RE: I need to raise the front end of a Dodge 330

[Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>]

The tire height does make a difference in stance and gear ratio. I am 
using different tire sizes just to increase my rear ratio more. I have 
27" ties for the street and 24" tires for the track. It does make a BIG 
difference. My 3:91 rear is the same as a 4:40 rear would be with my 
street tires. I can go through the traps in 3d gear now in the 1/8th. 
Also there is a difference in weight. My 27" tires weigh 58lbs mounted 
and my 24" tires weigh 39.5lbs. That makes a difference too in unsprung 
weight!

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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Herb wrote:
> 
> 
> That's what I thought!  It just looked like that was the set-up, and I 
> bet
> you have 90/10 shocks also!  The 6 cylinder T bars will set low but will
> give you that fast lift under acceleration forcing the rear tires to 
> carry
> the weight of the car for traction, and not the front like you get with
> heaver T bars that slow you down.  I bet you will need to crank them all 
> the
> way up to get close to the height your looking for.  That will adversely
> effect the operation of your suspension in the 1/4 mile.  If your using 
> it
> as a driver and not a racer you may be better off changing your torsion 
> bars
> to V8 bars.  Also with 430 gears the tall tires (Look like 30in or 
> larger)
> are defeating the gears.  Again if it is a driver I would go with more
> streetable gears and shorter tires.  27 inch is a good starting point to
> have a good stance.  I have a 63 Fury with the same suspension setup and 
> it
> sits nose down but works very well transferring the weight to the rear
> wheels for traction.  When I jump on it the whole car comes up and 
> level.  I
> am running 456s with a 28 inch tall slick.  Just my $0.02 worth!  (-;
>  
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>  Herb 
>  
> 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly
> 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six
> 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L
> 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L
> 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L
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> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: Byron Crump
> Date: 7/25/2010 10:29:40 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: I need to raise the front end of a Dodge 330
>  
>  
> I did not build the car and all I have is specs that were given to me, 
> for
> example:
>  
> 1965 8 3/4 rear end with sure grip
>  
> 489 case with 430 gears
>  
> Super Stock rear suspension
>  
> Frame connectors
>  
> Drive shaft loop
>  
> 6 cylinder torsion bars
>  
>  
>  
> On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Herb wrote:
>  
> >
> >
> > Before you go and start cranking the front end up, did you build the car
> or
> > buy it that way?  What type of torsion bars do you have?  Do you have
> 90/10
> > shocks or stock?  When you jump on it will it stand up level and go or
> stay
> > nose down?  Do you have Super Stock springs on the back?  Also you have 
> > a
> > very tall set of slicks back there exacerbating the nose down stance.  
> > The
> > reason I ask, is if the suspension is set up that way you may slow
> yourself
> > down adjusting it.  With 6 cylinder T bars, 90/10 shocks & SS Springs 
> > your
> > car will set nose down at a stop but when you accelerate the front end
> will
> > come up fast and hold there giving you excellent weight transfer! 
> Remember
> > what looks good does not mean it will go faster.
> >
> >
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> >              
> > Herb
> >
> > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly
> > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six
> > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L
> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L
> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L
> > St. Louis, MO.
> >
> > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
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> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Byron Crump
> > Date: 7/25/2010 9:01:13 PM
> > To: Mopar List
> > Subject: I need to raise the front end of a Dodge 330
> >
> > I put slicks on the rear of my Dodge and it looks too high in the rear.
> >
> > I started looking at other cars with slicks and I noticed my front end 
> > is
> a
> > lot lower than most "Super Stocks" and clones of them.
> >
> > I think the guy that built the car has the torsion bars cranked way down
> > because the car is very low.
> >
> > I have not researched it yet on how to raise the front.
> >
> > Any tips or tricks and do you guys think that will cure my stance?
> >
> > Byron
> >
> > Picture of it with slicks are here:
> >
> > http://kingvoodoo.blogspot.com/2010/07/hurst-cheater-slicks.html
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Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies


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