In every case, I've witnessed new, used for the first time, broken tools.Tools like a 24" pipe wrench with handles snapped off, 3/4" drive sockets in a set , where five out of ten sockets were broken on half.
That kind of failure will cripple anyone using them. The tools are cheap, and they should be.They're not usable. The point of buying American is very good advice. Where do you think those 14 million jobs have gone.It's not worth the price when you are working on your 62 to 65 Mopar, and a wrench breaks and ruins your paint job.( The required 62 to 65 Mopar content.:-) )
Jimmy On 8/24/2011 5:29 PM, William Harrison wrote:
I am going to do more research but I think Craftsman tools are still made in America and will continue to buy them as their warranty can't be beat. What I have against China made tools is that for every China tool bought by us another American company loses money, thus having to cut back on American jobs. Purchasing American made tools costs just a few cents or dollars more but by buying them we keep another job in America. I have tools made in China but after reading an article in depth about job losses, I have quit buying them. It came as a shock to find that my 98 Dodge 2500 diesel was made in Mexico. Toyota and Honda build their vehicles in America because with all the tariffs it is cheaper to mfg in America but American companies do not have to pay tariffs so they can ship mfg and jobs out of America and not pay a penalty when the finished product enters America. NAFTA is the one thing I will never forgive Clinton for.. End of rant. Later Bill Harrison 65 Coronet 2 dr post --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Bill Paxton<wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Bill Paxton<wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Tool Sources To: "1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"<1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:17 PM I learned abouy craftsman as a boy from my dad. He was a die maker by trade. He had a huge, about 4 foot long pipe wrench that was broke at work. Snapped the head off it with a cheater bar and two or three guys hanging on it to break loose a metal shear. The salesman didn't bat an eye, just went in the back and brought out a new one. Been buying them ever since -----Original Message----- From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Henry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:00 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Tool Sources Years back, right out of school, when I started swinging wrenches for a living, I went to work at a dealership. I rolled in with Craftsman tools. The largest tool box they had at the time. I had two of each of all the basic tools. Wrenches, ratchets, sockets, screwdrivers, etc. Everything duplicated. The older mechanics had a good chuckle over my "cheap" tools. Interestingly enough, as time passed, they would come to me to borrow stuff. My theory was that when something broke, I could just use the other one, and replace it on the way home (I had to pass a Sears). So while my tools DID break more often than their Mac and Snap-On, they had to wait for the truck to stop by, often leaving them without that tool for a few days. As time passed, I did replace a number of my tools with more expensive stuff. Ultimately, I lent out more of my Craftsman tools than I had to borrow "professional" tools. My investment was, at the time, probably under $4,000. I made $35,000 that first year with those tools. That was decent money in the mid-80's. After I decided that twisting wrenches for a living took too much fun away from doing it only on my own cars, I went out to make real money in an unrelated field. It was while I was away that I had my garage broken into, and all my tools stolen. I decide that since I was only using them for my own pleasure, I wasn't going to replace them with Craftsman or better unless I needed to. So I made a trip to Princess Auto here (our local version of something like Harbor Freight or Northern Hydraulics) and bought everything at next to nothing. My theory then was that when I broke something, I would hit Sears or Canadian Tire and replace the broken tool with Craftsman or Mastercraft. And that's exactly what I've done. I am now in possession of 3 toolboxes, more than I had when I was using them for a living. Those are the full cabinets, top& bottoms. Go through them, you will still see a lot of Power Fist (Princess Auto China junk) scattered throughout that still has yet to break after more than 15 years. I've been slowly moving some of that cheap stuff to my "yard box", a tool kit I take to the wrecking yards when I am scavenging parts. Or lend out to friends that I have concerns may "forget" to return something. Amazing how no-name tools always get returned when brand name stuff doesn't. Sure, the cheap stuff has an ungainly look& feel. Sure, it's not as comfortable to use. But, for the most part, it does the same job. At least when one is not using them day in and day out. So I never laugh at anyone's choice of tools. You buy what's in your budget, or what makes economical sense. If you need it only once every 5 years, there's probably something that is made in China that will do the job at a tenth of the price of the professional tools. So I have everything from Power Fist to Snap-On. And yes, I still have 2 (or more) of each socket, wrench, screwdriver, etc. Recently my wife was complaining about the number of tools I owned. She failed to comprehend why I needed "two of everything". So I spent the time to make her aware of every time I needed two 1/2 inch wrenches at the same time. Or two 7/8 inch sockets on 1/2 inch wrenches at the same time. I would even phone her from the wrecking yard whenever something like that happened. Or send her a text when she was at work and that happened. She has decided to stop complaining about my tool collection. In fact, when she sees tools on sale, she brings the sale to my attention, and asks if I'm sure I already have two of them. Life doesn't get much better..... :) -- -- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. That is, send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. 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