Re: 63 engine parts colors?

["MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I too had this problem with Mopar labled engine paint.  I needed the early 
Hemi silver . Went to my Mopar dealer who did not have it, but found some at 
a dealer some distance away.  I ordered three cans and it was expensive 
especially after adding on shipping.. It was not the right shade of silver . 
Now I will be needing some early orange engine paint and will NOT get it 
from Mopar..................MO
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Altemose" <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: 63 engine parts colors?


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FYI,

A couple of weeks ago I was questioning the 'blueness' of Mopar brand
turquoise engine paint, PN P4120752AB.  It seemed way too 'blue'.

I ordered a pint from Eastwood of Chrysler Turquoise PN 51622 ZP for
$27 that seems a whole lot closer to the original color that's more
'greenish'.  More work and delays, but I'll be happier with it.

- Jim
Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
'63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
'63 Polara 500 (383)
'65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
'71 Bronco

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Gary,
>
> I did a little Web searching after reading your email. Nice to know
> I'm not crazy. The Mopar turquoise looks OK by itself, but when
> compared to an original part, it's very blue. Anyway, my car is a
> driver so I'll just shoot the rest with the same blue. Here's what a
> couple of guys on the Web had to say:
>
> From Dave:
> I'd like to recommend against the MOPAR spray bombs, as they have
> considerably more blue shading in them than did the original turquoise
> paint (correct color name). The noted restorer Roger Gibson has,
> through associate Frank Badalson, what they designate in ads in
> Hemmings and elsewhere as the correctly pigmented paint.
> I did a gasket teardown and rebuild of my engine a couple of years
> ago, and the areas still in good original condition were considerably
> different looking after using the MOPAR paint. That genuine turquoise
> is a unique color, and as someone else said, it'll run better with the
> turquoise paint.
>
> From Leo:
> If the '64 engine is the same color as a '67, here's a recipe right
> from Dupont. It's the correct Dupont turquoise paint recipe for '67
> 440ci. engines.
> 758 23.5
> 747 24.8
> 720 27.8
> 705 70.0
> 721 127.9
> 742 277.3
> 700 469.5
> I took this to the local NAPA and they stirred up this witches brew
> and put it in spray cans. It made three cans with a bit left over.
>
> - Jim
> Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
> '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
> '63 Polara 500 (383)
> '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
> '71 Bronco
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Gary H. <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Mopar painted all of it the same color "turquoise" as far as I know.
> >
> > But there is some controversy about the "turquoise" Mopar rattle can 
> > paint being too "blue" and thus not an exact match to the engine paint 
> > used in 1963 and later years.
> >
> > For example, the turquoise paint used in 1967 - 1968 should be the same 
> > as 1963. Restorer Roger Gibson sells pints of what he claims is really 
> > the correct color paint Mopar originally sprayed: he actually calls it 
> > turquoise green. You can phone him up to confirm.
> > http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/images/2009_catalog.pdf
> > http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/
> >
> > On the other hand, if you stick to the same Mopar brand and paint all the 
> > motor, then it will be consistent in appearance, if not technically 100% 
> > correct pigment.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary H.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > While I have the top of my 63 Dodge Polara 383 engine apart, I'm
> > > re-painting everything I can.
> > >
> > > For the valve covers, intake manifold and fasteners I've used Mopar
> > > brand engine paint - turquoise.
> > >
> > > There's two 3 hole fastener bars and a thin aluminum plate that fasten
> > > down the valley pan, along with a plug wire harness. These cleaned up
> > > pretty well and appear to have a considerably deeper green shade than
> > > the engine turquoise color.
> > >
> > > Were these parts a different color than the engine, manifold and valve
> > > covers? I'm guessing they should be same.
> > >
> > > So, I'm wondering if the turquoise Mopar engine paint I used is
> > > correct since it's noticeably more blue than the greener parts that
> > > appear to have preserved the paint reasonably well.
> > >
> > > As always, thanks.
> > >
> > > - Jim
> >
> >
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> >
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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --  
directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations 
as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to 
the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, 
reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar 
topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.