RE: Rear End Swap Problems

[Earl Helm <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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I will not do business with Randy's... I have never gotten anyone on 
the phone who knows what they are talking about. I have never - I mean 
never - had a good experance with them. They are all about craming parts 
down your Visa account with NO customer service. Call West Coast
Differentials
800-834-5676.... or National Drivetrain 866-843-2906

Earl


On 27 06/30/05, Nick Tiberio wrote:
> I wanted to swap out my 1963 741 2:76 open rear for a mid-3 sure grip 
> unit. I called Randy's Ring & Pinion and they set me up with a 742 
> 3:55 SG unit with new yoke/u-joint/axle bearings/seals, nice. I asked 
> if this was a direct swap they said yes. I further questioned them and 
> faxed them an article about axle lenght problems. They said there was 
> no problems they new of, and never saw the information that I had sent 
> them. They will set me up with everything and I'll have no problems.
> Now that the car is on the lift and all apart, here's how my day went. 
> The inner and outer axle seals would not fit, way to big. I called 
> Randy's and they're not sure what will work and gave me some new part 
> numbers and said for me to try NAPA. The axle bearings would not fit, 
> way to big, they can't understand why, but call them tomorrow and let 
> them know how I made out.
> I will call as I must let them know that my axles from my 741 case 
> will not fit the 742 case as they are about 1/8" to long.
> 
> Just remember this:
> Axle 2070573 - 741 case w/o SG axle length 30 1/2"
> Azle 2404050 - 742 case w/SG   axle length 30 7/16"

It is maddening.  These guys not only claim to be experts,  all the Mopar
print media outlets routinely make similar claims in various tech articles
on their behalf (perhaps in exchange for free or discounted parts that the
journalist were bolting on to their project Roadrunner or Coronet R/T....
MGC is possibly excluded, because they don't do tech articles,  ....)

I called Randy's about 5 or 6 years ago when I discovered this very same
axle length problem myself on my 63 Dodge...  the tech guy I spoke with
continually pimped the green bearings saying it'd solve all the end-play
adjustment problems,,,  to which I made several attempts to describe the
problem in different terms, hoping he'd get it.  Even when I stated that the
thrust block on the two different diff's  measured out to different widths,
and even pointed out the different PNs on the axles...  he *still* insisted
that green bearings would fix it.  I finally gave up and told him "thanks,
but no thanks", to which I think he ended with another pimpin' of those
F@#$!*ing green bearings!!!

Certainly you and I aren't the only ones to ever call them about this
issue,   yet despite making 8-3/4"s their business and claiming
to have knowledgable tech guys on staff, they *still* won't address this.

I'm sorry to hear that you are in this situation.  I ended up using a 66-67
b-body housing & rear.  For me, that was a means to an end.

Doug Ahern
Athens, GA

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