Re: discs

[george smith <bt6t4@xxxxxxxxx>]

Being a mechanic for yrs. and tight with a buck,I went
the salvage yard route.I used the tech article as a
guide. I went with Cordoda brackets and pin calipers
for the 11.75 rotors.I just didn't like the smaller
sliders. They were for fit for the smaller cars. I
spent less than 400.That included all new
lines,rotors,etc. Stopping power was a upgrade from
the 10" drums long ago.Since I won't be racing.I don't
mind being 2 tenths slower. Just a old Dodge guys
opinion...
Go with what works for you and what you're comfortable
with.
--- John Mopar <dodgepolara500@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> I installed a Stainless Steel Brake Disc kit in my
> 64 Polara. While I dislike the look of the GM master
> cylinder, the kit went it flawlessly and works well.
> Is there a reason you don't like to the Ford And GM
> stuff other than it is Ford and GM? I like it since
> I can get parts from the local auto store.
> 
> Prior to the disk brake kit, i was terrified to
> drive the car in heavy traffic or at speed on the
> freeway. I had to leave a huge gap between me and
> the car in front of me in order to stop. When I did
> leave the gap, a car would inevitably scoot in front
> of me. It made driving the car a chore and very
> nerve racking. I grew up driving cars with drum
> brakes, but today people drive faster with less
> distance between them.
> 
> John
>  
> 1964 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible 383
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ntolerance <ntolerance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:02:31 PM
> Subject: RE: discs
> 
> 
> Couldnt agree with you more Don. Friend of mine has
> a 67 Coronet that 
> runs 12.20's in 100 degree weather and has 10" drums
> all the way around. 
> Driving on the street, youd never know it.
> 
> I went with discs on my 65 well.....because they
> were in the trunk of 
> the car. Parts came from a diplomat squad car.
> Spindles, rotors, 
> calipers brackets, porportioning valve and light
> weight master.
> 
> There is alot of heated discussions about using the
> later car disc brake 
> parts. Without going into it all, I will just say
> that a friend of mine 
> did this moons ago on a 65 Satellite. (back in the
> early 90's) Car 
> originally had a straight axle, and he went to the
> brake parts from an 
> 84 Fury. I couldnt discern any difference in
> handling from any other 
> from suspension. The car didnt have a sway bar, but
> then again, it didnt 
> have one from the factory.
> 
> I dislike the disc conversion kits that use Gm and
> ford parts. For the 
> money, I would rather just run the diplomat parts.
> There are alot of 
> these cars still in junk yards. (same goes for cars
> like the cordoba, 
> magnum, 75 and up charger, 5th avenue, and Grand
> fury. All these parts 
> CAN be put onto an early B body) For the price of
> the kits out there, I 
> can save alot of $$$ and use that $$ for something
> else on my car.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Doc.
> 
> Don Dulmage wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I remember when discs first came . here where it
> snows everybody hated 
> > them The front wheel would lock up in a snow
> covered road stop and we 
> > would slide with no steering. Now they have
> antilock which keep the 
> > wheels from locking since we have learned that
> there is such a thing as 
> > too much braking as well. New cars have reduced
> rear brake sizes to 
> > laughable  in fact I think they might as well
> chuck them as they are 
> > about useless. So we reduce beaking ower with
> antilocks so it doesnt 
> > skid etcetc. Sort of like wearing high heels and
> bending down at every 
> > door way. A good well set up set of metallic
> linings work well. It may 
> > not be what everyone wants but they cetainly are
> not unsafe.  Sometimes  
> > and more often than not the disc kits are crap and
> work worse than the 
> > original drums. Especially the ones for A bodys
> usung GM truck parts. 
> > some that i have worked with for customers have
> had the wrong sze master 
> > and not worked well. We wre able to cure it with a
> Cuda Challenger 
> > master intalation.One new kit i saw siezed when
> hot.  We had to change 
> > thecalipher to a different style fo piston
> (aluminum instead of 
> > pheneolic.)
> > Drum brakes of the bendix design (63 and later
> Mopars) are self 
> > engergizing , something disc brakes dont have.
> Biggest advantage of 
> > discs is the ability to get rid of heat. In a road
> racing situation 
> > there is no question they are neceassary as brakes
> can run red hot. but 
> > for the occasionally driven street machine or even
> the one stop only 
> > drag cars in the 12s or 11s i dont feel they are
> necessary. Discs are 
> > also slower because they drag all the time. I have
> seen claims of 2 
> > tenths. I have four friends who have had airheart
> disc failures on their 
> > race cars and gone of the end of the track two of
> these cars were 
> > converted to this half baked set up where YOU glue
> the pucks to the 
> > pistons. I think if I was to convert a B body i
> would search out a 69 to 
> > 72 B body and swap all the parts direct. Otherwise
> I do not like these 
> > mickey mouse made up half you know what combos
> that only bleed money 
> > from my friends wallets and dont work right. I
> HATE stuff that doesnt 
> > work "with a passion."
> > Don
> > Don 
> > Author of
> > Return to Deutschland (True Adventure)
> > Old Reliable (Mopar)
> > http://stores.ebay.ca/Don-Dulmage-Enterprises
> > http://seniordragster.bravehost.com/index.html
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > 
> 
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