RE: Window Crank Handle removal

[62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx]

Rob still has the car.. he hasn't been able to get to it, and says when 
he does get to it, he'll have to replace the lugs because they are 
sandwiched between the hub and the drums ???

I should'a converted to disc brakes when I had the cash to do it ;)
Steve Mick wrote:
> 
> Hay Bob, yes they are  the finned era Mopars, but they have the same 
> type 
> handle attachment.   I have seen the special forked tool sell on e-bay 
> for 
> over $200!
>  How did your brake drum- hub situation turn out?.....................MO
> 
> {Steve Mick}
> http://stevemick1964dodge.shutterfly.com/pictures/5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Window Crank Handle removal
> 
> 
> >
> > Thanks Steve... yeah, I agonized over getting the @#%$ cranks off, so I
> > took pics, for the next guy with the @#%$ window cranks ;)
> >
> > Are you talking about forwardlook.net/forums ?  I thought they were a
> > pre-62 group?
> > Steve Mick wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Bob , that is great little "how to"  I have been trying to describe
> >> this
> >> , but without someone seeing what the clip looks like, it is hard to do.
> >>
> >>  Could you post this on the "Forwardlook " site? Probably under the "Body
> >>
> >> paint interior"  Why didn't the service nanual show these
> >> pics??....................MO
> >>
> >> {Steve Mick}
> >> http://stevemick1964dodge.shutterfly.com/pictures/5
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:13 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Window Crank Handle removal
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I had the same issue about 2 years ago.. I took pictures of the tool I
> >> > fashioned from the adivce given by the guys here :)
> >> >
> >> > http://omaha.timelesstransport.com/remove-60s-mopar-window-crank-regulator/
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tony Mokomoko wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep - know the ones you are talking about, and that's what I was
> >> >> expecting -
> >> >> but these had nothing to remove. Basically it has a spring clip with a
> >> >> square hole, the same size as the window crank shaft, and the same 
> >> >> size
> >> >> as
> >> >> the square hole in the cranks. However where the spring clip attaches 
> >> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> window crank handle - the two holes (the spring clip & the handle) are
> >> >> offset/overlap. As a result when pushed onto the crank are, the spring
> >> >> clip
> >> >> is compressed until it slips over the groove in the crank arm. As a
> >> >> result
> >> >> the spring clip is wedged there - and was different to anything else I
> >> >> had
> >> >> removed. But now I know - all is good. In actual fact, without the
> >> >> factory
> >> >> tool - you almost need three hands. Anyway, thanks to everyone who
> >> >> offered
> >> >> advice. My next mission is removing the bright work from the doors and
> >> >> fenders without damaging it. Any secrets appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony
> >> >> Gold Coast
> >> >> Australia
> >> >> 62 Dodge Phoenix
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Jeff Adams [mailto:ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >> Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 11:03 PM
> >> >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: RE: Window Crank Handle removal
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've never had an earlier Mopar than 64, but if the clips are the same
> >> >> type that GM used in the 60's and 70's, what I always did was take a
> >> >> long finish nail, bend about 1/4" of the point over 90 degrees, then 
> >> >> put
> >> >>
> >> >> a lesser bend in halfway down to get a better angle, then hold the end
> >> >> with a pliers or vicegrip, push the door panel in, hook the point of 
> >> >> the
> >> >>
> >> >> nail in the clip and pull it off. Load the clip in the handle then 
> >> >> push
> >> >> the handle back on when you're done. The shaft should be beveled on 
> >> >> the
> >> >> end so the clip will slide over it.
> >> >> Tony Mokomoko wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks Guys - all good info. It was a bit of a mission, but got them
> >> >> > off
> >> >> > with a bit of grunting and pulling. Probably what was making it 
> >> >> > harder
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > move was nearly 50 years of dust, rust, and just crap between the
> >> >> > mating
> >> >> > surfaces. I was pleased to see how easy the internal doors handles 
> >> >> > came
> >> >> > off
> >> >> > - a small cap and a nut ... too easy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Back seat is out now as well. Isn't getting all that trim off fun 
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> > not !!
> >> >> > No seriously, it is just a patience game. Touch wood, nothing bent 
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > far -
> >> >> > well apart front that which was already marked, but I have added non
> >> >> > further
> >> >> > damage.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks ... Tony
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: MO ( Steve Mick) [mailto:micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >> > Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 5:32 PM
> >> >> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Window Crank Handle removal
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  I use a table knife with about 1/8" of the tip bent to a 90 degree
> >> >> > right
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > angle.  That tip is used to push the tab on the spring clip. The 
> >> >> > sring
> >> >> > clip
> >> >> > when released does not come off the door handle. . Flat thin knife 
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > sharp edges to tear upholstery.  If you could see that a 62- earlier
> >> >> > handle
> >> >> > looks like on the inside, you would see how they
> >> >> > work...................MO
> >> >> > {Steve Mick}
> >> >> > http://stevemick1964dodge.shutterfly.com/pictures/5
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "Roger Pettigrew" <dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
> >> >> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 3:54 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Window Crank Handle removal
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Sorry for misleading you,,,,, I thought that 62 was the change 
> >> >> > > over
> >> >> > > year
> >> >> > > from the spring clips to the screw,,,, but it must have been
> >> >> > > 63,,,,,,,
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > tools  are not expensive, you can do a search of ebay or even try
> >> >> > > your
> >> >> > > local
> >> >> > > supply  house,,,,, just put in,  door handle tool, and it will 
> >> >> > > bring
> >> >> > > up
> >> >> > > various type of them, and as was explained you can use most any 
> >> >> > > flat
> >> >> > > tool
> >> >> > > such
> >> >> > > as kitchen items (spatula) screwdrivers, hacksaw blades,,,,,,, 
> >> >> > > after
> >> >> > > you
> >> >> > > get  your first one off, the rest will be easier as you see how 
> >> >> > > they
> >> >> > > work
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > In a message dated 5/1/2011 10:34:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> >> > > thepulpitmaster@xxxxxxx writes:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If I remember right, all you need is a hacksaw blade.   You will 
> >> >> > > have
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > push the door panel into the door, slide the blade  between the
> >> >> > > handle
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > door panel until it lays on top of the U  shaped pin  holding the
> >> >> > > handle
> >> >> > > on.  It is tricky and may  take you some time, but it works.  You
> >> >> > > need
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > use
> >> >> > > the saw part  as a pushing tool to lock onto the U pin and push it
> >> >> > > off.
> >> >> > > It
> >> >> > > would be so much easier if I could explain it in better terms, or 
> >> >> > > if
> >> >> > > I
> >> >> > > could send you better instructions, but I can't.  Just keep 
> >> >> > > working
> >> >> > > it
> >> >> > > until
> >> >> > > one comes off, then the others will be easier.  You  are correct 
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > seat.
> >> >> > > You need to push it from front to  back and lift at the same 
> >> >> > > time,
> >> >> > > it
> >> >> > > will
> >> >> > > come out very easily.   Have done both of these projects many 
> >> >> > > times.
> >> >> > > Once
> >> >> > > you got it,  you will never forget how easy they are for  removal.
> >> >> > > Now,
> >> >> > > when
> >> >> > > you are ready to put the door panels back on and attach  the door
> >> >> > > handles,
> >> >> > > you put the U pin all the way onto the handles.  Line   them up 
> >> >> > > with
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > crank
> >> >> > > mechanism and tap on with a rubber mallet, may take  a  good hard
> >> >> > > tap,
> >> >> > > but
> >> >> > > it will go on and lock securely
> >> >> > > You know  where to turn if you need help, we are here for you
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Dayv in  Milwaukee.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > In a message dated 5/1/2011 8:21:30 A.M. Central  Daylight Time,
> >> >> > > anthony.mokomoko@xxxxxxxxxxx  writes:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hi  Guys,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I'm stripping my '62 Dodge Phoenix  (same a 4 door Dart) so it is
> >> >> > > ready
> >> >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > for
> >> >> > > paint. However, I am stuck -  can someone advise the easiest way 
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > remove
> >> >> > > the window crank  handles?? I have a Dart, Lancer & Polara 
> >> >> > > workshop
> >> >> > > manual
> >> >> > > ... but  it refers to a special tool. Is there another way  of
> >> >> > > getting
> >> >> > > them
> >> >> > > off  without this tool so that I can remove the door panels,  etc. 
> >> >> > > As
> >> >> > > you
> >> >> > > can
> >> >> > > imagine special tools would be rare here in the land down   under.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Additionally, I need instructions on removing the back  seat 
> >> >> > > base.
> >> >> > > I'm
> >> >> > > guessing it needs a good thump along the front of the  base, and
> >> >> > > lifting
> >> >> > > at
> >> >> > > the same time.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I look forward to the  responses from those  who have tackled 
> >> >> > > these
> >> >> > > tasks
> >> >> > > in
> >> >> > > the  past.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Tony
> >> >> > > Gold  Coast
> >> >> > > Australia
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > > Please address private mail --   mail of interest to only one
> >> >> > > person -- 
> >> >> > > directly to that person.   I.e.,  send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> > > negotiations as
> >> >> > > well as other  personal  messages only to the intended recipient, 
> >> >> > > not
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > Clubhouse public address.  This practice will protect your 
> >> >> > > privacy,
> >> >> > > reduce
> >> >> > > the total volume of mail and  fine tune the content signal to 
> >> >> > > Mopar
> >> >> > > topic.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 1962 to 1965  Mopar Clubhouse  Discussion   Guidelines:
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to  only one
> >> >> > > person -- 
> >> >> > > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car  transactions and
> >> >> > > negotiations as
> >> >> > > well as other personal messages only to the  intended recipient, 
> >> >> > > not
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > Clubhouse public address. This practice will  protect your 
> >> >> > > privacy,
> >> >> > > reduce
> >> >> > > the total volume of mail and fine tune the  content signal to 
> >> >> > > Mopar
> >> >> > > topic.
> >> >> > > Thanks!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar  Clubhouse Discussion  Guidelines:
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one 
> >> >> > > person --
> >> >> > > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> > > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the 
> >> >> > > intended
> >> >> > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> >> >> > > protect
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> >> >> > > content
> >> >> > > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----
> >> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one 
> >> >> > person --
> >> >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> > negotiations
> >> >> > as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, 
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your 
> >> >> > privacy,
> >> >> > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to
> >> >> > Mopar
> >> >> > topic.  Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff Adams
> >> >> 64 Polara
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----
> >> >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> >> >> directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> negotiations
> >> >> as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not
> >> >> to
> >> >> the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy,
> >> >> reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to
> >> >> Mopar
> >> >> topic.  Thanks!
> >> >>
> >> >> 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended
> >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> >> > protect
> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content
> >> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --  
> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and 
> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended 
> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will 
> > protect 
> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content 
> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >
> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and 
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >
> > 
> 


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.