Re: Stainless brakeline recommendations

[Menko <menkoj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks everyone for your recommendations!  I made several lines
successfully, and a friend of mine bought a hydraulic flaring tool,
which does double-flares effortlessly.  So I'm all set, just went with
basic steel.

MJ


On 7/29/07, Jim Jablonski <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Let me add that double-flaring is not difficult once you get the hang of
> it (I base this on the fact that I can do it ...).  The key is buying a
> good tool.  Per a recommendation from Bob Grosser at Fine Lines,
> purchase the Imperial Eastman 93-FB, which can be found on the Internet
> for $50-60.  Bob also gave me this tip:
>
> Another tip is to debur the inside diameter of the line.  For brake
> lines, gently make a few revolutions with a 1/8 bit in a hand drill,
> mounted in a vice.
>
> As anything, practice is best.  But a small section of brake line at
> your local parts store and cut it up, then flare away.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
> Dave Casey wrote:
> >
> > The guy who wrote that won't die if it fails, unless he's in the car in
> > front of you, and we can bet he'll be in a GM, so him being in front of
> > you
> > is not too likely.
> >
> > ALWAYS double flare brake lines. Single flared tubing is more likely to
> > split and have a failure at the flare, and while some stainless tubing,
> > especially seamless, is less susceptible to this than mild steel tubing,
> > its
> > still safer to double flare it.
> >
> > I wouldn't call Hot Rod magazine the last source on anything. I have
> > single
> > flared stainless fuel lines on my own car, but that's not anywhere near
> > the
> > pressure a brake line sees. On an airplane, everything is double flared
> > fpr
> > reliability.
> >
> > A better source of information on the subject would be the race car
> > hardware
> > and plumbing book, which was co-written by at least one guy from Earl's
> > fittings, but the advice in there is very practical and reliable. Title
> > is
> > "Carroll Smith's nuts, bolts, fasteners, and plumbing handbook".
> >
> > I bet you could even find a lawyer who would sue you if you ever sold
> > the
> > car and a single flared brake line failed.
> >
> > Most commonly available stainless tubing (like that used in pre-bent
> > tubing
> > kits) is easily double flared using the standard kits, as long as the
> > wall
> > thickness is reasonable. If you buy some especially heavy walled tubing,
> >
> > you'll wear out your flaring tool and yourself unless you have an
> > expensive
> > flaring tool ($300+). The $30 kit works fine on the common stuff.
> >
> > Dave Casey
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <chymar01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Stainless brakeline recommendations
> >
> >
> > >
> > > according to the August issue of HOT ROD, you don't need to double-flare
> > >
> > > stainless tubing.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: Menko <menkoj@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >> I thought I remembered reading that stainless was rather difficult to
> > >> flare? I have a double flare kit (a crappy one) that I have used for
> > >> regular lines.
> > >>
> > >> George have you ordered straight line from anywhere you liked?
> > >>
> > >> MJ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 6/18/07, george smith wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Get a double flare line kit,25+ ft. of line and make
> > >> > them yourself.Cheaper and the satisfaction is
> > >> > priceless.
> > >>
>
>
>
>
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