That is the best reason to put new torsion bars on.....all else is
new....best thing I ever did to mine. Its a must for our cars..been
there.
Now u have 2 opinions........02+.02 = *&^%$#)
Ollie
----- Original Message -----
From: "MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Torsion Bar Project...WOW
>
> Bob "if it were me" with all new ball joints and bushings-tie rod
> ends---
> Unless your car will not adust up to acceptable ride height with your
> current torsion bars, I would not change them . Put some heavy duty
> shocks
> on that luxury liner of yours and with all those things you are doing
> -it
> should drive like new.---Unless you are going road course
> racing!.......................MO
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Torsion Bar Project...WOW
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for filing me in.. makes sense now.. so even though my car is
>> stock, it could possibly benifit from a torsion bar upgrade,to give a
>> bit more "drivablity"
>>
>> Ollie wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>> My problem began when I pulled a 318 poly(SB) out of my 65 Satellite
>>> and
>>>
>>> replaced it with a 1972-440(BB). To compensate for the eng weight
>>> different
>>> I needed to upgrade the torsion bars immediately. At that time I did
>>> not
>>> know anything about this suspension system. (2 years later, much
>>> research, I
>>> am now an expert witness)
>>> Originally to get the vehicle aligned we had to lower the suspension
>>> system...the height adjustment... to be able to bring the camber and
>>> castor
>>> adjustments within reasonable adjustment range. We were not within
>>> specifications , but darn close.
>>> As a result of this folly my entire front end was to low. (ride
>>> height)
>>> My
>>> shocks were not getting full travel, they bottomed out hard , when
>>> that
>>> happened I was all over the road. Any speed in excess of 70 you
>>> were
>>> driving out of control, especially in any bumpy situation, risking
>>> life
>>> and
>>> limb.... but worst of all... my Mopar.
>>> I replaced the original torsion bars with .920's. (what they would
>>> have
>>>
>>> been from the factory with a Big Block) My research also told me that
>>> we
>>>
>>> have a weak tower system on our cars (upper A frame support) and they
>>> will
>>> sag. To compensate for this you need to replace the non-adjustable
>>> strut
>>>
>>> rods with adjustable ones, allowing you to drag the lower control
>>> arm
>>> fwd
>>> for castor adjustments.
>>> Even if you have not upgraded an eng...this torsion bar system is not
>>> near
>>> as tuff as a upper/lower A frame, coil spring system. We are dealing
>>> with 45
>>> year old vehicles and u need new torsion bars and adjustable strut
>>> rods.
>>> All
>>> of this learning curve has been rough, but today it has all come
>>> together.
>>> Now keep in mind MS Cruiser does not drive like a new Challenger,
>>> we're
>>> 45
>>> years of technology behind, but she loves to roll now....
>>> MOPAR.....Move Over Plymouth Approaching Rapidly
>>> Ollie's 2 cents.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:38 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Torsion Bar Project...WOW
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Cool results! refresh my memory.. what was the original problem?
>>> > was
>>> > this to make the ride firmer when ya step on it?
>>> > Ollie wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> MS Cruiser update...My torsion bar and adjustable strut rod
>>> >> upgrade
>>> >> is
>>> >> now finished. Complete alignment this morning. WOW !!
>>> >> Every problem I had has disappeared!! Getting full travel of my
>>> >> shocks
>>> >> now, swaying when hitting a bump is gone. Tommy was able to get
>>> >> everything within specs.
>>> >> I backed out of it at 105 mph. I had more rpm left and was
>>> >> comfortable
>>> >> with the steering. The one recommendation I would give anyone is
>>> >> to
>>> >> get
>>> >> this done first and not save it to one of the last projects as i
>>> >> did.
>>> >> I
>>> >> would also say the adj strut rods are a must. When we installed
>>> >> the
>>> >> rods
>>> >> and matched them to the original we were about 1/2 way in the
>>> >> adjustment. They are now pulled in all the way, no adjustment
>>> >> left.
>>> >> Just for info purposes..fender height ended up exactly 26" (for
>>> >> what
>>> >> its
>>> >> worth)
>>> >> Happy camper, Ollie
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >>
>>> >
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