I have gotten a couple of sets of 2.14/1.81 valves from a guy on eBay - I believe his user name is Enginebldr or something like that. Anyway you can "buy it now" for less than $120 for a set, or sometimes bid on them and get them for under $100 for the set. I put them in the early small chamber heads, (usually spending around $200 for new guides and the seat work), then blend the bowls and gasket match the ports. Had a set of these on a '67 440 with the stock pistons upside-down, a hydraulic cam, and a 750 Holley on the '67 cast intake (with a 2" 4 hole spacer) that would run 12.0's all day long in a 3300lb 63 Savoy many moons ago. SC -----Original Message----- From: Joey [mailto:jake4@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:50 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question Hey Steve, They should be 2.08" intake diameter and I think 1.74" exhaust, I don't know what your combination is but if a budget build is the plan then why not get a good three angle valve job and call it a day. Remember, VERY IMPORTANT, make sure the installed height is correct and the springs are compatible with the cam you choose. I have lots of horror stories there from over the years. You would be surprised how many times we have checked new heads out of the box from various aftermarket manufacturers to find the installed heights all over the place and in one case an almost comical mismatch batch of parts. Have your local machine shop check them out before bolting them on. I won't be around too much for awhile, midterms are here, damn summer school is killingh me, LOL Joey ----- Original Message ----- From: "MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question > > Well, good news for me! I thought the heads I had stashed away were > 906's I dug them out tonight and find that they are actually 452's Now > to clean them up and magnaflux., These are large valve heads, but I > think there are slightly larger valves available ( for sunken seats?) > Would it pay off in performance to use the largest valves that will > fit?..............................MO....sw iowa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joey" <jake4@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question > > >> >> I know of at least 4 cars that have the same combination of ported >> 452's with MP .590 flat tappet cams and Holley street Dominator >> intakes that are consistent 10.70 cars with little maintenance and I >> consider that cam to be a dinosaur with todays available grinds. >> Joey >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SB" <polecat2@xxxxxxxx> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:38 PM >> Subject: RE: 452 Heads Question >> >> >>> >>> In the early 1970's, when the Hemi was gone from NASCAR, Richard >>> Petty had some of his best seasons. He used the 346 heads on his cars then. >>> I agree that the 452 heads, which came later, are the best common heads. >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person >>> -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >>> negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >>> recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will >>> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune >>> the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >>> >>> '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >>> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- >> directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >> negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >> recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will >> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune >> the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >> >> '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >> >> >> >> > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune > the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.