RE: Lifts - was RE: Heater hindsight

From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:50:34 -0500

I'm envious, and hopefully will be able to enjoy my shop soon. The cars don't seem to be putting themselves together. Sounds like your contractor was a stand-up guy. The previous building owners had a hoist in the part of the building that we are using for a machine shop. Curiously, they put a 4" cap over the 3" floor, but boxed around the hoist area with the hoist mounted on the 3" base. We're still in EPA limbo waiting to hear if I have to remove the tanks under the part of the floor where the shop is going - if we do, the 6" floor is a no brainer. I'm to the point right now that I don't care what they decide, as long as they decide SOMETHING pretty soon! I've been dreaming/drooling over this for years - I like Gary's scissor lift, Bill's assessment of the 4-post, and agree the two post would allow the most access under the car. What a time to vapor-lock! SC -----Original Message----- From: Butch Edison [mailto:waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:20 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Lifts - was RE: Heater hindsight The Mohawk two-post gave me the safety assurance I want for me and my grandkids. I'm sure others are fine with whatever they use, just personal preference for me. They are at the upper end cost-wise (applies to grandkids and Mohawk lifts). You are correct to be concerned about the floor for a two post lift. I've seen web-shots of two post lifts that have pulled the anchor studs. The photos show that they were obviously not installed correctly. Even if I'd installed my own lift, it would have been a better job than the 'fails' I saw online. Mohawk's techs did a first-rate install by anyone's standards. When I had my garag-mahal built, I told my contractor to put in a 6" floor. When Mohawk showed up to put in the lift, they found only 4" and would not install the lift. We did not have the floor depth in writing, but my contractor took ownership of the error, so to satisfy Mohawk, had a lot of extra work in front of him. He had to cut out a 6' by 14' slab of the 4" concrete. Then he had to hand dig the hole to a depth of 18" deep and 16" around the perimeter of the existing slab. Then he had to put a rebar web that extended 18" under the existing slab, then finally filled the void with concrete. He had to do all this because once he cut the existing slab, the integrity offered by the complete slab was gone. He was in fact putting in a concrete block that by itself had to support the hoist safely. Of course, that meant another month making sure the concrete was cured, trying to match the epoxy floor he'd already poured (close but no prize on that one), then he had to eat a second trip by Mohawk to install the lift. That's all history now and I don't think of it. Rather, I adjust the heat in the garage, turn on my tunes, and do what I want to in a great frame of mind. /Butch/Ferndale, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:48:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: Lifts - was RE: Heater hindsight Butch, Excellent info, thanks. The Mohawk is a little pricier than what I've seen locally (Detroit) but appears to be head and shoulders above the others in terms of design and features. I'm a little concerned about a two post due to the floor being an unknown (we recently did core samples and the floor in that area is as thin as 3"). I do also like the idea of the 4-post because they have a wheel option that allows them to be moved around (empty). I can only imagine how much more I can get done if I don't have to lay on my back. Thanks again, SC -----Original Message----- From: Butch Edison [mailto:waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:38 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Lifts - was RE: Heater hindsight I have a two post Mohawk 7K lift I use almost exclusively for working on my cars and a Backyard buddy lift I use mostly for car storage. I really like both of them. If I had to choose one, I'd use the BY Buddy. It's fine for most maintenance items, storage, tranny work/removal, exhaust work, and you can get options that allow for getting the tires up off the decks if needed, for projects like suspension upgrades. With the two post lift, you have better access to everything from underneath, but the suspension/tires always hang. Sometimes you don't want that. That said, I use both for different things. They are life savers in terms of how many hours I can work on a car and my mental/physical well being. For me, I want to look forward to getting at my car, not wondering how soon I'll be too tired to do anything. /Butch/Ferndale, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:19:24 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Lifts - was RE: Heater hindsight Here's a question for the group - now that I have space, I'm thinking hoist. How many list members are using 2 post vs 4 post? Pros and cons? SC -----Original Message----- From: Bill [mailto:Y1TopBanana73@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:12 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Heater hindsight Ollie, GO GET A LIFT!! I just put one in and it was the best $ I've spent in the garage. It makes EVERYTHING so much easier!!! -- Bill M 65 Coronet 500 'vert http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo62008.html http://www.marylandmopars.net/membersrides/Bill-MelissaCoronet/Bill-MelissaC oronet.htm 73 Dart Sport, 00 Cherokee Sport, 01 Dakota SLT 21 Model T Depot Hack, 92 Accord, 06 Mazda 3 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Steven, > Part of the joys of getting "older and wiser" > I am beginning to wonder if I have another vehicle in me without first > investing in a lift. > 10 minutes to get down on the creeper, 15 more to get under the car, > 30 minutes to get out from under the car, off the creeper and over to > the tool box to get the wrench I forgot. > Still having fun! > Ollie > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. 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