Re: I wanna go faster
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Re: I wanna go faster
- From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:36:18 -0800
Donnie,
You can't beat killer horsepower AND mileage!
Gary P.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donnie Schanz Jr" <dcs426@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: I wanna go faster
Funny you say the cubic inches comment. I am a Big Block guy by heart, but
I just got my hands on a 274ci Stage 2, V6 Buick that is going to make 900
flywheel horsepower( with a 70 mm turbo) and not even be stressed out
doing it. This will push my Grand National into the 9 sec range and be
street driven almost daily. 20mpg, and air conditioning to boot. My
biggest HP big block is my 09, and at 10% overdriven, it makes 817 on a
dyno. Its 138 ci bigger and 2 more cylinders. That damn little Buick
engine is an absolute marvel of engineering. The same 274 inch block and
head combo makes 1400 hp with an 88mm turbo in my friends car. 3700lbs,
factory suspension points, and 275-60-15 drag radials...7.90 @ 177.
Donnie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Pavlovich" <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: I wanna go faster
Agreed.
It is a no-brainer to use cubic inches if one desires to go-fast but that
has been doen for ages with the basic "big-block."
I think for many of us, as Donnie has alluded, we like the challenge and
journey of taking the "road less travelled" and make HP out of an
uncommon, unusual, or odd-ball powerplant.
Building the first 402" Poly Stroker excited many back in 2001 as it
unleased the imagination and potential of a discarded and disdained Mopar
powerplant.
Ever since I was a 16yr. old kid, I had pleasure in embarrassing the "Big
Boys" and their high HP toys with a good-showing out of my '56 Ply 277
Poly...and so the quest continues.
It is fun to see a four-door, ugly car, or demure vintage hulk blow by a
tricked-out and nicely detailed Muscle Car. I always enjoyed the
"under-dog" title as you didn't really have to win the race, just make
the other guy feel he needed to spend even more money to stay ahead of
you (though his engine expenditure may be 4-5 times greater than what you
spent to be only a car and a half behind him).
Check out the latest issue of Hot Rod (April 2011) with the old DeSoto as
the cover car...something like that is my personal kick in the pants.
What a glory to trounce the "favorite" at the track or shame the cocky
Bow-Tie supremist with a challenge.
Gary Pavlovich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donnie Schanz Jr" <dcs426@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: I wanna go faster
Ive made alot of things go fast in my day, but looking back, I wasted
alot of $$$ doing it. Going fast isnt cheap no matter what you are
building. You really have to weigh out your options and decide what will
cost you the least in the long run and what will give you the best bang
for your buck. When it comes to the 318 poly, depending on what your
budget is, it might be better to pull it and let it sit, or sell it to
start what will get you your goal. Now if you just wanna be the guy who
makes a 318 run its best...have at it. I did it with a 409, and was the
fist to put a 6-71 on an 09 with the big port heads. I make the blower
intake from scratch and welded it. It took 80-100 hours of testing the
fit and flowing it on a bench to get it right. Cost...Im not even going
to say, but I could have made 400-500 more horsepower for the same $$$
out of a big 540 or 600c.i. Merlin block. I didnt want that.
Now if you just wanna run a certain time, scrap the 318 and get the 440
or do the 500 incher using the 400 crank. A light port job and bowl work
on a set of 906's and a nice cam and you got 500 hp and tons of torque
pretty easy. Machine work and parts, your probably at 4500-5000, and
thats a very nice engine. If you can find some nice used parts and do
some stuff yourself, it'll be cheaper. Racing junk always has good deals
as most of us swap out parts all the time to step up to something bigger
or better. I have sold 3 turbos on there the last 3 years for 2/3 to
half of what they run new and each had less then 2000 miles on them.
Pick what you want to do and then set a plan. Each time I just started
without a plan, it just compounded and got out of hand. Doing this, lead
to having to do that and doing that lead to have to do something else,
and the ball just keeps rollin'. Next thing you know...your broke and
only halfway or half-assed to where you were trying to get.
Have fun doing it either way, that is what this is all about.
Donnie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary H." <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: I wanna go faster
I wish ol' Earl Helm was still on this mail list, as he'd elbow
you in the ribs and say "put in a 440" with a friendly chuckle.
But the 440 route is the easy way, right Rich? :)
Thanks,
Gary H.
In a message dated 3/9/2011 10:13:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
rlkinsley writes:
Well I guess I'm gonna commit to some more go fast goodies from Gary
P.
I'm gonna get some trick poly heads that can produce 425hp and 450tq
with the rest of the right components. I'm also doing a nasty cam to
help out the combo. It'll be April 17th before LeRoar gets home but
then
I'll have to get into 'race mode' and get the new goodies going. It
should be fun. I'll recruit my local 62-65 guys to help out if
possible.
We do have a good group here in the Omaha area. About 6 of us.
Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-kinsley64polara.html
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