Shipping wieghts . I have never found them to be even within 400 ponds. I dont konw what shippng weight really means. Here are two of my experiences. I built a 63 post car in the 70/ 71. I traded a 383 street engine I had built for a busted street hemi and did the hemi to race specs back then. Car was pushbutton auto and I bought and used a Dana 60 diff. Had a 3 point roll bar and a VW bucket seat. Nothing else in the car. I weighed it at Golden Mile Dragway. (Georgetown ONtario) before a meet. It weighed 3750. I was almost sick. I think shipping wieght on a v8 was 3100 . The only thing heavy was the dana and the hemi might have had 50 pounds on a 440 but 3750? So i weighed it at another track Same weight. I eventually transferrd that driveline to a 69 dart 2 dr hrdtp. . We had plexi side windows. Doors were nothing behind the upholstery and had holes in the bottom of the door as well. One bucket seat also VW. A VW fuel tank in the trunk. We skinned the hood and removed the hinges. Glass front fenders no inner fenders Removed hedlights and tail lights. Removed trunk hinges and pinned it instead. Tubbed it . We even drilled swiss cheese holes in the door hinges. I weighed it at Cayuga. Division one track for NHRA meets back then. it weighed 3050. I ws hoping for 2700. And of course the Old reliable car. Bool said 3600. Car weighed on every scale i tried 3950 with empty fuel tank and no driver. Xo that is why i say weigh it. Guessing just doesnt work. The shipping weights i do not understand. because the car never weighs that. A lort of good tipps here from the folks. I especially liked the recycle yard tipp. Good idea. Don Author of Return to Deutschland (True Adventure) Old Reliable (Mopar) http://altonapublicschool.faithweb.com/ http://seniordragster.bravehost.com/index.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.