Re: Digest for 1962to1965mopars@, issue 2396

From: Don Dulmage <big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:11:40 -0500

[AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your address. caac48Ta/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok . 218 is fairly mild so it may be ok. One trick that you can try for MPG that sometimes works although not always so you have to ex[eriment. is to set up the advance curve to what the engine wants mechanically then hook the vaccum advance to manifold vacumm. (check to see if has vacum at idle, that is manifold vacuum. Under light throttle which is high in manifold vacuum. yu will have the extra advance but when you stand on it manifold vaccum will fall to zero and the vacuum advance will be inactive. it iwill take some playing to find what works best but I have done it on Brank X for my bowtie buddies. having said that I must say that my 63 with the 400 I had in it,, with a 310 duration (adv) and 525" lift did give 14.97 mpg (Imperial gallon. (which is 5 american Quarts) on a really long trip with 3:91 gears. I thought that was more than respectable. It had full mechanical only in fact it had the distributor in it from my Old Relaible 440 , the one described in the book. That same distributor is sitting inthe 426 wedge currently occupying the engine bay. Don Author of Return to Deutschland (True Adventure) Old Reliable (Mopar) http://stores.ebay.ca/Don-Dulmage-Enterprises ----- Original Message ----- From: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: Digest for 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx, issue 2396 -- Topica Digest -- RE: Selling and shipping parts question By 62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By prebee65@xxxxxxxxxxx Dist mods By big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By D170A833@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx RE: Dist mods By KWesterlund@xxxxxxxxxx Re: Selling and shipping parts question By rtalley@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: Rear A/C Units By BANTAM38@xxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: Selling and shipping parts question By northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? By tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: Selling and shipping parts question By sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx Re: Selling and shipping parts question By sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx RE: Selling and shipping parts question By sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx Re: Clutch parts By Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx Re: Poly 318 2x4 By Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? By SherwoodK@xxxxxxx RE: Poly 318 2x4 By tduross1@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: Selling and shipping parts question By prebee65@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? By tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx RE: 64-65 Console top - item on eBay By fe2orr@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? By hell_fish_65@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? By tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx Conversion U-Joints By rlipinski3@xxxxxxx Re: Clutch parts By polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx Re: Poly 318 2x4 By polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx Re: Clutch parts By dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx Re: The use of por 15 By djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:05:26 +0000 From: Gary H. <62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Selling and shipping parts question At the bottom of the Vendor's page (http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/restore2003.html) there's a link to the site that hooks up people hauling stuff by hitching a ride on someone already hauling a tractor. You can also post your travel route here and maybe you can hook up with someone along the way who needs the parts. :) Gary H. Andy Grow wrote: > So if I take the fenders, doors, hood, etc to the lower-48 with us > in a trailer, once we get there, how do I ship 'em to someone who > buys 'em? > > Ironically, we are leaving a very remote part of Alaska, and we'll > be transferring to a somewhat remote part of Michigan. I would > imagine the closest Mopar swap-meet is about 700-1000 miles away > from where we'll be <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:23:35 -0500 From: "Brent Stewart" <prebee65@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 Got the stuff all over my arms once trying to get the underside of the rear window channel and front window channels. i tried everything to get it off and nothing worked. i gave up and sported my new por-15 tattoos for a few days , when a friend asked if i wanted to go swimming. after a few jours of splashing around and getting my skin nice and prune-like, when i dried off i knowticed there was no por -15 on me. now i don't know what it did to the pool filter, but it was already dry so it shouldn't have hurt anything, point is it did come off. That waqs the last time i used the stuff and it works great, just don't take your car swimming and you should be alright. >From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx >Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: The use of por 15 >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:06 EST > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm >your address. >caac48TbWhUHTa/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Just DO NOT get it on you. It will have to wear off. Otherwise, it's the >best stuff since sliced bread! Joe > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. >caac2NUbWhUHTf/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- >Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- >directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect >your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content >signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > >'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:33:53 -0500 From: "Don Dulmage" <big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Dist mods Dist mods still need to be done whaether you elect to use the vacuum advance or not.. It can be done either way but the bottom line is you need |(with anything other than a very mild cam) 34 to 36 degrees total advance and you need it earlier with a cam. A 400hp 440 would be hard to do. A bone stock one with a set of headers would be already there. (375 + 25 HP) and the combo could use a stock distributor as delivered from the factory. The addition of a good intake (IE Performer RPM) would add easily anothe 25 HP and that would ot affect advance requiremnets. A cam under 500 lift would not normaly have enough Duration to require full distributor mods (but not always) but would benifit from a quicker advance curve. Anything past that will really wake up with distributor mods. So why not tell us what cam you have and we could give a better answer. Any cam other than stock or an RV cam requires more intial without adding more total. This really really wakes up the engine , makes it easier to drive and puts the bottom end back in the engines power range. I hope this helps. Still the decision is yours. If you are happy with your idle quality, your bottom end performance and general perfomance then that is fine . However if it wants to stall when in gear and you have to keep giving it gas to keep it running and it is a dog out of the hole to about 2000 to2500 RPm then do the dstributor. Don Author of Return to Deutschland (True Adventure) Old Reliable (Mopar) http://stores.ebay.ca/Don-Dulmage-Enterprises [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:59:54 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Futrell <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 I've thought about using POR-15 in my trunk on the Savoy. I imagine it might eliminate any future rust problems. There was a post on another message board a few months ago, where a guy got some POR-15 on his privates. How it got there, I don't want to know, or how he got rid of it. Gary --> Got the stuff all over my arms once trying to get > the underside of the rear > window channel and front window channels. i tried > everything to get it off > and nothing worked. i gave up and sported my new > por-15 tattoos for a few > days , when a friend asked if i wanted to go > swimming. after a few jours of > splashing around and getting my skin nice and > prune-like, when i dried off i > knowticed there was no por -15 on me. now i don't > know what it did to the > pool filter, but it was already dry so it shouldn't > have hurt anything, > point is it did come off. That waqs the last time i > used the stuff and it > works great, just don't take your car swimming and > you should be alright. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:26:21 -0500 From: Doug Ahern <D170A833@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 On 13 01/19/05, Mr K wrote: > Hello everybody , I just was going through the catalog of POR15 and I > got to wondering about using it, has anybody used any of their products? I've never used POR-15, but I've heard nothing but great things about it. There are alternatives to POR-15, my local auto paint supply store has some quality alternatives, including one that comes in an spray can. spray cans may seem rinky-dink, but this was professional grade stuff and costs $8/$9 for a large can. I used it and it worked quite well. there have been list members who have shared positive experiences with rust converters found at local parts stores. Doug Ahern 63 Dodge 330 SW, 64 Dart 170 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:29:31 -0600 From: "Westerlund, Ken" <KWesterlund@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Dist mods Hi Don, I was thinking of doing the the distributor mods per the Old Reliable but keeping the vacumn advance (to increase MPGs on the freeway). I thought I might tigthen the allen screw in the vacumn advance unit to make sure it is only active during light throttle situations. Any suggestions? The engine has: * Comp Cams Xtream Energy XE262H cam (Duration at .05 is 218 and 224 degrees) (lift is .462 & .470) * Hooker Competition headers and dual 2.5 inch exhaust * Mopar performance electronic ignition with chrome box * Stock iron heads (452?) * Stock 1972 440 pistons * Mopar performance unsilenced air cleaner * Stock dual plane intake manifold (I have a performer RPM Plus that I may put on) * Demon 750 CFM carb The transmission has: * Shift kit * Stock high-stall converter * 4.2 lever The car has 3.23 gears and 29" rear tires (may go to 3.55 down the road). The car is strictly street driven and used as a daily driver with some street racing. Thanks, Ken -----Original Message----- From: Don Dulmage [mailto:big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:34 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Dist mods Dist mods still need to be done whaether you elect to use the vacuum advance or not.. It can be done either way but the bottom line is you need |(with anything other than a very mild cam) 34 to 36 degrees total advance and you need it earlier with a cam. A 400hp 440 would be hard to do. A bone stock one with a set of headers would be already there. (375 + 25 HP) and the combo could use a stock distributor as delivered from the factory. The addition of a good intake (IE Performer RPM) would add easily anothe 25 HP and that would ot affect advance requiremnets. A cam under 500 lift would not normaly have enough Duration to require full distributor mods (but not always) but would benifit from a quicker advance curve. Anything past that will really wake up with distributor mods. So why not tell us what cam you have and we could give a better answer. Any cam other than stock or an RV cam requires more intial without adding more total. This really really wakes up the engine , makes it easier to drive and puts the bottom end back in the engines power range. I hope this helps. Still the decision is yours. If you are happy with your idle quality, your bottom end performance and general perfomance then that is fine . However if it wants to stall when in gear and you have to keep giving it gas to keep it running and it is a dog out of the hole to about 2000 to2500 RPm then do the dstributor. Don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:30:19 -0600 From: "Bob Talley" <rtalley@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question Andy, Where abouts in Michigan, might be able to give you some swap locations. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Grow" <sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx> To: "62 to 65 Mopar list" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>; "318 Poly List" <318poly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:18 PM Subject: Selling and shipping parts question ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey guys. So if I take the fenders, doors, hood, etc to the lower-48 with us in a trailer, once we get there, how do I ship 'em to someone who buys 'em? Ironically, we are leaving a very remote part of Alaska, and we'll be transferring to a somewhat remote part of Michigan. I would imagine the closest Mopar swap-meet is about 700-1000 miles away from where we'll be, and for probably the first year I won't be able to take time off from my new job to travel anywhere. SNIP Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:25:59 EST From: BANTAM38@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Rear A/C Units In a message dated 1/20/2005 2:33:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, Acuda4me@xxxxxxx writes: but it needs a recharge or conversion. Recharge it with Freon or like replacement such as AutoFrost. Don't convet it to R134 which doesnt work as well. R134 also tends to leak more that Freon since it's molucules are much smaller. You would have to change all your rubber hoses if you converted. With a hugh car like a Station Wagon you need every bit of cooling power you can get. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:00:34 -0800 From: "Robert neal zimmerman" <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 Eastwood also has their own line that of course they claim is superior. As to POR -15 on the private parts, hey whats wrong with that? I use it daily. Neal Zimmerman, Eugene Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:04:08 -0800 From: "Robert neal zimmerman" <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question I have a massive pile of Mopar sheetmetal, I thought people would be all over it but nobody wants to pay roughly 300 bucks to ship a 150 dollar fender. It is so much in the way, I plan on getting a slot at portland Swap meet this spring and trying to dump it there cheap. If that doesnt work, practice scrap for my welding skills, I guess. I noticed sheetmetal often doesnt move on Ebay either ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:45:49 -0700 From: "Tom Watters" <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? Last night at a club meeting, someone asked me if my dart came with a factory tach. I told him I'd never seen a '65 Dart with a factory tach? Was there such an option? Anyone got a pic if there was? Thanks --TOM Tom 65 Dart GT 'vert 68 Plymouth 'vert Las Vegas, NV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:11:40 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Grow <sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question Paul, That's the best bit of advice anyone has given me in a long time...thanks for putting it back into perspective for me! I think I started thinking too much about things... Andy --- Skagdrager@xxxxxxx wrote: > Andy, > If I were your father, I'd say, "Son, you've done a great job in > gathering > counsel from wise sources. Now it's time for YOU to decide what > you're going to > do. It sounds to me like you maybe already know what that is. > Bottom line is it's a free country, even in Alaska. The car is yours > and you > can do with it as suits you best. Likely, no one will die as a result > of any > decision you make. > So if your Catholic, .......I absolve you...................I absolve > > you.....................I absolve you. > And if your not, .....do what you need to do. > End of sermon. > Now, if you only knew how disorganized my car situation is, you'ld > tell me, > "Physician, heal thyself." And you'ld be right. > Maybe I just talk when I should just shut up and listen. > I hope things go well for you. > Paul __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Grow <sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question Bob, We are moving to Sault Ste Marie - in the U.P. Thanks, Andy --- Bob Talley <rtalley@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Andy, > > Where abouts in Michigan, might be able to give you some > swap locations. > > Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:29:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Grow <sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Selling and shipping parts question Sweet...thanks Gary! Once we get our route planned out, I plan on posting our route along the way, maybe we can offload some of this stuff as we move! Thanks. Andy --- "Gary H." <62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At the bottom of the Vendor's page > (http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/restore2003.html) there's a link > to > the site that hooks up people hauling stuff by hitching a ride on > someone already hauling a tractor. > > You can also post your travel route here and maybe you can hook up > with > someone along the way who needs the parts. :) > > Gary H. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:30:31 EST From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Clutch parts For a stock driver, NAPA sells the Brute Force brand which is a well made set up. I put one in my early 460 Ford 4x4 5 years ago and it works fine. Joe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:10:20 EST From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Poly 318 2x4 Just an added note to Gary's response. An automatic trans will lessen the felt torque loss to a greater degree than a manual trans due to its torque multiplication from the converter. This will be most pronounced during initial take off from a stop, and somewhat less when pulling a hill at lower rpm's. Once the motor is up on the cam a little (1200 - 1500 rpm) any felt torque loss will be minimal. Whew... lotta 50 cent words from a dumb kid from Jersey! Joe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:22:35 EST From: SherwoodK@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? Tom: The 65 Dart did not have a factory tach. We put a tach in my brother's 65 GT and attached it to the steering column. Sherwood Kahlenberg -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:35:22 -0500 From: "Tom Duross" <tduross1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Poly 318 2x4 I'm impressed Joe! Tom Duross You from jersey! What exit? -----Original Message----- From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx [mailto:Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:10 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Poly 318 2x4 Just an added note to Gary's response. An automatic trans will lessen the felt torque loss to a greater degree than a manual trans due to its torque multiplication from the converter. This will be most pronounced during initial take off from a stop, and somewhat less when pulling a hill at lower rpm's. Once the motor is up on the cam a little (1200 - 1500 rpm) any felt torque loss will be minimal. Whew... lotta 50 cent words from a dumb kid from Jersey! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:41:24 -0500 From: "Brent Stewart" <prebee65@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question I been there. it is the border town between the US and Canada. It is not in the middle of no-where. I believe there is even a mopar plant in the area around the river,(well near tyhe really big bridge) the beauty of canada is that you drive about a half hour to an hour north and you are in the complete wilderness, but south is all american, billboards and MickyD's as far as the eye can see. >From: Andy Grow <sixtyfourmopar@xxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: Selling and shipping parts question >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:28:13 -0800 (PST) > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. >caac48QbWhUHTa/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Bob, > >We are moving to Sault Ste Marie - in the U.P. >Thanks, >Andy > >--- Bob Talley <rtalley@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Andy, > > > > Where abouts in Michigan, might be able to give you some > > swap locations. > > > > Bob > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. >caac2NQbWhUHTf/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- >Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- >directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect >your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content >signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > >'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:48 -0700 From: "Tom Watters" <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? Sherwood, Thats what I thought too. This guy looked at me pretty strange when I told him that I didnt think they came with one, and I couldn't picture how one would fit anywhere on the dash. He didnt believe me, as he said he had one. I told him the only dash different than mine that I've seen is one with a convertible top switch. I think the '65 barracuda had the option, but I agree with you that 65 darts didnt. --Tom On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:22:35 EST, SherwoodK@xxxxxxx said: > > Tom: > > The 65 Dart did not have a factory tach. We put a tach in my brother's 65 > GT > and attached it to the steering column. > > Sherwood Kahlenberg > Tom 65 Dart GT 'vert 68 Plymouth 'vert Las Vegas, NV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:19:07 -0600 From: "Dave orr" <fe2orr@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: 64-65 Console top - item on eBay in 65 the fury changed from a B-body it then came with the wood grain in the center console as a sport fury Dave o -----Original Message----- From: Dave Casey [mailto:dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:05 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: 64-65 Console top - item on eBay [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. caac48RbV82soa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Didn't see the picture, but the Sport Fury came with a console and often it had a woodgrain decal across the top instead of the ribs. Dave Casey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sutherland" <pluckedchickens@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: 64-65 Console top - item on eBay > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. > caac48RbUYx2xa/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Not the usual "ribbed" design. See attached photo. Has anyone seen this > one before? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your > address. > caac48TbUYx2xf/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > > [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your address. caac48TbV82sof/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:24:47 +0000 From: "Dustin C." <hell_fish_65@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/thomassix65.html Dustin http://www.crcmotorsports.com 65 Barracuda "Commando V8" www.geocities.com/hell_fish_65/ http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/dustinc.html "If it jams force it, if it breaks it needed fixing anyway." >From: Tom Watters <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx, 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:48 -0700 > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm >your address. >caac2N5bWhUNma/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Sherwood, > >Thats what I thought too. This guy looked at me pretty strange when I >told him that I didnt think they came with one, and I couldn't picture >how one would fit anywhere on the dash. He didnt believe me, as he said >he had one. I told him the only dash different than mine that I've seen >is one with a convertible top switch. > >I think the '65 barracuda had the option, but I agree with you that 65 >darts didnt. > > >--Tom >On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:22:35 EST, SherwoodK@xxxxxxx said: > > > > Tom: > > > > The 65 Dart did not have a factory tach. We put a tach in my brother's >65 > > GT > > and attached it to the steering column. > > > > Sherwood Kahlenberg > > >Tom >65 Dart GT 'vert >68 Plymouth 'vert >Las Vegas, NV > >[AD removed for archives] >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. >caac48RbWhUNmf/PermissionData >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- >Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- >directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect >your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content >signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > >'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:42:26 -0700 From: "Tom Watters" <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ??'65 Dart w/Factory Tach?? "and a km/h tachonometer. " That would be a speedometer, I think. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:24:47 +0000, "Dustin Cloud" <hell_fish_65@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/thomassix65.html > > > > > Dustin > http://www.crcmotorsports.com > > 65 Barracuda "Commando V8" > www.geocities.com/hell_fish_65/ > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/dustinc.html Tom 65 Dart GT 'vert 68 Plymouth 'vert Las Vegas, NV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:01:09 -0700 From: rll <rlipinski3@xxxxxxx> Subject: Conversion U-Joints Hello List: Here are some numbers for the conversion of 7260-7290 driveshaft sizes. Its a U-Joint with a large and small cross size to fit big-small yoke/driveshaft sizes. Mancini 5-527X $34.95 NAPA NUJ-240-0369 $29.99 Auto Zone 2-0527 $ 22.99 I've had a couple occasions to use them and trying to get a Checker, (could not do it) or Auto Zone clerk to look it up is a trying experience. I do give the local Auto Zone guy credit, he cross referenced a 92 Dakota and a 65 Satellite and then pulled out a real paper book with pages and found the number. I tried to find these numbers on the 62-65 site but didn't get anywhere. A reflection of my skills not the sites' content. rob lipinski 65 sat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:13:14 -0800 From: "Ben Jr. Morgan" <polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Clutch parts I've had good luck with a Hays street strip performance kit behind my 383 magnum and four speed IN A STATION WAGON! That puts a lot more load on the clutch, and I've had it in there all summer hammering it every chance I can get and I still haven't stripped the disk. Just make sure that you update the adjusting assembly. Mine kept pushing the nut through the cheap washers and I had to go get some fairly thick ones from a hardware store. It does this because the clutch is a lot stiffer than a regular one, to be expected. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Hudson Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:13 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Clutch parts [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac2NQbOlZxua/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Would anyone have any recommendations for a clutch/pressure plate/throwout bearing set? Where to buy? Would be behind a LA motor (either 318 or 340) with a 65 833 transmission going into a 65 Barracuda or Valiant convert. Thanks in advance. Don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. caac48RbOlZxuf/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:16:23 -0800 From: "Ben Jr. Morgan" <polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Poly 318 2x4 I back this up with my 383, I have a single plane super stock legal intake for a single four, and it does indeed have a flat spot until it reaches a couple thousand rpms. To get a really good launch I have to hammer the clutch pretty good. Awesome top end power though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Pavlovich Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:34 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Poly 318 2x4 [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac48QbOlZxua/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul, You will always lose some torque off the line on a single plane intake vs a dual plane but the difference is more or less noticeable depending on your vehicle weight, gear ratio/final drive ratio, convertor, cam profile/HP.. Rule of thumb; if your engine is near stock then the reduction in off-the-line performance/throttle response if more noticeable ("objectionable" is a personal call) with a single plane intake; the more cubic inches/built in torque, larger cam/compression HP, convertor, lower gear ratio/final drive ratio (3.73/3.91 or "lower" like a 4.10) the less noticeable/non-existent the off-the-line difference and the more advantageous the mid and top-end is w/single plane intake on a Poly (the new RPM Airgap designs take the best of both the single plane & dual plane for the LA motors). Gary Pavlovich ----- Original Message ----- From: <Skagdrager@xxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Poly 318 2x4 [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac2NQb7MlEoa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey, Gary P. This raises a question for me. If you put a Weiand single 4bbl on a non-stroked 2bbl poly do you lose some bottom end torque (launches slower)? Thanks. Paul In a message dated 1/19/05 10:10:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, glpavlovich@xxxxxxx writes: free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your address. caac48Tb7vsyza/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom, There are some minor differences between the 56-61 Poly motors, ie. extended crank flange..., but the intakes are all the same and interchange. The difference with your cast iron '59 intake is that the throttle bores (the four carb pad holes) need to be enlarged to accept the larger throttle bore butterflies on the newer Edelbrock, Carter carbs that you will be using. The Weiand #7503 single plane alum. intake will accept these newer carbs w/o modification and though it is a single plane, it will not hurt your "bottom end" with a stroker motor. Why will the Weiand not hurt your bottom end? Because the 4" stroker crank provides plenty of torque, 450+ lbs. with a 402" stroker Poly, and the Weiand single plane intake will perform just fine at all rpm levels; perhaps outperforming the dual plane on the mid and top end because of more plenum volume than the dual plane intake, although I would need to dyno test the OEM cast iron intake to be certain. FYI, the cast iron intake is approx. 53lbs. and the alum. Weiand is approx. 23lbs.; the weigh vs. ET is not relevant in my opinion but getting a hernia while lifting it onto your Poly is a concern! You can use either intake for your stroker and will be pleased. Gary Palvovich [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Like music? Get a CD player on us. 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I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:27:14 -0600 From: "Dave Casey" <dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Clutch parts My brother has a Hays behind his dual quad 440, and if you launch it hard (with street tires no less), it will slip like butter. Dave Casey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Jr. Morgan" <polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx> To: "moparwebsite" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Clutch parts > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. > caac2NQbUYx2xa/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > I've had good luck with a Hays street strip performance kit behind my 383 > magnum and four speed IN A STATION WAGON! That puts a lot more load on the > clutch, and I've had it in there all summer hammering it every chance I > can get and I still haven't stripped the disk. Just make sure that you > update the adjusting assembly. Mine kept pushing the nut through the cheap > washers and I had to go get some fairly thick ones from a hardware store. > It does this because the clutch is a lot stiffer than a regular one, to be > expected. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Hudson > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:13 PM > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Clutch parts > > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. > caac2NQbOlZxua/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Would anyone have any recommendations for a clutch/pressure plate/throwout > bearing set? Where to buy? Would be behind a LA motor (either 318 or > 340) with a 65 833 transmission going into a 65 Barracuda or Valiant > convert. Thanks in advance. > Don > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here. > caac48RbOlZxuf/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [AD removed for archives] > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. > caac48QbUYx2xf/PermissionData > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:05:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 Gary, I believe this is more information than we needed about POR 15. :-) Gary Futrell <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've thought about using POR-15 in my trunk on the Savoy. I imagine it might eliminate any future rust problems. There was a post on another message board a few months ago, where a guy got some POR-15 on his privates. How it got there, I don't want to know, or how he got rid of it. Gary Dennis '04 Ram Hemi --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 Doug, nothing I have ever used or bought off the shelf, compares to POR 15. This stuff is tough, bonds, locks out water and air, the causes of rust. JM2CW. Doug Ahern <D170A833@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've never used POR-15, but I've heard nothing but great things about it. There are alternatives to POR-15, Doug Ahern 63 Dodge 330 SW, 64 Dart 170 Dennis '04 Ram Hemi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:15:07 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The use of por 15 Neal, the more of your emails I read, the more I worry about your stability? LOL. Robert neal zimmerman <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Eastwood also has their own line that of course they claim is superior. As to POR -15 on the private parts, hey whats wrong with that? I use it daily. Neal Zimmerman, Eugene Oregon Dennis '04 Ram Hemi --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------ ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. End of 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx digest, issue 2396 [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your address. caac2N5f/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. 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