Re: ZDDP Additives

["Steve Mick" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

First , you need to use an oil that meets the requirements  of your own 
application.  Dis- regard for the moment the ZDDP . I do not believe in high 
priced raceing or synthetic oils for the street. My problem with synthetic 
is --leaking thru gaskets. Maybe not a problem on all new gaskets as with a 
fresh build.  Choose your oil and then use a ZDDP additive. ZDDPlus was one 
of the first products offered.  As I understand, you can't have to much 
ZDDP( within reason) It does "wear out" it's effectivness, so higher amounts 
will assure protection till time for your next oil changee.  One of my 
thoughts is to choose an oil that is easily obtained.  and less expensive. 
There always is a possibility that you may need to change oil when you are 
away from your home.  Simply carry a bottle or two of your chosen ZDDP 
additive with you. I have been doing it this way  for  8  years with no 
problem.
 I just talked to a guy that did not know about ZDDP content and continued 
with his same old kind of oil. His camshaft wore out way prematurely, and 
his mechanic told him why it wore the lobes and lifters.  Hard lesson to 
learn...........................MO

{Steve Mick}
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hall, Ricky L" <ricky.l.hall@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: ZDDP Additives


Interesting thanks for the link.  Had no idea so many high ZDDP oils existed 
in this day and age.

Shows my go-to oil Rotella T not the best choice.

Amsoil Z-Rod right up there and indeed a good choice.  Based on this think I 
would go with Valvoline VR1 conventional.  Highly rated and easy to find on 
the shelf.

Especially eye opening results when they added ZDDPlus to oils tested. 
Re-assures my gut feeling that you want to use an oil that is up to the 
task, and not use additives.


-----Original Message-----
From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cam Cutler
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:36 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ZDDP Additives

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35836

-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Ricky L
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:16 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: ZDDP Additives

Would like to know the ppm of zink in Amsoil Z-Rod.  They state "high-zinc"
but not the ppm that I see.



-----Original Message-----
From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary H.
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:41 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ZDDP Additives

It seems that the long term trend is for diesel oils like Rotella is less 
and less  ZDDP. So switching to an oil formulated for tappet cars seems like 
a logical plan. Amsoil’s Z-Rod is one. I think Mobile 1 also still has ZDDP.
There are others.

To open up a can of worms, there is also the argument that using racing oil 
that has ZDDP in it in a street / collector car is also not a good idea.
http://www.cam-shield.com/acatalog/diesel.html has the argument. (Of course 
note this link is from an additive manufacturer.)

Gary H.

>  -------Original Message-------

>  I don't ad zinc additives because I really don't know how much to
> add. I use  Amsol. ...
>  On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:38:08 +0000
>    "Hall, Ricky L"
>  > What brands zinc & phosphorous (ZDDP) additives are you guys using
> >at every oil change, if any?
>  >latest CJ-4 rated Rotella T does still have 1,200+ ppm ZDDP.

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