Re: New Chrysler Corp. commercial

[Ronald Nies <383man@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

All I have to say is that in 62 the 413 Max Wedge was a street legal car and 
the 62 Fury is no bigger then the GTO so I would say .........yes Ma Mopar 
already stuck a big eng in a mid sized car way before the GTO.   And Mopar 
had faster cars then the GTO.   The only thing I will give the GTO credit 
for is that they did a good job of advertising and selling it for a good 
price to teenagers.    And if the kid in his new GTO raced a 63 Fury with a 
383 he had a good race on his hands.  But if some youngster had the cash and 
bought the lower comp 11.1 to 1 Max Wedge 426 he Mr GTO got his butt handed 
to him and hard.  Who cares who gets credit for inventing the Muscle Car I 
just know Mopar invented the Max Wedge !!!!    Ron
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ozolins" <j_ozolins@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <poncho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial



Yes, the word "precursor" is very important there.

I won't argue that these high-powered cars weren't "muscular," but these
precursors did not kick off the Muscle Car phenomenon of the 60's. That's
what I'm using as a definition of a Muscle Car. Not just power to weight
ratio.

That's where I have to call B.S. when Chrysler claims to have invented the
musclecar.
Chrysler, Ford, and the rest of GM had to catch up to Pontiac after the
introduction of the GTO.
Only Pontiac had the foresight and the guts to take the risk, and once it
proved popular, and profitable, did the others climb on board.


Jim O. (I invented the Pepperoni Pizza.)





> From: Dan McCormack <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:48:57 +0000
>
> From the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. Notice the last sentence:
>
> The Studebaker Golden Hawk was a two-door pillarless hardtop coupe type
> car produced by the Studebaker Corporation of South Bend, Indiana
> between 1956 and 1958. The Golden Hawk took the basic shape of the
> 1953-on Champion/Commander Starliner hardtop coupe but added a large,
> almost vertical eggcrate grille and raised hoodline in place of the
> earlier car's swooping, pointed nose, as well as a raised trunklid and
> befinned rear quarters.
>
> That grille and raised hood were to take a larger engine, Packard's big
> 352 in³ (5.8 L) V8 at 275 bhp (205 kW). This big, powerful engine in
> such a light car gave the Golden Hawk a phenomenal power-to-weight ratio
> (and thus performance) for the time; of 1956 American production cars,
> the Golden Hawk was second only to Chrysler's 300 B by that measure -
> and the expensive Chrysler was a road-legal NASCAR racing car. The
> Golden Hawk can be considered, like the Chryslers, a precursor to the
> muscle cars of the 1960s
>
>
> Jim Ozolins wrote:
> >
> > Crap! I didn't know the '64 GTO was a Chrysler!
> > I was interested by that commercial, too.
> >
> > Did they take credit for inventing the internet, as well?
> >
> > Jim Ozolins
> > '64 Valiant
>
>
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topic.  Thanks!

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