RE: 65 Belvedere - electric fan, fuel pump, etc.

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My buddy's breakage could have also had nothing to do with what gear he 
started out in, too.
Jeff
tom hecht wrote:
> 
> that is worth noting jeff, but, i was referring to
> burnouts.
> 
> i have a cheetah valve body,the instructions say:
> "All water burnouts should be started in 2nd gear
> shifting to 3rd if necesary. If you should start
> burnout in 1st, shift immediately to 2nd before tires
> come out of water." also, "No matter if you have a
> transbrake or not, we suggest NOT DOING DRY BURNOUTS!"
> 
> that is from turbo action, makers of cheetah v.b.'s
> i have a good friend with a 10 second dart who is also
> a 727 specialist, he is the person who originally told
> me to not do burnouts in 1st gear.
> 
> your point is probably well taken for street driving
> though.
> 
> tom
> 65 satellite
> 
> 
> --- ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> 
> > I wouldn't advise starting in 2nd gear with a manual
> > shift auto trans. 
> > My buddy did that by acccident once, taking off in
> > 2nd thinking he was 
> > in 1st and blew the side out of his tranny, ruined
> > the case. Maybe it 
> > was just a fluke, but it made a believer outta me!
> > Jeff
> > tom hecht wrote:
> > > 
> > > #1, some people have an electric and mechanical
> > fuel
> > > pump, if you have a mechanical pump on the engine,
> > > then you do not need to have the electric on.
> > these
> > > set-ups just use the electric to force feed the
> > > mechanical pump. (not very common)
> > > that said, if your fuel lines are not running
> > through
> > > a mechanical pump, you will need to run the pump
> > to
> > > keep the engine fed. usually this is hooked to the
> > key
> > > so when the car is off, the pump is off, the wiper
> > > switch was just an available switch already
> > mounted in
> > > the car. (sometimes a theft deterrant)
> > > 
> > > #2, the fan is wired so after you shut the car
> > off,
> > > you can keep the fan on to cool the radiator, this
> > is
> > > often coupled with an electric water pump, which
> > keeps
> > > the cooled water running through the block.
> > > 
> > > #3, caution!!!, do not do your burnouts in 1st
> > gear!!!
> > > either start in first and shift right away or
> > start in
> > > 2nd when burning out.
> > > 
> > > if you downshift the trans from drive to 2nd it
> > will
> > > downshift!!!, no different than downshifting a
> > 4-speed
> > > car. (picture your head hitting the windsheild)
> > > the manual auto usually has a feature which allows
> > you
> > > to downshift from second through first, directly
> > into
> > > neutral, that is, it allows you to shift into
> > first,
> > > without actually down shifting the trans into
> > first,
> > > you will get used to down shifting from drive to
> > 2nd
> > > and sliding it through 1st and into nuetral when
> > you
> > > stop, like putting a 4 speed into nuetral at
> > stops.
> > > (it is a manual trans)nuetral to first locks it
> > back
> > > into 1st.
> > > as far as the manual valve body goes, if you don't
> > > like it, you can easily replace it with a normal
> > valve
> > > body.
> > > the manual does not lose any shifting time like a
> > > normal trans, that is its only purpose.
> > > 
> > > #3b,you should be able to see a line lock
> > mechanism in
> > > your brakelines, under the hood. if there is no
> > line
> > > lock, you may have a transbrake. usually you have
> > to
> > > hold the button to make the car backup, so it is
> > > likely a linelock.
> > > 
> > > sounds like a well set-up car, good luck at the
> > > track!!
> > > tom
> > > 65 satellite
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I recently bought a '65 Belvedere that is set up
> > as
> > > > a drag car with a
> > > > 383.  I'm not an experienced drag racer (though
> > I'd
> > > > like to be), and
> > > > I'd like to get a little insight into some of
> > the
> > > > 'goodies' it has. 
> > > > I'm trying to make a little more
> > street-friendly,
> > > > but I plan to take
> > > > it to the track sometimes.
> > > > 
> > > > 1. It has Barry Grant electric fuel pump.  The
> > fuel
> > > > pump is connected
> > > > to the windshield wiper switch, which is tied to
> > the
> > > > ignition.  Is
> > > > there a reason I wouldn't always keep the fuel
> > pump
> > > > on?  Or, am I able
> > > > to drive on the street without it and get better
> > > > mileage?
> > > > 
> > > > 2. It has an electric radiator fan on it's own
> > > > switch, which is NOT
> > > > tied to the ignition.  If I forget to switch it
> > off,
> > > > I kill the
> > > > battery.  Is there a reason not to connect it
> > the
> > > > ignition and have it
> > > > always on?
> > > > 
> > > > 3. It's a shifted-automatic with a 727
> > torqueflite
> > > > and Hurst
> > > > slap-stick shifter.  There's a button on the
> > shifter
> > > > nob that I
> > > > haven't figured out yet what it does.  Maybe a
> > > > line-lock?  Are there
> > > > any techniques/dangers for street driving I
> > should
> > > > be aware of?  It
> > > > seems pretty straight-forward; like driving a
> > stick
> > > > without the foot
> > > > pedal.  When I slow down to stop and I'm in
> > third,
> > > > I'm tending to slow
> > > > all the way down to almost stop with the brake;
> > I'm
> > > > not down-shifting.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > - Jim
> > > > Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
> > > > '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge), '65 Belvedere I
> > (Street
> > > > Wedge), '71 Bronco
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Jeff Adams
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