Okay,,,,,,,,,from the responces that I had receivied, the Max Wedge cast exhaust manifolds are out the door, I really wanted the Wow effect that they would have produced when opening the hood, and also liked the idea on not having to continuely retightening headers, but after hearing all of the HP that I was going to be giving up I decided that it was not worth over twice the cost for the Wow, (and the lost HP) I have orederd a set of Hedman Elites, they are suspose to be their heavier set of headers, (3/8 flanges ) with ceramic coating, 1 3/4 tubes, and 3 in. collectors, and I am sure that I will find some place else to spend the $500 plus that I will be saving , , , dodger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http:///u/?.. Or send an email to: 1962to1965mopars-unsubscribe@ http:///?p=