I have pics of the z-bar modification. the tube is thinner gauge than the V8 unit, and one arm is too short. see this and click on 'next' to see all the pics. http://www.autohobbydigest.com/msl/?5327 ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.