Crane was taken over by S & S and they are making cams for motorcycles right now but the scuttlebutt is that they will start making cams for cars soon. Later Bill Harrison 65 Coronet 2 dr post --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: Paddock is done? > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 12:24 PM > > Thanks for the kind comments. And I loved Butch's > point - sometimes it's > just lousy timing. Murphy has a designated parking > spot here. > > I don't want to belabor the point, but there is a natural > cycle to these > small businesses as well. There are names like > Fellwocks and Norm Brady who > were around since long before I started, but as time goes > on and priorities > change new businesses start and older ones seem to get > pushed to the > shadows. 20 years ago local shops attended local and > regional shows (like > the Paddock in Bill's neighborhood) and prospered. > The internet has changed > all that - someone with a slick website can take orders > from old established > businesses without breaking a sweat. > > The sad part is that there is first hand knowledge that a > lot of these guys > have that is lost once they've moved on. That's why > we're seeing '63 Street > Wedge cars and original '65 Coronets with hideaway > headlights - after all, > if you heard it on Barrett-Jackson, it must be true, > right? > > We're really lucky in this niche ('62-'65 Mopars) because > there are so many > really knowledgable people who take part - Jim Kramer, Joe > Suchy, Wayne > Brewer, Rick Allison, Norm Brady, Larry Pontnack, Bob > Mazzolini, I could go > on. There are probably 10 I've missed for each name > I've given. In > addition, the members on this list are a veritable treasure > trove of > accurate information. You don't find this kind of > camaraderie among other > brands, or even other Mopar groups. > > Anyway, to those we've lost the last year or two - Paddock, > the Cranes, and > others, I thank them for what they brought to the party and > wish them well > in whatever their futures may hold. When things pick > up I wouldn't be > surprised to see some familiar faces among us again. > > SC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Butch Edison [mailto:waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:18 AM > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Paddock is done? > > > > > > I too am in business and will second Steve's comments. My > income is down > with no prosects for improvement, so have really dialed > back on spending, > especially on my cars. When I don't spend, vendors who rely > on what is > totally discretionary spending, suffer first and most. I'm > very concerned > about the shrinking pool of Mopar vendors. We tend to piss > and moan about > poor service and parts, but one of the alternatives is no > parts. It's not > always the worst vendors that fail. Business failures can > be caused by many > factors and Darwinism is not as frequent a cause of failure > as Murphy's law. > > > > > /Butch/Ferndale, WA > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:10:06 AM GMT -08:00 > US/Canada Pacific > Subject: RE: Paddock is done? > > > Being in the industry I can tell you that everybody is > hurting - sales have > plummeted since 2007 and many companies were way, way out > on the financial > limb. It takes a lot of cash to develop new products and > many in the > industry were/are leveraged to the hilt. > > It's understandable as things are tight all over - when the > average Johnny > Lunchbucket finishes paying the bills, there's not much > left over for car > parts. It's the same if you own an old-car-related > business, sales are off > 40-60% and after you pay the bills there's not much left > for new product > development, new equipment, advertising, etc. We've > dropped all of our > magazine advertising over the last two years just to cut > cost and pinch > every penny to make sure we survive the next 2-3 years. > > > Owning a business doesn't mean you're rich. Some have > other business > interests that pay the bills, have a fully funded > retirement, a spouse with > a good job with benefits, or are independently wealthy. > Many, including > myself, have invested everything they have to keep the > doors open, and > sometimes it's just not enough. You'll be seeing less > vendors each year at > shows like the Classic Events or Mopar Nationals because of > this and the > effect the internet has had on show trade. It's not that > the vendors don't > want to be there, or that they are "blowing off" the > customers, it's simple > economics. If it costs $10K to go to a show and you don't > bring home a > profit, it's hard to justify the outlay as an advertising > expense. > > Try to bear this in mind when you call a vendor and get > automated response > or are directed to the internet - having somebody sit at > the phone at a good > hourly rate plus 20% or so burden comes right off the > bottom line. Quite > often we are all making parts and just can't get to the > phone when it rings. > > > Just wanted to share the view from the other side - making > Mopar parts isn't > like making Chevy parts - we have a very limited niche > market with > comparitively low volumes, so parts do cost more. Most of > us do it because > we love the cars and the people. This isn't an industry > where you would > invest money to make big returns. > > Rant mode off. > > SC > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Bailey [mailto:bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:32 AM > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx; > mml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Paddock is done? > > > > > Hello Bill, I read the same thing in MCG. Yes, the Paddock > is closed. As I > understand from MCG, the Paddock stopped their advertising > in MCG a while > back like some other advertisers also did, 'presumably', > because of the bad > eco crunch. MCG said, there was no indication at the time > of any other > problem. Later, MCG had an appointment arranged with them > (probably to > discuss / encourage continuing to advertise in their mag) > but he / they > never showed for the appointment. I've heard this same > scenario from others, > like yourself, that tried to make contact / purchases with > them but to no > avail or explanation. Other than (understandably), a very > sudden or > catastrophic life event issue, this seems to be a very > unprofessional way to > close the door. > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx; > mml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > From: Y1TopBanana73@xxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Paddock is done? > > Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:25:28 -0400 > > > > > > I read something in Mopar Action or MCG that the > Paddock has closed it's > doors? > > > > Anything past the main page of their website yields > this... > > > > " > > Thank you for visiting the Paddock > > We are temporarily unable to take calls or orders at > this time. > > We apologize for the inconvenience." > > > > Anyone know what happened? I thought they were pretty > big?!?!?! > > > > -- > > Bill M > > 65 Coronet 500 'vert http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo62008.html > > 73 Dart Sport, 00 Cherokee Sport, 01 Dakota SLT > > 21 Model T Depot Hack, 92 Accord, 06 Mazda 3 > > > > > > ---- > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to > only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions > and negotiations > as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar > topic. Thanks! > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. 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I.e., send parts/car > transactions and negotiations > as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar > topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car > transactions and negotiations > as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar > topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- directly to that person. I.e., send > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the > Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > >