Ok Robert I'l check with Kramers and Laysons before I order the windlace but I wont buy anything from Laysons unless they're at a swap meet and have the part right there with them. Steele has the windlace in the turquoise color I need listed for a 4 door sedan which I'm sure should fit my wagon since they both use the same doors. Legendary doesn't carry it, I asked when I ordered the seat covers. The windlace thst's on my Fury convert is also cloth and looks just like the stuff in your pictures. I bought the U-jamb seals for my convert from Restoration Specialties (actually I think they're getting them from Steele) At first I didn't think they were going to fit either but what I did was trim away some of the windlace under the seals and they worked out fine. Did you put new foam in the front seats? Just wondering if that's why the seat covers fit so tight. Dan 63 Fury Convert 64 Belvedere Wagon ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.