There ya go. I do remember the long rams seemed to be in the big cars. I wonder if we can find info on Norm Thatcher on the net? I know he set many Bonneville records with his Mopars. Plymouth as I recall? Rich Kinsley ===================================================================== spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > From the book "Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth Muscle" By Tony Young: > > There were 2 versions: long ram and short ram. They look identical but > have internal difference: > > --> long ram (D-500 Ram Induction): passage wall ran from plenum chamber > below carb to cylinder head surface for maximum torque; tuned to lower > rpm; came on passenger cars > > --> short ram passage went 10 1/2 inches from the cylinder head surface; > tuned to higher rpms (circle track / drags); available through parts > counter > > D-500 383 long ram: 330 hp @ 4,800 rpm & 460 ft lbs torque at 2,800 rpm > D-500 383 short ram: 340 hp @ 5,000 rpm & 440 ft lbs torque at 2,800 rpm > > Using short ram manifolds, 282 degree solid cam, etc. a (1961?) Dodge > D-500 went 134.12 on the El Marage lake bed -- Hot Rod Magazine test > > Thanks, > Gary H. Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.