I think I'll give the mirror trick a try before removing the bumper, I don't think it hard to unbolt the bumper, but the sucker weighs a ton, so I'd wait until I get a couple of guys over to drink my beer... > I have found some bumper platers not far away and their prices my > be better even with shipping.. the only place in town I've found to do plating is Industrial Plating, and for bumpers they send them of to Minnesota (they don't have vats big enough or can't pass the environmental regs.. ) > Yup, if you don't have a 57-61 over there (FL) , > you are somewhat insignificant . :-).. I was gonna tape some cardboard fins to my '62 and post a picture in the member "Forward Look only" section... ;) but I don't know how they'd take it... there is some good info over there, but I always have to preface questions with "How do you <blank> on a '60 to '62 Newport? ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.