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The major cost with a Stroker is custom forged pistons to work with the 
longer 4” crank.  Another expense would be larger valves if you wanted them 
in your ported heads; all other costs are about the same...of course any HP 
engine upgrades will add to the total. Gary Pavlovich 
  
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:09 AM Subject: RE: 64 Plymouths   
EFI 
manifold?   
From: 
1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Richard KinsleySent: Monday, November 26, 2012 
10:30 PM
 To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: 
64 Plymouths
   Yes I currently have the dual 
quads.  However they are on their way out.  They did well for me in 
race mode.  With my original 264 hot street cam they were stretching the 
limits. I do believe a single 4 would've been better for that cam.  However 
this new 284 cam is perfect!  I highly recommend it if you are going for 
max output.  It is even more streetable with the 2x4's than the 264.  
Perfect road manners. 
As far as stroking goes, I 
never considered it as it was just more cost I figured.  I'm sure it would 
bump up the output though.  I bored .040" which gave me 324ci.  I 
think the main expense would be the crank for a stroker.  Probably all 
other components would be similarly priced as stock size.  Depending on how 
radical you go the machine work price could be a bit higher if it needs 
clearancing, etc..   
I am working on installing a 
750 Eddy on my new EFI manifold as an interim measure.  This will be a good 
test to compare the 2x4 set-up with a single 4bbl on the same bottom end.  
I predict it will be a little slower but maybe better mpg???? 
 
Rich Kinsley ;64 Dodge Polara 
LeRoar 4dr 324 poly w/goodies 
  
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote: 
Cool. 
You run the dual quads Correct? How many cubes? I’m planning my rebuild and want 
to find out if it is worth the extra money to build a stroker and run a single 
carb.     I had a best of 9.15 in the 
1/8th which would theoretically be about 14.36 in the 1/4.  My previous 
best on my 264 cam set-up with stock heads was 9.75.  I only had 6 runs on 
the new 284 cam set-up and the last 3 were with a broken tailshaft housing. I 
also had not done any tuning yet as I use the runs to adjust the tune and I need 
some baseline to start with.  I was basically just getting my baseline 
numbers when I broke.  I am positive I would be capable of breaking into 
the high 8's if I pursued it further.  I feel I have accomplished enough of 
my goals at this time.  The Challenger SRT8 that I had raced turned a 9.12 
so I would be right with him now. Time is an issue so I am going to work on my 
next goal of turning LeRoar into a comfy cruiser and i want to hit the mid 20's 
in mpg. I feel that there is more to mpg than money savings. I am also 
interested in distance on a tank. I'm sure the folks in the northeast wish they 
could go farther/longer on a tank of gas! It makes for a comfort zone in the 
middle of the night or when out in the boonies on a Sunday. 
 
Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly 
w/goodies    
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote: 
Do 
you know how fast your car will run the ¼?     There were some very fast candy 
striped Dodge s-wagons running back then.  I think it was some from the 
Ramchargers. 
Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly 
w/goodies 
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM, <dcdriver@xxxxxxx> 
wrote: 
Carl,I 
didn't say that the 4 doors or wagons beat the 2 
doors..      lol  I just said that they not all 
mind you were faster usually the 4 doors and wagons were never seen again when 
the light changed. My 1sy car was a 55 Chebby,never got to run against any 
Mopars but I sure beat alot of Ferds.2nd car was a Ferd and we won't talk about 
that one.3rd car was a brand spankin new 69 Super Bee and I've owned Mopars ever 
since,even had a lil 64 Fury with a stage 3 wedge that kicked some 
tail. 
-----Original 
Message-----From: Carl Sing <hemi64fury@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: 1962to1965mopars <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 
2012 2:43 am
 Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths
 
  
  
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      What are you smoking,from a gezer that was there 
       
        From: dcdriver@xxxxxxx <dcdriver@xxxxxxx>
 Subject: Re: 64 
        Plymouths
 To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date: Monday, 
        November 19, 2012, 9:25 PM
 
        
        WHEN I was young,the 4 
        doors and wagons were usually faster cuz the owners OR drivers {if the 
        cars were owned by a parent} usually lipped off to the 2door owners 
        about how slow their cars were compared to the wagons an 4 
        doors!    :-) 
        -----Original 
        Message-----From: furyus63 <furyus63@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: 1962to1965mopars 
        <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Mon, 
        Nov 19, 2012 3:47 pm
 Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths
 
        
        
        
        
        1. You've been 
        hanging around Rich K. to long. 
        2. If this was 
        true Gary H. would have this posted in Technical 
        Ramblings.. 
        3. The fact of 
        the matter is that Wagons are the fastest... 
        
        
 
        You know that 
        it is a scientific fact that the 4 drs. are faster than the 2 dr. 
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