OK, I was wrong, I just looked again, the numbers on the radiator support do match the fender tag, with a couple extra numbers thrown in at the beginning, BUT WHERE DID THIS vin NUMBER ON MY TITLE come from, Washington state got the number somewhere when they reconstructed the title and as I said the VIN tag is gone from the A pillar. Neal Zimmeman, Eugene Oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. b7yoMz.