God bless you, Don! I love it when you get wound up. Bob in Sacramento Don Dulmage wrote: > > > I have not seen a cam better although I did find one as powerful. but it > was murder on springs which the Racer brown was not. > It is faster than the mopar mini express 654 mushroom . Faster than the > ultra dyne 613, faster than the comp 650 faster than the mp 509 and 590 > both. just for a few. > Its biggest frawback is it was designed 40 od years ago and people just > cannot concieve the idea that Racer was that far ahead but he was. He > understood our engines like no other. > I am talking now my style of motors with ported iron heads (280 to 290 > cfm) Once you go to the eddy and indys you can run a lot more lift. > Still though a good Racer B could give the competition fits. > I believe one cam in particular the ST-h 42 has no peers. period. it is > just flat out violent. > The extrme energy by Comp is the first real serious work since racer > brown that has been done for our mopars. Before that we were just buying > Chevy cams on Dodge cores whether we choose to believe it or not. I > have had some good success with Lunati cams too. Especially the Cheater > Stocker series. Both hydraulic and solid lifter. They are harder to get > now. since holley turned it from a technical company into a package and > sell outfit but those cams are still around here and there. > Me though in truth i am wearying of explaining what i found out. Must > be getting old. > I constantly hear I bought this instead of the racer brown and I see for > the chioce they did not understand. The racer costs no more, was fastrer > and easier on parts. For me that is a no brainer. > Comp cams has some chrysler specific lobes in thier library which are > good although lift is too high to be real good for iron heads but they > wil mae them for you if you understand what to order. > I guesss the bottom line is this. > We ran 11.51 or I did in a 3950 # car with me at the wheel who weighs > 306 # . That is 4256#. That actual run is in the video or dvd some of > the folks have. (I broke out against the camaero coupe) The car had 4.57 > gears. 10.5 slicks and shifted at 6150 rpm. I personally have not seen > anyone recently run that heavy a car wth those times. I am sure someone > is but not in my area. Why would a person not want that type of > performance when it is so straight forward and simple.? Because i think > it is so straight forward and simple. Not shiny enuogh , not fancy > enough just real darn fast and trouble free. cant possibly be is what > the "ezperts say, but it is. Racers cams both were a big part of this > success. I tried several others in that car. They just didnt have the > suds, desite all the hype i read about them in Magazines and ads. What > more can i say? > Take a similar grind from someone else and takean ST H 42 for instance > and set them side by side. The difference will floor you! You will > suddenly realize there is a lot more to mopar cam desgn that just > siimlar specs on a sheet of paper. How fast it opens and closes is > pretty significant. Racer already understood these limits and took full > advantage of them years before anyone else. > If you have a distain for old technology and some do. Then search > "Bombardier Beetle" and see how old the rocket engine really is. Yeah I > think the RBs are superior in many cases. Far better than we realize. > Sure they can and will be improved on but it wont be by MP anymore than > the chevy guys are expecting the next big cam to come from GM perfomance > parts. It will be from some little guy shop who is playng around to see > what happens when he tries this or that. Not some big firm run by a > money hungry blood sucking parisite (aka BSPs) who only can see how many > they can make and sell. > WHen i did the Lemans Pracice engine (400 Mopar ) for Europe, I asked > Christphe Schwartz why he came to me for the motor. He said in France > where he lives they have a saying. "All the best cakes come from the > smaller shops" I had never heard that before but to me it made sense. > They have the time and interest to make it as good as poosible and dont > needto sell 0000 every day tostay alive. > Sorry I got so wound folks. I AM awake now! > Don > Author of > Return to Deutschland (True Adventure) > Old Reliable (Mopar) > http://altonapublicschool.faithweb.com/ > > http://seniordragster.bravehost.com/index.html > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.