RE: Floor Pan

[ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx]

I'm no body man by any means and I spent the last 2 days doing the 
finish bondo work on the patch panels my buddy (a body man) welded in 
for me. It IS very time consuming, but I watched every thing he did as 
he was teaching me how to do it. The way I see this whole hobby is there 
are still things I don't know how to do, but since this is not the last 
car I will be doing, I want to learn every aspect of the restoration. I 
have done EVERYTHING on my 64 Polara except for the front end 
alignment.I realize not everyone is mechanically inclined, but if you're 
going to restore old cars you have to decide early on if you can do the 
work yourself or pay for it. When I was a teenager I couldn't afford to 
have someone fix my cars, so I had to learn to do it myself. I have 
spent the last 35 years accumulating tools, knowledge, and a great 
garage to work in. I also thank God that I have those skills and 
resources to do it, and a good wife to put up with it! Sorry for the 
long post.

george smith wrote:
> 
> Couldn't agree more! After taking apart window regs.
> out of my parts car,I realized a good body
> man,including painters,don't charge enough! I have
> neither the patience or expertise for that work. If
> you find someone good you trust,let him do his job for
> you.Once I saw my car,all the money I spent was worth
> it.
> --- Dean Miller <plypkup41@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Don't take this the wrong way guys,I'm a painter in
> > a
> > body shop.But if it looks so easy why don't you do
> > it
> > your self?P.S. our labor rate is $46 an hour.
> > --- Paul Lennemann <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Can't offer an opinion on your situation, I can
> > only
> > > relate mine.  I 
> > > took mine to a shop to get an estimate on rust
> > > repair & paint.  To fix 
> > > the rust in the dog leg of the front fender, the
> > > rear wheel arch, the 
> > > lower 1/4's and a little on the rocker panels the
> > > quote was $9000.00!  
> > > Including $2500.00 in materials, and that's with
> > me
> > > providing all of the 
> > > repair panels and R&R'ing all of the stainless! 
> > So
> > > maybe the escalation 
> > > in prices in our cars has also led to an
> > escalation
> > > at the body shop.  
> > > Or they just didn't want our jobs so they bid them
> > > high.
> > > 
> > > Paul L.
> > > '63 Sport Fury
> > > 440/727
> > >
> >
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html
> > > 
> > > Dave Harms wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I am in need of replacing the driver side front
> > > floor pan on my car. I 
> > > > know I can get the floor pan for about $100. I
> > > stopped by a body shop 
> > > > Friday to get a quote on what it would cost to
> > > replace the pan and was 
> > > > shocked to get a cost of $500 for about 10 hours
> > > of work. Does this seem 
> > > > 
> > > > reasonable? Seems to me that the old junk could
> > be
> > > cut out in less than 
> > > > an hour, prep car to receive new pan about an
> > > hour, cut new pan and weld 
> > > > 
> > > > in in about 3 hours. Total time=5 hours at
> > $50/hr
> > > is $250 which seems 
> > > > more reasonable to me. I'm making the assumption
> > > that being as it's a 
> > > > body shop, they've got the latest in tools and
> > > technology to "get in and 
> > > > 
> > > > get out" of projects. Am I out of wack here?
> > BTW,
> > > the car has no carpet 
> > > > in it, door panels are on it and seat can easily
> > > be removed.
> > > > 
> > > > 64 Polara 500 Convertible
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul L.
> > > '63 Sport Fury
> > > 440/727
> > >
> >
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dean Miller
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      
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> 
> 
> George
> 
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Jeff Adams
64 Polara


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