Re: 1964 Plymouth fender tag

[Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>]

Very interesting Bill.  Thanks for the history.

- Jim
Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
'63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
'63 Polara 500 (383)
'65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
'71 Bronco

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Must remember the build records were not kept for restorers, but the
> owners of the cars when they were new and a few years after.  Parts
> books used to have notes advising dealers to quote the vehicle's
> serial number when ordering interior trim or painted body parts.  The
> parts warehouse people could then ship the correct interior fabrics
> and paint parts the correct colour.
>
> The norm was to keep the build records for about six years as by then
> the mentioned materials were usually all used up.
>
> Chrysler in the US had people like Cliff Lockwood who went around
> collecting and storing historical documents.  Ford of Canada had
> Herman L. Smith and AMC had John Conde.  GM of Canada had a long
> history dating back to the founding of the McLaughlin Carriage Company
> in 1867, so there was some historical background.  Same holds for Ford
> in the U.S., even if Henry Ford I claimed history was bunk.
>
> Not sure how far back GM of Canada build records go, but they have
> nothing before WW II.  Same with Ford of Canada.  Chrysler records are
> gone as the six year period was up long ago.  Studebaker of Canada
> also kept six years records, and the last six years, 1960 to 1966, are
> at the Studebaker Museum in South Bend, IN.  The museum also has
> American records from the mid-1930's to the end of South Bend
> production in December, 1963.
>
> GM of Canada not only has Canadian-built Chevrolet information, but
> also Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Acadian, Beaumont, and GMC.
>
> American Motors Canada apparently kept nothing.  John Conde, head of
> AM Historical in Detroit, once asked Brampton for any historical
> documents.  He received a box of brochures from the previous decade
> and little else.  No build records, no production information.  When
> Hudson of Canada moved its assembly operations from the Chatco Steel
> Products plant in Tilbury, ON, to the Nash plant in Toronto late in
> 1954, the Hudson staff shipped a load of information to Toronto.
> Apparently the Nash staff took one look at it all and had it hauled
> off to the dump.  That attitude seems to have existed through to the
> Chrysler takeover and thus nothing from AM Canada survives.
>
> Bill
> Toronto, ON
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Probably hit or miss on the IBM card.  I've had two done and both came
>> out OK, but one was more clear than the other.  The official write up
>> sheet was valuable to me.  IMHO it's worth doing if you care about the
>> car's history and getting as much documentation as you can. In fact
>> sending the email about this earlier motivated myself and I sent away
>> for one for my 63 Polara 500 (383), which I hadn't gotten around to
>> doing.  I'll let you know what I get and how it looks.  It occurs to
>> me that this service is unique and may not be around forever and is
>> probably worth doing sooner than later if you're planning to do it.
>>
>> As a tangent taboo side note, back in the days before I saw the Mopar
>> light, I had a 72 SS Chevelle that happened to be built in Canada.  GM
>> destroyed all the U.S. records sometime back, but the Canadian records
>> still exist.  If you have an old Chevy that was built in Canada, you
>> can get a similar package which was quite nice to have.
>>
>> - Jim
>> Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
>> '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
>> '63 Polara 500 (383)
>> '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
>> '71 Bronco
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I had mine done years ago and the copy of the IBM punch card was almost
>>> illegilble.  Is that the standard situation or did I just get a careless worker?
>>>
>>> Akron Don Gallimore
>>>
>>>
>
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