.
> Toyota and Honda build their vehicles in America because
> with all the tariffs it is cheaper to mfg in America but
> American companies do not have to pay tariffs so they can
> ship mfg and jobs out of America and not pay a penalty when
> the finished product enters America.
> NAFTA is the one thing I will never forgive Clinton for..
> End of rant.
> 
> Later
> Bill Harrison
> 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: Tool Sources
> > To: "1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:17 PM
> >     I learned abouy
> > craftsman as a boy from my dad. He was a die maker by
> trade.
> > He had a huge, about 4 foot long pipe wrench that was
> broke
> > at work. Snapped the head off it with a cheater bar
> and two
> > or three guys hanging on it to break loose a metal
> shear.
> > The salesman didn't bat an eye, just went in the back
> and
> > brought out a new one. Been buying them ever since
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Ray Henry
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:00 AM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Tool Sources
> > 
> > Years back, right out of school, when I started
> swinging
> > wrenches for a
> > living, I went to work at a dealership. I rolled in
> with
> > Craftsman tools.
> > The largest tool box they had at the time. I had two
> of
> > each of all the
> > basic tools. Wrenches, ratchets, sockets,
> screwdrivers,
> > etc. Everything
> > duplicated. The older mechanics had a good chuckle
> over my
> > "cheap" tools.
> > Interestingly enough, as time passed, they would come
> to me
> > to borrow stuff.
> > 
> > My theory was that when something broke, I could just
> use
> > the other one, and
> > replace it on the way home (I had to pass a Sears).
> So
> > while my tools DID
> > break more often than their Mac and Snap-On, they had
> to
> > wait for the truck
> > to stop by, often leaving them without that tool for a
> few
> > days. As time
> > passed, I did replace a number of my tools with more
> > expensive stuff.
> > Ultimately, I lent out more of my Craftsman tools than
> I
> > had to borrow
> > "professional" tools. My investment was, at the time,
> > probably under $4,000.
> > I made $35,000 that first year with those tools. That
> was
> > decent money in
> > the mid-80's.
> > 
> > After I decided that twisting wrenches for a living
> took
> > too much fun away
> > from doing it only on my own cars, I went out to make
> real
> > money in an
> > unrelated field. It was while I was away that I had
> my
> > garage broken into,
> > and all my tools stolen. I decide that since I was
> only
> > using them for my
> > own pleasure, I wasn't going to replace them with
> Craftsman
> > or better unless
> > I needed to. So I made a trip to Princess Auto here
> (our
> > local version of
> > something like Harbor Freight or Northern Hydraulics)
> and
> > bought everything
> > at next to nothing. My theory then was that when I
> broke
> > something, I would
> > hit Sears or Canadian Tire and replace the broken tool
> with
> > Craftsman or
> > Mastercraft. And that's exactly what I've done. 
> > 
> > I am now in possession of 3 toolboxes, more than I had
> when
> > I was using them
> > for a living. Those are the full cabinets, top &
> > bottoms. Go through them,
> > you will still see a lot of Power Fist (Princess Auto
> China
> > junk) scattered
> > throughout that still has yet to break after more than
> 15
> > years. I've been
> > slowly moving some of that cheap stuff to my "yard
> box", a
> > tool kit I take
> > to the wrecking yards when I am scavenging parts. Or
> lend
> > out to friends
> > that I have concerns may "forget" to return
> something.
> > Amazing how no-name
> > tools always get returned when brand name stuff
> doesn't.
> > 
> > Sure, the cheap stuff has an ungainly look &
> feel.
> > Sure, it's not as
> > comfortable to use. But, for the most part, it does
> the
> > same job. At least
> > when one is not using them day in and day out.
> > 
> > So I never laugh at anyone's choice of tools. You buy
> > what's in your budget,
> > or what makes economical sense. If you need it only
> once
> > every 5 years,
> > there's probably something that is made in China that
> will
> > do the job at a
> > tenth of the price of the professional tools. So I
> have
> > everything from
> > Power Fist to Snap-On. And yes, I still have 2 (or
> more) of
> > each socket,
> > wrench, screwdriver, etc.
> > 
> > Recently my wife was complaining about the number of
> tools
> > I owned. She
> > failed to comprehend why I needed "two of everything".
> So I
> > spent the time
> > to make her aware of every time I needed two 1/2 inch
> > wrenches at the same
> > time. Or two 7/8 inch sockets on 1/2 inch wrenches at
> the
> > same time. I would
> > even phone her from the wrecking yard whenever
> something
> > like that happened.
> > Or send her a text when she was at work and that
> happened.
> > 
> > She has decided to stop complaining about my tool
> > collection. In fact, when
> > she sees tools on sale, she brings the sale to my
> > attention, and asks if I'm
> > sure I already have two of them. Life doesn't get
> much
> > better.....  :)
> > 
> > 
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