I converted in 2004, so it's been nine. I'm happy to oblige as a
consultant, though I'm sure a lot of my parts are incorrect
(especially the ones I had to make).
Before you do the swap, you might benefit from my biggest lesson
learned: my car had factory power brakes, but the 4-spd pedals were
for manual brakes and I didn't realize this until I had everything
apart. I eventually used a booster from Master Power to go back to
power brakes, but drove it with manual for a good while.
I've never dug in the parts manual either, so please let me know
what you find. I can tell you from other pictures of that eBay car
that it was originally blue and had been repainted black so there's
no guarantee that handle was original either.
The console automatic shifter was certainly comfortable to drive and
in perfect reach. I was a bit sad to be rid of it - it operated so
smoothly.
Dave Casey
Hey
Dave! It's probably been 10 years since I chatted with you on
here (I took an extended leave). I remember you doing the 4
speed conversion on your Polara.
I guess I should mention that I wouldn't bet the farm
on my pics being 100% accurate. The first picture is
from a '65 Monaco that traded hands a few times online in the
last 10 years. It is supposed to be the only documented '65
Monaco w/ a 426 and a 4 speed. Maybe I put too much faith in
that claim by assuming its shifter is correct. I'll dig out
the 1965 parts book and try to get to the bottom of this
(should have done that in the first place).
It certainly doesn't seem that they had ergonomics in mind
with the shifter shape or location.... but I just gotta have
one!!!
I'm going to bother you for some detail pictures of the
various 4 speed assemblies on your car when I get closer.
Thanks,
Dan Bendixon
1965 Dodge Monaco
From: "Dave Casey"
<dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd. console shifter
I'm inclined to disagree with those pictures. The first one
looks like the non-console version made to fit, the second
looks correct. Here's a picture from a '65 Polara 426/4spd
project car that was on eBay 14 years ago today.
My brother and I each sourced used handles for our
conversions. He found his first and did his '65 Belvedere and
ended up having to modify the handle (either the shifter
bracket was wrong or he actually had a C-body handle).
I did my '65 Polara years later and had to modify as well
(either I have the wrong shift bracket, or I actually had a
B-body handle). The placement in mine is still less than ideal
(have to sit up straight to reach it).
Dave Casey
Hi Mark,
This is the best view I can find
online of the correct C-body piece:
The next picture shows a B-body
shifter (although installed in a C-body here):
Thanks,
Dan
From: chymar01@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:48:56 AM
Subject: Re: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd. console
shifter
I have a couple console shifters, but no idea what
they fit. What does it look like?
Mark
From: "mopardan65" <dbendixon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:08:46 AM
Subject: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd. console
shifter
Hi everyone,
I've been planning to convert/ clone my '65
Monaco to a 4 speed car for years and have most of
the hard parts collected... even the extremely rare
torque shaft (z-bar).
What I lack is the uniquely curved Hurst lever
for use with a floor console, which was a unique
part for C-bodies. I know a B-body Hurst shifter
will work if it has to. The originals are made of a
material that many of us are quite familiar with...
"UNobtanium", which is something like the 114th
element or so :)
Not enough demand for Hurst to re-pop them I
guess. Anyone got one laying around in their
stockpile?
Dan Bendixon
1965 Dodge Monaco
1988 Dodge Dakota
1973 Dodge Dart Sport
2004 Chrysler 300m Sp.Ed.
"I find the thing that runs best in a Chevy is
usually its owner's mouth"
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