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From: Dave Casey <dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Toyota alternator swap Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:47:19 -0500
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The one wire doesn't put out at idle because it has to be excited. That's part of having a one wire.
Yes the ammeter, or more specifically the way its wired, is the weak link, which is why I'm replacing mine with a volt meter.
Wrong. Electronic distributors have two wires. Points has one.
Dave Casey
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Bolter" <bolterman@xxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: Toyota alternator swap
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--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: bolterman@xxxxxxxx To: northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:13:56 -0400 Subject: Re: alt swap
Neal, this is a trick set up. You get an alternator for a 1985 Toyota pickup, non-turbo engine. You can go up to 1992, but the 1985 has a V-belt pulley like our cars. You can either cut the harness plug out of a donor truck, or I found an electrical company that makes new patch plugs for this alternator, with wires about five inches long, for $8.39. I found another company online that makes complete mounting kits for this swap: one for big blocks, one for older small blocks, and one for newer small blocks, for $45.00. Finally, I found instructions on another website on how to wire it into our old cars--it's easier than you might think.
This came about because Mopar guys were buying Powermaster alternators, which are made by a company called Denso. Well, Denso also makes the Toyota truck alternator, and somebody discovered that, side by side, they look incredibly similar.
I want a reliable, rugged street car that I can hammer unmerciful over big road trips. So, here goes my thinking: Typical performance alternators are one-wire units, which are terrible at low speeds. The Toyota unit is a tiger at idle, far surpassing anything that came on our cars. Second, I don't want to go over 70 amps, as I have seen a few 70's Dodge trucks with original alternators in this range that literally melted the amp gauge. (The amp gauge is THE weak link in our electrical system--that's why all modern cars use volt gauges.) The Toyota's 60 amp unit will not be trouble. Third, it has an internal regulator, which further cleans up my firewall. Finally, it should be a lot easier to find if it fails on the road.
I am no expert, thus my thinking on this may be off, but I think this is a win-win idea. I prefer all Mopar parts, but I am also a realist.
P.S. Another advantage to using an HEI control module with a Mopar electronic distributor: You can route the little module under the dash. That way, people will think you are still running points! Unless they notice the ballast resistor is missing! To the naked eye, a Mopar electronic distributor looks like a points unit, right?
Sean Bolter 1964 Fury
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