Good point. If the metal is structurally sound with surface rust you can use POR or similar product that prevents FURTHER rusting. Otherwise replace the metal. My understanding is that the key action these products have is elimination of oxygen reaching the rusting metal. No oxygen, no further oxidation. But you have to be careful: even a pinprick sized area that does not get covered by POR or its equivalent will allow air in and rust will continue under the POR etc. I've coated the inside of some bumpers with POR about 15 years ago; the bumpers were pitted and pretty rusty before but today still show no evidence of rust coming back. I did the same to a part of the under side quarter area and after after several years had to go back in and redo it as I saw rust bubbles under the POR. I missed full coverage is my diagnosis. FWIW, there is a comparison article posted on the Eastwood Web site that compares POR to Eastwood's Rust Encapsulator. No surprise! -- the article favors Eastwood's Rust Encapsulator, but it is from a auto restoration magazine and is worth reading, imho. http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=852&itemType=CATEGORY&code=1CJBAN8 Lastly, one trick on using the POR: drill a hole in the lid of the POR can and pour what you need into another container. Get a roofing sheet metal screw that is slightly larger than the hole you drilled and screw it into the hole you made in the can. The rubber gasket on the roofing sheet metal screw will, along with the remnant POR surrounding the screw hole, form a airtight seal for storage. When you need more POR, repeat the process with another hole. Gary H. > ----- Original Message ----- > > On 10/28/07, Brian Safford wrote: > > > > And just remember that after you're all done, the rust is still under > > there. It won't get any worse, but it's not like this stuff turns it > > back into steel. ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.