herb has it right on the nail ,,,but with out a doubt drain converter and change the filter and new fluid then your good to go ,do not over do the rtv --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: replacing gaskets: engine oil pan and Torquflite > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 2:52 PM > > > Get a second gasket for the top. Also it is a good > idea to put a thin coat > of RTV on both sides of both gaskets and torque them > down. People get > carried away with beads of RTV that squeeze into the engine > and clog up the > oil pickup. > > 1. The fluid is actually up into the tube, and it is > correct. > > 2. The cork/rubber is a big improvement and I would > use the same technic > with RTV as the engine oil pan. > > 3. Their is about eight more quarts in the converter > if you want to drain > it. If your fluid is burnt I would recommend changing > it also. If not just > what is in the pan is OK but would recommend cleaning the > screen or > replacing the filter what ever your application is. > If you have not drained > the converter starting the engine & adding fluid is no > problem. Just > remember check the fluid in newtral, not park. The > precaution of > overfilling initially is when starting with a empty > converter and putting > more than five or six quarts and then starting the > engine. You will not > have any problems with draining just the pan! > > Hope this helps. > > Let us know how the disc conversion worked out also!! > > > Herb > > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1 > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 > 1970 Challenger RT 440 - 4 Sale > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9 > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1 > St. Louis, MO. > > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Butch Edison > Date: 1/3/2010 1:04:29 PM > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: replacing gaskets: engine oil pan and Torquflite > > Welcome to the new year everyone. My son and I spent a good > deal of the > holidays rebuilding the front end of one of my 64 Sport > Furys and converting > the drum brakes to disc. Both the oil pan and transmission > pan were leaking, > so dropped them both to re-seal. Some questions I have, > would appreciate > your help: > > Engine Oil pan: I'd pre-purchased a rubber and steel oil > pan gasket. To my > surprise, when I dropped the oil pan, there is a windage > tray on the motor. > This wasn't done in 1964 for 383 engines from the factory. > I'm assuming > whoever rebuilt the engine put it in for a reason, so will > stick with it, so > do I need another gasket to go on top of the windage tray? > You may have > other, better ideas. Sealant? If so, what type and any > cautions about use > would be appreciated. I flattened out all the dimples > around the bolt holes > on the pan, so am pretty much good to go there. > > Transmission pan: The car has the original ball & > trunnion set up, A727 > transmission. > 1. I can see that someone put in a chrome dipstick tube, > which prompts my > first question. With the pan off, I can see that the > dipstick only protrudes > into the oil sump about 3/8". If you have a similar setup, > do you recall if > this is correct? Seems weird to me that the markings for > low-high on the > dipstick are actually a ways up the dipstick into the > tube. > 2. The only gasket I could get through my local parts house > is a cork and > rubber gasket. I've not changed a gasket in 40 years, but > hated the cork > ones we used at that time. Lot of mumbo jumbo then about > soaking the > gaskets, using gasket sealer, catching a full moon, doing a > secret > handshake, etc. How do you recommend sealing up the > transmission pan. > 3. I got about 4 1/2 quarts of tf fluid when I dropped the > pan. That seems > like a lot, which is why I questioned the length of the dip > stick. Assuming > I put in the amount I got out, should I put in 3 quarts > before starting the > engine, run it for a minute, then add another quart with > the engine off, > test from there? I'd seen some cautions previously about > adding too much > initially and don't want that, but also don't want to > starve the > transmission. > > Thanks all. /Butch/ Ferndale, WA > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car > transactions and negotiations > as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar > topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www > 1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- directly to that person. 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