RE: 64 Distributor post into turning the engine problems post...

[Kevin Merkley <krmerkley@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

This is just a suggestion because it happened to me.

Did you connect the torque converter to the crank with the 4 bolts on 
the flex plate?  If they are not connected, the engine will spin over 
the torque convertor and not start the car.

If they are not connected, there is a chance that the convertor may also 
slide back into the bell housing and be too far away from the starter 
gear.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

K.
Layne Grissman wrote:
> 
> Transmission is the A727....completely rebuilt...but it is the first
> time we have put everything together in years...and tried it....
> 
> Layne
> 
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, <Dodger7998@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I doubt it is the wiring, the wiring only supplies the power, and you 
> > sai=
> d
> > it spun when you hit the key,,,,,,,,,am guessing bad starter or wrong
> > starter =A0ring,,,,,,,,,,what is transmission ?
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/1/2009 1:17:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > 64Polara500@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > ${top_text_ad}
> > Big question...Last night, Dad and I tried =A0turning over the engine 
> > for
> > the first time. =A0When we turned the key, =A0the Starter ( a Mopar Mini
> > Starter) Turned, but did not engage the flywheel =A0to turn the engine
> > itself....Seems like the Bendix drive didn't catch at =A0all...or even
> > extend to catch the flywheel...
> >
> > this goes along with =A0something I was reading below...Could this have
> > to do with wiring or the =A0way we have the car wired? =A0or do you guys
> > think the starter could be =A0bad?
> >
> > Any ideas or thoughts would be helpful....We don't want to pull =A0the
> > header to get to the starter...OMG, what a nightmare that will =A0be....
> >
> > Layne
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill =A0Watson<wwatson6@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The ballast =A0resistor supplies reduced power only to the ignition 
> >> (coi=
> l).
> >> There is =A0a separate volage limiter in the instrument panel for the
> > gauges,
> >> =A0usually a unit on its own but sometimes inside either the fuel gauge 
> >> =
> or
> > the
> >> temp gauge.
> >>
> >> On cars in the 1960's the supply for =A0the instrument gauge voltage 
> >> lim=
> iter
> >> came from the windshield wiper =A0switch via an 18 gauge black wire. 
> >> =A0=
>  That
> >> wire was connected at =A0the wiper switch to a 16 gauge black wire that 
> >> =
> ran
> >> from the windshield =A0wiper switch to the ignition switch, ACC 
> >> connecto=
> r.
> > That
> >> way the =A0windshield wipers, and the gauges, got power only when the
> > ignition
> >> =A0switch was in either ACC or RUN positions.
> >>
> >> If you have a 12 =A0volt coil and the distributor can handle a 12 volt
> > input,
> >> you can =A0bypass the ballast resistor. =A0 The BR was originally 
> >> instal=
> led
> > when
> >> manufacturers went to 12 volt ignition. =A0 The points could =A0not 
> >> hand=
> le 12
> >> volts and wore out very quickly. =A0 The BR was =A0placed before the 
> >> coi=
> l to
> >> eliminate the need for a 12 volt coil. =A0And it was easier, and 
> >> cheaper=
> , to
> >> reduce the 12 volts of the =A0car's electrical supply than to reduce the
> > bumped
> >> up power put out by =A0the coil.
> >>
> >> There are four wires on the ballast resistor =A0-
> >>
> >> For the START side (power bypasses the resistor) :
> >> =A0BROWN (18 gauge) - from the ignition switch - START position
> >> DARK BLUE =A0(18 gauge) - to the coil
> >>
> >> For the RUN side (power runs through =A0the resistor) :
> >> DARK BLUE (16 gauge) - from the ignition switch - RUN =A0position
> >> DARK BLUE (18 gauge) - from the voltage regulator - =A0IGN
> >>
> >> Bill
> >> Vancouver, BC
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- =A0Original Message ----- From: "SB" <polecat2@xxxxxxxx>
> >> To: =A0<1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 =A09:09 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Installing Elec Distributor in 64 =A0Dodge
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Herb,
> >>>
> >>> I =A0thought everything under the dash received its power from the =A0w=
> elded
> >>> splice connection that comes from the alternator charge =A0wire? =A0I h=
> ave
> >>> completely bypassed the ballast resister in a =A0number of cars I upgra=
> ded,
> >>> with no ill effects. =A0I am not =A0doubting you, just looking for
> >>> clarification in case I am =A0wrong.
> >>>
> >>> =A0Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Herb =A0wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Note!! =A0Do Not just bypass the ballast =A0resister as it also supple=
> s (the
> >>>> other wire from the resister) =A0reduced voltage to the voltage regula=
> tor
> >>>> in your dash for the =A0gauges.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Kevin R. Merkley
Thunder Bay, Ontario
64 Dodge 440 2dr HT (Cdn)
64 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible (Cdn)


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.