RE: gas tank rebuild story

[Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>]

I was on the Volunteer Fire Dept in Harrison, NE back in the mid-90's. 
Some school kids ran a Blazer in a ditch and in the process of trying to 
get it out they caught it on fire. The whole thing almost melted. The 
gas cap did melt. The tank was full of gas and was still intact 
afterwards. It didn't blow. Amazing!

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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Douglas J wrote:
> 
> 
> I guess I can believe the cig butt in the full gas tank.  Liquid Gas 
> burns, vapor explodes.
> Long as we are telling stories.  Going back to when I had the tank wagon 
> business, my first truck had an OLD Brownie tank on it, which had to be 
> repaired on a regular basis.  I took it to a place in Sioux Falls SD to 
> get it repaired.  They would open the compartment top (it had 5), open 
> the valve in the back and spray around in it with a garden hose for a 
> few minutes.  then close the valve,, find the leak, and with the lid 
> open (about 10 inches diameter) strike the arc and patch it up.  Oh, 
> they would "rinse" out the the other compartments too.  After I saw it 
> once, I started dropping off the truck and comming back later to get 
> it.  One day, I came back for it, and there was a semi tanker sitting 
> there and some guy was welding on it.  I went in to pay for repairs, and 
> mentioned to the guy that even the big ones get leaks.  Yeah, he says, 
> "that came in here leakin like a b@stard.  But they weld nice when 
> they're full".   Me an that old Dodge wasted no time gettin outa there.  
> We also had a welding shop across from our gas station, and he used to 
> weld up gas tanks all the time.  IIRC, he filled them with water and 
> brazed them shut.  
> Wouldn't be for me.  Guess I'm a coward!!
> 
> Jake
> '63 Sport Fury 'vert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > From: stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: gas tank rebuild story
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:39:07 -0500
> > 
> > 
> > They taught us how to repair tanks in school but with all the horror 
> > stories
> > they told while demonstrating the process I've never even tried it.  The
> > instructor had a large soldering "iron" which was in fact about 1 1/4"
> > square with a conical tip on one end, a shaft and wooden handle on the
> > other.  He would heat the iron with a torch some distance from the tank,
> > then use the hot iron to apply flux, then solder to the tank.  Of course 
> > the
> > area to be repaired had been cleaned and prepped.
> > 
> > My ex brother-in-law (admittedly not the brightest light on the string) 
> > was
> > attempting a repair on his '66 Satellite, and decided to use epoxy in 
> > lieu
> > of any kind of heat in the name of safety.  In order to plug the hole, 
> > he
> > decided to thread a screw into the hole in the tank, then epoxy over the
> > top.  The screw wouldn't quite go in, so he grabbed his trusty drill, 
> > and...
> > 
> > The car and the garage were a total loss, along with siding on adjoining
> > houses.  He escaped with minor burns but his buddy was scarred. 
> > 
> > On the other end of the spectrum, I once worked for a guy who worked in 
> > the
> > motor pool when he was in the Army.  As he told the story, they were not
> > supposed to smoke in the garage, and kept all the jeep gas tanks filled 
> > to
> > the top of the neck.  If an officer came into the garage, he said they 
> > would
> > ditch their butts into the tank and replace the cap.  I never quite 
> > bought
> > the story but he swore by it...
> > 
> > Bottom line, use extreme caution whenever working with a gas tank.
> > 
> > SC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary [mailto:mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:52 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Tom Watters
> > Subject: Re: gas tank rebuild story
> > 
> > 
> > The idea of using exhaust is the safest and best way to weld a gas tank.
> > Just be sure to let the exhaust run a few minutes before welding.  I use 
> > a
> > brass rod. Gas weld.
> > ---- Tom Watters <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Soldering Gun or Iron.  Pretty good idea.  No Spark, can control fire.  
> >> I'll have to remember that. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >>> For what it is worth I have welded on gas tanks before, have found 
> >>> that it can be done with the right precautions,,,,,,,what has worked 
> >>> for me in the past  was the water rinse, and then to put a hose on 
> >>> exhaust of a running vehicle and  pump it into the tank, I said 
> >>> weld, but was really brazing with brasse rod, have  also known of 
> >>> friends that use a soldering iron and soldered the holes shut, but  
> >>> that is not my method of choice,,,,,,,,
> >>>  
> >>>  
> >>> In a message dated 1/26/2010 7:48:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> >>> spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A  while ago we had a long discussion here about repairing gas 
> >>> tanks, which we  concluded *can* be done--if done correctly. If not 
> >>> done right....I'm forwarding the below story from the current Rock Auto
> > Newsletter.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Gary H.
> >>>
> >>> ============
> >>>
> >>> "A friend of  mine visited a car wash after we had just upgraded the 
> >>> exhaust system on his  1991 Dodge Spirit R/T. The exhaust caught on 
> >>> the wheel positioning guides for  the automated carwash, pushing an 
> >>> exhaust clamp into the gas tank and  puncturing it. In a matter of a 
> >>> few miles he went from a full tank to barely  making it up his driveway
> > before running out of gas.
> >>>
> >>> "My friend had  just purchased a MIG welding setup, so we decided to 
> >>> fix the hole by welding  it shut. We removed the gas tank, filled it 
> >>> with water as much as possible  using a garden hose, and rinsed it 
> >>> carefully. We couldn't fill it completely  with water due to the 
> >>> positioning of the fuel filler neck, but figuring we  were safe, we 
> >>> settled down on his front lawn to weld the hole shut.
> >>>
> >>> "As  soon as he pulled the trigger on the welding torch there was a 
> >>> sound reminiscent of a fighter jet blasting overhead just over the 
> >>> treetops. I had  been standing, but when the noise stopped, I was 
> >>> laying on my back and couldn't recall how I'd gotten there. My 
> >>> friend was also flat on his back, welding torch still in hand, 
> >>> looking stunned. His neighbors came outside and were all looking around
> > wondering where the thunderous noise had come  from.
> >>>
> >>> "Apparently the small space in the tank that was not full of  water 
> >>> had sufficient fumes in it to ignite causing the explosion. The 16  
> >>> gallon gas tank had emptied itself completely of water in a fraction 
> >>> of a  second, leaving only steam wafting out the filler neck hole. 
> >>> It had also  doubled in size, expanding like a balloon, but 
> >>> fortunately hadn't blown to  pieces. We avoided any injury beyond the
> > ringing in our ears and wounded  pride.
> >>>
> >>> "Needless to say he bought a new gas tank and we never attempted  to 
> >>> weld a gas tank again.
> >>>
> >>> "Matt in  Washington"
> >>>
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