Re:Seat Belts

[Bob Fortson <bobt1885@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the info Bill...My plates had rounded
corners and sides. The corners were rounded at 1"
radii and the under edges rounded all the way
round...They are fab'ed out of 3/16ths steel.  My
buddy was responsible for the rounded corners and
edges

Bob Fortson
--- Bill Watson <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> 
> Back in thoee days, seat belts, radios and heaters
> were all optional, but
> Chrysler did have the needed four front anchors
> installed at the factory,
> complete with threaded nuts and bearingn plates
> welded to the floor.
> 
> My omly concern on your installation is over the
> anchor plates (or bearing
> plates as Chrysler called them).  They should either
> be round or have two
> parallel sides curved away from the floorpan.  See
> the factory installed
> front anchors to see what I mean.   There is a
> possibility that the square
> corners could cut into the floor as the passenger is
> thrown forward on
> impasct.  This would result in the plate cutting
> through the floor and the
> seat belt anchor coming free.  Also, the bearing
> plate should be thicker
> than the floor pan steel.
> 
> A sharp piece of sheet steel can do a bit of damage.
>  Back in 1973  I hit a
> Chevrolet Impala at an uncontrolled instection (my
> fault).   The front edge
> of may 1972 Dart cut into the front fender of the
> Impala and the resulting
> twist in the hood edge, as the Impala driver
> continued from my right to left
> through the intersection, sliced the front fender,
> front door, rear door and
> rear quarrter panel.   Cost $150 to reapair and
> paint the hood edge and
> replace the front bumper.  The Impala was written
> off.
> 
> As to having the centre belts share holes/mountings
> with the outer belts, I
> do not see what the problem is.    I have yet to
> come across a facotry
> installation where the centre belts are mounted
> separate from the outer
> belts.   Check the front seat belt installation on
> any six-passenger sedan.
> I have removed many front seats and seat belts from
> cars of the 1970's to
> get the carpetting and iusulation and all had but
> four anchors to button
> down three sets of belts.  Same on the rear.
> 
> For the rear belts. the outer anchors should be low
> on the rise for the rear
> axle.  When installed, the anchor should be below
> the compressed seat
> cushion.  Same for the centre anchors, which should
> be installed on either
> side of the driveshaft hump.  If you get a chance to
> wander through a junk
> yard, check for a vehicle with the rear seat removed
> or remove one from a
> 4-door sedan or wagion.
> 
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:01:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bob Fortson <bobt1885@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Seat Belts?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Robert...Fitted belts in the rear of my 63 Fury
> 'vert.  I used "of the period" new belts and anchor
> bolts (available from many vendors...some much
> cheaper
> than Juliano's...seems to be same stuff)...I also
> used
> an anchor plate on the bottom side that I had
> fabricated about 3" X 3" with proper size hole...I
> simply passed the bolt thru and torqued.
> 
> The key thing is to see where the type belts that
> you
> buy want to go to properly restrain...then mark the
> close approx. spot from the inside of the car...BUT
> DON"T DRILL YET!!!!!Get your mate (or brother) to
> help
> yo make sure you are not drilling brke lines, fuel
> lines, etc.....we found it best to drill some holes
> from the topside down and some from bottom up to
> avoid
> those things that shouldn't be drilled !
> FYI...Installed 3 belts in the rear seat and used
> the
> the two inside (nearest the tunnel)bolts for double
> duty...I have an engineer friend that looked over my
> plates and the supplied eye-bolts and and pronounced
> them fit for double duty... he did suggest avoiding
> head ons at over 65 or so if doing threesomes in the
> rear...duhhhhhh.
> Any help here ?
> 
> Bob Fortson
> --- Robert <r.lane@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi again
> > Another question...
> > Has anyone out there fitted rear seat belts to a
> 63
> > Dodge (or similar - I presume there will be other
> > years of both Dodge & Plymouth b-bodies that have
> > the same/similar floor pans)?
> > We had our back seat out for the first time last
> > week to get the rear panels off to send to SMS for
> > resto (but that's another story!), and looked to
> see
> > if there was anywhere obvious to mount rear seat
> > belts. There wasn't. I know Julianos
> > http://www.julianos.com/catalog.html also sell
> > anchor plates which should make a neat
> installation
> > wherever they're fitted, but I was wondering if
> > anyone knows the best place to locate the fixings?
> > Were rear seatbelts ever fitted in these cars at
> the
> > factory or at the dealerships?
> >
> > Any help gratefully received, as ever.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Robert
> > 63 Polara 500
> > England
> >
> >
> >
> 
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