it would take less than an hour to make 4 hole wooden spacers. I made a complete manifold top from plywood and raced it for ocer a year before having it cast in aluminum. In facti stilll have it downstairs. Sealed it with garge floor paint which is fuel and oil poof. Don There is a picture of the manifold prototype on my Sympatico big-d website Look under Dons Dodges (DOnDulmaGE) or my name in your search to find it if interested. it is under 2X4 page. I remeber going to the track with the Oold charger and the new Plywood manifold . My friend Hemi guy Dwight Vorstfeld came over as I backed the car off the trailer. What did you do to the car he asked. Why I asked. I am not stupid he said (two squareheads talking here so bear with me) I can hear the difference. I made a plywood top for an old SS manifold I said. He didnt believe me so i popped the hood. Man I cant believe it . How did it work? Wondeful G wager who is on the group here now made the first pass in the car with this and ran an 11.49 MPH was up signifcantly too. When I recast it in aluminum using the plywood for a moldd plug it ran exactly the same times so the wooden was neother faster or slower than the aluminum. I have heard that Jazzy Jim Nelson made the first cross ram for the Max Wedge the same way. We forget very easily that aluminum melts somewhere between 1250 and 1300 F while wood des not melt and if it burns is at 3000 F enough to melt aluminum iron or whatever. HMMMMM maybe i could make a set of oak cylinder heads? MMMMMM Don Author of Return to Deutschland (True Adventure) Old Reliable (Mopar) http://altonapublicschool.faithweb.com/ http://seniordragster.bravehost.com/index.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.