OK, its just getting worse and worse. So i just about have one side of my 65 cornet 4 to 2 door conversion done, thanks to the tutelage of the great wally Breer and lots of help and photos . but it was really bugging me that i couldn't see what kind of shape the INSIDE of the rocker panels were in, so I braced up the rocker area from below and sliced the top of the sill plate out with a cutoff tool, and have a look-see. Of course they were fine in there, but i slapped in some rust converter, blew it all around with compressed air to drive it into cracks and gaps followed by two coats of rustoleum and more compressed air. In the areas i couldnt get my arm into thru my "inspection panel" , I just put the rust converter into an oil pump can and shot a ton of the stuff in thru every hole i could find and used more air to move it around. did the same with the rustoleum. I originally tried a plastic pump spray bottle but the fluids were too thick and it couldnt handle it, but the oil pump can worked great. I welded the plate back in , ground it down nice and u cant even tell i was ever in there. I thought for sure the rockers would tweak and bend with that piece of metal out but everything looks fine and the door shuts just like before. So now i can sleep!! no wonder it takes me forever to finish anything with all the little perfectionist ideas i come up with neal zimmerman, eugene oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.