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I've seen Chinese made tools such as Pittsburg, etc. (they like using American names), used by contractors in the petro-chemical industry.
In every case, I've witnessed new, used  for the first time, broken tools.
Tools like a 24" pipe wrench with handles snapped off, 3/4" drive sockets in a set , where five out of ten sockets were broken on half.
That kind of failure will cripple anyone using them.
The tools are cheap, and they should be.They're not usable.
The point of buying American is very good advice.
Where do you think those 14 million jobs have gone.
It's not worth the price when you are working on your 62 to 65 Mopar, and a wrench breaks and ruins your paint job.( The required 62 to 65 Mopar content.:-) )


Jimmy

On 8/24/2011 5:29 PM, William Harrison wrote:
I am going to do more research but I think Craftsman tools are still made in America and will continue to buy them as their warranty can't be beat.
What I have against China made tools is that for every China tool bought by us another American company loses money, thus having to cut back on American jobs.
Purchasing American made tools costs just a few cents or dollars more but by buying them we keep another job in America.
I have tools made in China but after reading an article in depth about job losses, I have quit buying them.
It came as a shock to find that my 98 Dodge 2500 diesel was made in Mexico.
Toyota and Honda build their vehicles in America because with all the tariffs it is cheaper to mfg in America but American companies do not have to pay tariffs so they can ship mfg and jobs out of America and not pay a penalty when the finished product enters America.
NAFTA is the one thing I will never forgive Clinton for..
End of rant.

Later
Bill Harrison
65 Coronet 2 dr post

--- On Wed, 8/24/11, Bill Paxton<wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

From: Bill Paxton<wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Tool Sources
To: "1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"<1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:17 PM
     I learned abouy
craftsman as a boy from my dad. He was a die maker by trade.
He had a huge, about 4 foot long pipe wrench that was broke
at work. Snapped the head off it with a cheater bar and two
or three guys hanging on it to break loose a metal shear.
The salesman didn't bat an eye, just went in the back and
brought out a new one. Been buying them ever since

-----Original Message-----
From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ray Henry
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:00 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Tool Sources

Years back, right out of school, when I started swinging
wrenches for a
living, I went to work at a dealership. I rolled in with
Craftsman tools.
The largest tool box they had at the time. I had two of
each of all the
basic tools. Wrenches, ratchets, sockets, screwdrivers,
etc. Everything
duplicated. The older mechanics had a good chuckle over my
"cheap" tools.
Interestingly enough, as time passed, they would come to me
to borrow stuff.

My theory was that when something broke, I could just use
the other one, and
replace it on the way home (I had to pass a Sears). So
while my tools DID
break more often than their Mac and Snap-On, they had to
wait for the truck
to stop by, often leaving them without that tool for a few
days. As time
passed, I did replace a number of my tools with more
expensive stuff.
Ultimately, I lent out more of my Craftsman tools than I
had to borrow
"professional" tools. My investment was, at the time,
probably under $4,000.
I made $35,000 that first year with those tools. That was
decent money in
the mid-80's.

After I decided that twisting wrenches for a living took
too much fun away
from doing it only on my own cars, I went out to make real
money in an
unrelated field. It was while I was away that I had my
garage broken into,
and all my tools stolen. I decide that since I was only
using them for my
own pleasure, I wasn't going to replace them with Craftsman
or better unless
I needed to. So I made a trip to Princess Auto here (our
local version of
something like Harbor Freight or Northern Hydraulics) and
bought everything
at next to nothing. My theory then was that when I broke
something, I would
hit Sears or Canadian Tire and replace the broken tool with
Craftsman or
Mastercraft. And that's exactly what I've done.

I am now in possession of 3 toolboxes, more than I had when
I was using them
for a living. Those are the full cabinets, top&
bottoms. Go through them,
you will still see a lot of Power Fist (Princess Auto China
junk) scattered
throughout that still has yet to break after more than 15
years. I've been
slowly moving some of that cheap stuff to my "yard box", a
tool kit I take
to the wrecking yards when I am scavenging parts. Or lend
out to friends
that I have concerns may "forget" to return something.
Amazing how no-name
tools always get returned when brand name stuff doesn't.

Sure, the cheap stuff has an ungainly look&  feel.
Sure, it's not as
comfortable to use. But, for the most part, it does the
same job. At least
when one is not using them day in and day out.

So I never laugh at anyone's choice of tools. You buy
what's in your budget,
or what makes economical sense. If you need it only once
every 5 years,
there's probably something that is made in China that will
do the job at a
tenth of the price of the professional tools. So I have
everything from
Power Fist to Snap-On. And yes, I still have 2 (or more) of
each socket,
wrench, screwdriver, etc.

Recently my wife was complaining about the number of tools
I owned. She
failed to comprehend why I needed "two of everything". So I
spent the time
to make her aware of every time I needed two 1/2 inch
wrenches at the same
time. Or two 7/8 inch sockets on 1/2 inch wrenches at the
same time. I would
even phone her from the wrecking yard whenever something
like that happened.
Or send her a text when she was at work and that happened.

She has decided to stop complaining about my tool
collection. In fact, when
she sees tools on sale, she brings the sale to my
attention, and asks if I'm
sure I already have two of them. Life doesn't get much
better.....  :)



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